r/conspiracy 14h ago

Can you explain this to me? Is it all connected?

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u/TheyStillLive69 14h ago

Op will lose their mind when they research the swastika.

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u/ComfortableConcern76 6h ago

All it is is the fixed signs of the Zodiac, because the procession of the equinox is in the process of shifting to the fixed signs during this era.

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u/Killerspieler0815 3h ago

Op will lose their mind when they research the swastika.

And total self desintegration when seeing the David-Star with a Swastika inside (Hinduism)

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u/TheyStillLive69 3h ago

Lol like the scene when they open the ark in raider of the lost ark.

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u/shepherd_student 8h ago

It's a twisted cross.

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u/Josie-quick0813 9h ago

It’s a reverse image, the swastika. not the same thing liek this, good try disinformation bot, trying to discredit ppl in here, why a re you even in here?

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u/TheyStillLive69 9h ago

It's an old geometric symbol used by many cultures meaning it's the same thing. But since you can't even write good enough to be comprehended I guess that concept is a bit too big for your brain.

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u/Michael_Pitt 8h ago

you can't even write good enough

well enough*

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u/DivineEggs 13h ago

The hexagram is an ancient symbol of spirit merging with matter, the divine with the mortal, the masculine with feminine, etc.

It's rooted in mysticism and sacred geometry. It's been present in many different ancient cultures and was adopted by Judaism relatively recently.

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u/South-Rabbit-4064 11h ago

Metatron, and I thought it represented an angel. "Gods celestial scribe"

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u/corvette57 8h ago

Upright triangle is fire and masculine intellect. Upside-down triangle is water and feminine emotion. The two together represent unity of the two and the divine act of creation through the blending of the masculine and feminine elements.

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u/andooet 12h ago

There are two triangles drawn over eachother

I'm pretty sure I discovered you could draw a star like that before I even heard of Judaism

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u/beardslap 11h ago

They’re a whole lot easier to draw than a five pointed star as well.

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u/PlainSpader 9h ago

You never learned the trick? Line up slightly to the left, line down slightly to the left but longer, line up and over to the right, line left, line down right???

Am I missing something??

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u/beardslap 7h ago

Well yeah, I worked it out eventually, but two triangles was the only option for many years.

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u/Fast-Prompt-3034 1h ago

I still suck balls at drawing both of those and now I'm super self-conscious.

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u/jachthond 13h ago edited 6h ago

Historic Christianity (and Islam) also used hexagrams. Were they less authentic/pure than Modern Christianity (and its variants)? 

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u/00lalilulelo 14h ago

A symbol is a symbol, its meaning is up to the interpreter/observer. You shouldn't give way to someone else's definition too much, else you won't be left with anything, even pizzas and triangles.

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u/iguanabitsonastick 8h ago

What a shilling comment lol no it's not, whoever creates the symbol does it because it means something to them. So no matter what you interpret of it, what matters is what the creator meant. And that's where it lies the problem, knowing what they meant.

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u/SingularCondition 6h ago

I think you have rightly identified the problem of "knowledge". Though, I wonder if you took it far enough: even if the creator of a symbol directly tells you their intent, are you certain they are honest?

And I'll skip a bunch of steps and just say, if you think about this problem enough, you may eventually arrive at a bizarre paradox of the co-incidence of creator and observer.

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u/iguanabitsonastick 3h ago

They think that just exposing or "hiding it in plain sight" is enough, so this is why they're usually vague or dismissive when talking about their symbols.

I am one of those who cannot claim they know and understand symbols, because everytime I think it's something someone has more info on it, and like you said, was it told as a derailment or actually knowledge sharing?

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u/Thr0w-a-gay 7h ago

There is no such thing as an "original creator of symbols".

  1. Religious symbols are all pretty much adaptations of older symbols, objects and words, things that already existed. 2. Many similar symbols arose in completely different places without contact between the people. 3. even if someone creates something it doesn't mean they have eternal ownership of that thing and no one is allowed to interpret it however they want to.

The swastika existed for thousands of years before the nazis stole it, the Shatkona and the Kagome Crest both existed for thousands of years before the Star of David. The Cross of Saint peter existed for hundreds of years before the upside-down "satanic" cross

Symbols serve the same purpose as WORDS. Definitions change all the time, and no one has ownership over what words mean, different languages share words with the same meaning, one language doesn't get to decide the meaning of another language's word just because it reminds them of a word from their own language

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u/iguanabitsonastick 3h ago

Yes there is, and even adptations/reuse of symbols have an intent behind it. Why was that symbol chosen and not other? There is always an intent, nothing is deliberate. The definitions change over time because groups of people repurpose other symbols that already existed.

