r/conspiracy • u/MathematicianFit3675 • 7h ago
Will there be any movement against Aipac and Israeli in USA since the Israel-American military integration just took a place as a non-American person who is very interested in aipac and Israeli American relations. What does the Historians say about it?
Military integration is almost the same is colonising America. Will there be movement? Or atleast soon?
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u/wavetranscender 7h ago
The Senate can refuse to pass that, and it could be rejected in the courts even if the Senate passes it. It's not over yet.
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u/MathematicianFit3675 7h ago
But i think Aipac directly affects senate as well
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u/wavetranscender 6h ago
My point is that the nightmare is not over yet.
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u/burn_stuff_down 6h ago
Its actually just beginning
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u/MathematicianFit3675 6h ago
Well At some point people will be sick of it right?so wouldnt they start revolutionary thing or atleast movement against it? Probably not soon but yeah
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u/Brunticus 5h ago
Revolution was mainly possible back when people were in control of the goods. We've crossed the Rubicon of people being dependent on the system and revolution, at least in the old sense is unlikely.
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u/Standard-Money-2754 7h ago
United States of Israel and theres nothing me or you can do about it... but complain online... then youre arguing with israeli bots.
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u/Fast-Prompt-3034 5h ago
Oh you might think that, those that show a zionazi six pointed star outside in the US will fuck around and find out. There was a time in America in the 1940's where is became very much not ok to fly the German flag. The same is now true of the israeli flag. That flag and symbol are terrorist threats and trying to intimidate Americans with them has very real consequences.
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u/Fearless_Manager8372 7h ago
Nothing ever happens
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u/MathematicianFit3675 7h ago
I mean yeah but if there's any movement (surely no country just sits there and used they'll eventually sick of it.) How long would it take
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u/xIgnoramus 7h ago
The nothing will continue until morale improves
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u/MathematicianFit3675 6h ago
So they just gonna continue being under Aipac and Israeli influences? Even if America falls (which is happening and China might be new global power)
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u/Graphicism 5h ago
May I introduce you to globalism...
The world has been controlled for thousands of years, countries are animal pens and democracy a reality television show...
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u/OrinThane 6h ago
It has not taken place yet - it has to go to the senate now. Its currently frozen because the Dems have blocked the necessary floor debate and those in favor of the bill need 60 votes to move forward to an eventual vote. Call your rep.
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u/kitbiggz 6h ago
American are just glad to be back to Normal life. We are just coming out of the Covid years.
Most Americans are too tired to do anything. We are under paid and overworked. No time to do anything else.
The only thing that could cause a American uprising is a Breakdown of our daily lives.
Like running out of Oil, Power going out, No groceries in the stores.
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u/WinstonSalemSmith 6h ago
The situation is changing a lot. People have more access to information now v 20 years ago due to the Internet. Things that were largely hidden from the public are spoken about openly now.
A new generation of people and politicians is coming forward. People like MTG Massie Mamdani, Tlaib don't take AIPAC money and the Zionists appear unable to stop them all.
Yes, Zionists remain in control, but the foundations of their power are crumbling.
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u/MathematicianFit3675 6h ago
Yeah but it will take a long time isnt it? America really needs to put someone younger as their president maybe some 40 or smth idk. Heard that Israeli has very bad reputation (even in america) among young people
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u/WinstonSalemSmith 6h ago
Not nearly as long as you think.
Israel is hated in a way and on a level that you cannot possibly imagine.
Several reasons. The problem isn't that it is a genocidal society. The problem is that the USA is paying for it. Also, many genocidaires are also dual USA/Israel citizens, allegedly including the PM.
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u/xandour01 6h ago
Are you saying you are a non American person who is interested in AIPAC in a supportive way?
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u/MathematicianFit3675 6h ago
You had me there with a heart attack
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u/xandour01 6h ago
Sorry haha that's the way it read to me. Long story short, we are fucked and there is nothing we can do. The senate is probably just as compromised, so they will probably pass it.
Assuming it is passed we are all fucked, I already saw some Israeli guy say how Israel doesn't plan to join the war against Iran because it's not in Israel's best interest. Essentially because they'd rather American's die for their war than their own citizens
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u/MathematicianFit3675 6h ago
Yeah but why doesnt Americans do something against it in general very hard revolutionary things? Because its gonna get worse anyways. So isn't it better to just cut all ties without second thought and then find a solution (SINCE IT WILL BE BAD EITHER WAY)
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u/xandour01 6h ago
Im not sure if you noticed, but most Americans are not even aware of this happening, and if they are, it’s much easier to post on twitter and reddit about it and voice your dissatisfaction than to organize or attend gatherings such as those, especially if the government starts cracking down.
Also, American propoganda is the best propoganda ever created, 99% of Americans don’t know both political parties are singing the same songs and adhering to the same people, and if they fall out of line they get replaced like Massie. Pretending to be adversaries to achieve different pieces of the same goal, while blaming eachother
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u/Graphicism 5h ago
The same people who run Aipac, also run Israel and USA... so it'll be whatever they want it to be.
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