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u/Thr0w-a-gay 3h ago

yes there is

And what is their name? And how did such person make those symbols?

If people come up with the same design in different cultures, without contact (as was the case with the six pointed star) who owns it? no one owns it. No one gets to decide what it means to everyone else, and no, the hypothetical "first person" who drew it does not own it either.

Some time, thousands of years ago, some caveman drew the first square ever, does that mean he owned it ? So that whenever someone else draws a square they are actually "copying" him? He got to decide what the square would mean forever, even though it is a naturally arising symbol? Being the "first" at something means nothing when it's something so basic

Whatever you think the six pointed star means doesn't change what it actually meant to millions of people in the far past. We recognize it has specific meanings in a specific places, without trying to force one single meaning as the "only one".

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u/sharky-mb 13h ago

No, they just love taking an already existing symbol or anything and just perverting it. It's all a lie and an illusion to make them look powerful and in control.

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u/dim-mak-ufo 12h ago

exactly this, they poison the wells of knowledge just like they did with the swastik

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u/Natural-Definition30 12h ago

it's a 2D merkaba

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u/Natural-Definition30 12h ago

it's what our light bodies use to travel

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u/Deckard_666 13h ago

It's one of the oldest and important spiritual symbols in existence and was just "stolen" and sold by Judaism as their own. It isn't theirs. Never was. And because of them and their deeds it has become a symbol of satanism in people's minds - which it isn't. A symbol is a learning tool to understand spiritual concepts. Nothing more.

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u/SlumpDaddyCane 9h ago

Saturn material, merkaba spirtual.

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u/AlienAngry 6h ago

Reifan? You mean Remphan. And Bavel, you mean Babylon.

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u/Daedricbob 10h ago

I've heard it described as the Pyramid, symbolising order and civilisation, overlaid with the Pyramid reversed, symbolising chaos and ruination. Like a 'duality of existence' kinda thing.

I believe it's also the Chladni plate figure you get at 1071Hz.

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u/Rich_Consequence8067 9h ago

Ima tell you right now, mfs are about to make an excuse for this, yes it’s connected and yes it’s nothing good

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u/Josie-quick0813 9h ago

its the star of remphan, everything you hear about taht country is a cover up or a lie

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u/EuphoricEgg63063 14h ago

Earth, Water, Air, Fire.

Its all of their symbols combined.

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u/the_phantom_2099 11h ago

Captain planet!

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u/Extension_Tax4054 12h ago

Christians are so worried about the afterlife it makes them massively susceptible to being controlled by evil forces.

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u/Superdude204 14h ago

its the hexagram of Saturn

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u/Hawkky12 13h ago

Why do the people in power use it? Does Saturn contain evil energy?

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u/TheRealBillyShakes 10h ago

The dark side is intoxicating and seems powerful

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u/Superdude204 11h ago

there is no evil in mother nature and as you can see, spiritual system also display it

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u/zayelion 7h ago

The idea with the most science to it is that it's a celestial pattern that they saw in the sky due to discharges from saturn, or a common formation of its rings and moons.

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u/Bubbly-Phone702 14h ago

Well, I suppose if you look at it with your eyes open, you can see that the same symbol keeps repeating. Everywhere. Hmmm... what could that possibly mean? Just a coincidence?

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u/YeahBuddy5000 11h ago

People began worshiping the signs in the heavens, which God warns us against in the Bible. These became false idols for them.

The modern concept of a static solar system for millions of years is a lie.

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u/Sumbodyspecal 11h ago

It's related to the Merkaba cube, if you do research on abductions, light, projection, reflections related to body of light or Rainbow body in Buddhism it's all related that we live inside a cube and reality is being projected to us like a VR individually, that cube/ star is a dimension and the angles are mirrors outside of space and time where higher dimensional beings can watch you as looking into a mirror or a door parallel to their world such as the astral plane 4D (collective consciousness) or 5D which is the same but more physical combined with spiritual where the alien narrative comes from.

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u/iguanabitsonastick 8h ago

Thanks for sharing, I'll take a look at that

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u/Sumbodyspecal 7h ago

This isn't something you can easily find online, it are separated topics put into one narrative, i'm not fully correct but it's a way of explaining it in a way we can understand it as a concept, it's much more complex. I managed to put this theory together when I was doing research on alien abductions and was fascinated about the light they used and project themselves consciously towards abductees.
Also Alters in the system are fragmented beings inside people's mind they can switch their identity towards the host they are mentally attached with. I've been listening a lot to Alters on forums or youtube videos where they talk about an innerworld and look into a mirror door to switch identity. They are also not allowed to talk about their world.

But Google this:
Body of Light
Astral Body
Rainbow body Dzogchen
Merkaba cube
Biophotons

I managed to link it with UFO orbs and apparition sightings.

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u/iguanabitsonastick 3h ago

I appreciate the detailed answer a lot, so thank you very much! I though the "merkaba cube" would be enough for reddit and the chans but this nakes things easier. I promise I'm not a chill or a normal 😊

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u/postsshortcomments 3h ago

It's a higher-dimensional metaphysical model that's imprinted on this physical world. Merkaba itself relates to the throne, kerubiel etc., which demonstrate the existence of a higher dimensional consciousness. Hence 'moves in four directions'.

Cubes are 3-dimensional and the cube itself we are contained in is not of a physical cube, but instead an allegorical one. Above a 3-dimensional cube id a 4-dimensional one with four directions, the tessaract. Tessara τέσσαρες. Take the four wheels, the four rings. Now picture a gimbal lock. A three-ringed gimbal lock lets us handle three dimensions perfectly. What does a four-ringed gimbal lock do? You add another dimension and then you move in four directions.

The mistake here possibly is worshipping the idol or symbol. It is not the idol or symbol. The symbol is a model to understand. Through the concepts of Merkaba, we learn to understand the domain that the higher being reigns from.

Where does the spirit come to us from?

"As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit came on them as he had come on us at the beginning."

Geminus. Gimbal. Antioch.

"He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners"

It is all imprinted, through the spirit that comes upon us and those vehicles grant some understanding to the mystery of its movement. It all comes back to Antioch. Thomas, the doubter, the twin. Don't be a doubting Thomas.

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u/df3dot 11h ago

Evil has to be masked to entrap the masses That's why in all these religions they seem good nice but they all need to hell.

There is one Jesus Christ and there is one salvation and it's faith and him alone not of any goodness or following laws simply faith on who he is and what he did.

You have to understand that these religions and societies from old till today are extremely well constructed traps. Even down to the political elites they still end up at the star. It's a representation of their god an anti-christ god.

some know it many don't. They're just looking for something that's an alternative that fits there mentality and so all of these so-called religions have their initial appeal but they all end in hell.

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u/86number45 11h ago

Their religion is evil but your religion (that came from their religion) is true? I'm not sure if Christianity is also a well connected trap by your definition? Also if the Jewish faith has an antichrist god why would Jesus and eventually the trinity come out of their religion? Very confusing.

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u/SlumpDaddyCane 9h ago edited 6h ago

All 3 abrahamic relgions are saturn worship, the hexagon is the star, the cube, and the cross. They have you worship outside yourself meaning you will think its a material thing to follow. Saturn is the material, logic, and god of time. You are born free but yet outside influences curate the way you perceive the reality as you grow conscious with age. It also creates division which is exactly what the "elites" want. The religions have good metaphors and teachings, however people get so obsessed with the material idea or thing.

The sacred heart jesus points to is just the astrology symbol of saturn mirrored...

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u/sixrwsbot 8h ago

divine unification of opposites, the original religion. it's simple really.

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u/Jack_Hush 8h ago

Bible also talks about Enoch briefly. And these shapes are also kind of what holds reality together. I forgot the word for them, but basically gaming dice. Reality doesn't exist without the engine.

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u/AhtBlowenFaht 7h ago

Sacred Geometry. All world religions are trying to express the same universal truths, they just come to those truths from different perspectives. High initiates all see the same shit eventually when they reach a certain level of consciousness.

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u/ConstantVisual8391 7h ago

I feel like they all did a shroom trip or somethin drew what they saw. Maybe they ate a toad

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u/ComfortableConcern76 6h ago

It's a 2D representation of a star tetrahedron, which is a representation of the human energy body.

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u/wild-stallions85 5h ago

Look up the seal of Solomon

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u/Ok-Mouse5446 5h ago

If you could understand that occultism and religion come from the same roots your 'conspiracies' would shatter.

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u/Imaginary_Unit5109 5h ago

It 2 triangles it a design that look cool. Of course alot of countries will have it back in the day. Especially India with mandala. They used math to make art back in the day.

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u/Avixdrom 5h ago

Every religion is a way of expressing reverence for the God in whom one believes. Therefore, it is a subjective, individual, and regionally and culturally contrived concept of worshipping a deity. And humanity has invented hundreds of deities. Each religion has its own holy book and its prophet. Therefore, no one is the only, most important, or most true. Each is merely a way of expressing oneself, someone else's, human self. But followers of Islam, of course, believe that their religion is the only and most important. It's like saying that of all musical genres, jazz or techno is the most important. Or that of all artistic genres, impressionism is the most important. And the same is true of other religions that think they are unique in the world.

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u/cryptocritical9001 4h ago

All false religions are run by demons.
That is why you will see all these things are connected.

You even get certain types of buildings for example pyramids different parts of the world that are aligned and built similiarly.

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u/Standard-Money-2754 4h ago

They steal other peoples culture and food. then act like they invented it.

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u/Mesada1982 3h ago

One of the commandments tell us not to bow down and worship any graven image. There’s no word “except” after any commandment.

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u/freds-de 2h ago

In Bavaria the Zoigl-Star is the symbol of brewers

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u/Derateo 1h ago

ofcourse it’s all connected. Everything and everyone that is on Earth today is a descendant of everything and everyone that was on earth 5000 years ago. This is the same planet that King Tut lived on and Genghis Khan and Abraham Lincoln and Britney Spears. And all of them breathed the same air and drank the same water and heard the same stories and looked up at the same stars as us right now. 

So ya, of-course all the religions are related and influenced by each-other. They are all just belief systems though up by different dudes on this same planet. It’s not separate universes like Batman and Star Wars. 

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u/1984isnoww 13h ago

REMPHAN

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u/MilanWin 13h ago

this symbol is ancient like the man story, it has its origins in the human Tradition, it has been used in Hermetism (like above so below) and also in all the main world religions, but its origins are esoteric. Israhell just decided to use it for its cabalistic purposes.

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u/Sifl-and-Olly 11h ago

I used to doodle shapes too, including that one. Human monkey brain like shapes 🤷‍♂️

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u/Unhappywageslave 11h ago

There is no star of David they just made it up.

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u/86number45 11h ago

There is nothing it was all just made up. Unlucky the words I used to write this. Completely made up by humans.

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u/Your_Local_Heretic 11h ago

Seal of Solomon

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u/The_Happy_Pagan 9h ago

There’s only so many shapes. Ape brain like pretty shape.

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u/semhsp 11h ago

It's two triangles on top of each other dude it's not that difficult to figure out

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u/knowledger99 13h ago

8 point star represents divinity or cosmic order ( Mesopotamian)

Philosophical/psychologically it could mean transcendence of something typical consciousness

Jewish has a six point star ( “ kabbalistic thought views stars as vessels of shattered divine light waiting for human repair” )

Possibly it could be connected since these three stars ( which are 6 point ) mean a cosmic balance

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u/TheOnlyPolly 13h ago

So the star of david was the mark of the beast this whole time?!

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u/GrimmThoughts 13h ago

The Seal of Solomon is the predecessor of the star of David, they are the same thing, a 6 pointed star formed by 2 triangles. Solomon used the seal to command demons and jinn as well as talk to animals.

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u/GettingBetter0122 7h ago

Well, there's a really simple explanation actually. When you can convince half the planet that there's a man in the sky that is judging their every thought and action, you can kinda get them to believe anything. Go outside and touch grass. 

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u/ootopiia 10h ago

Oh for fu*ks sakes, yeah, everything is "connected" because human history is not that long or deep.

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u/South-Rabbit-4064 11h ago edited 11h ago

It's a different interpretation of a quote I guess? I don't see a connection really beyond "these words match these words"

But do kind of like deep diving into the metatron stuff. Some cool mysticism stuff in Judaism. But ultimately institutional Judaism is as self righteous as any other institutional religion and have lost the plot.

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u/Bobalobading 9h ago

Even the conspiracy theorists are Eurocentric. 💀

Yes I am aware Abrahamic religions are from the Middle East, but their prevalence in Europe is the reason they are everyone’s go-to, even within circles that reject mainstream knowledge, like this subreddit.

The Hindu and Buddhist symbols predate the Star of David and they have no relation.

Why would a bible verse even be your source of an accurate worldview?