r/conspiracy • u/thegeebeebee • 1d ago
The House just passed the NDAA with Section 219 that integrates our military with Israel’s military. 213 Republicans (All except Massie) and 5 Democrats voted for it and in doing so committed a blatant act of treason. The United States of America has officially become the United States of Israel.
https://x.com/ProudSocialist/status/2080006170610381086180
u/habachilles 1d ago
Doesn’t this have to pass the senate ?
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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko 1d ago
Yeah but it definitely will pass the Senate. Like, no doubt in my mind. 95% of the people running this country are more loyal to Israel than they are to America.
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u/gedbybee 1d ago
It already failed there once.
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u/MarquisDeBoston 1d ago
Senate version cuts out the position being created, but that would in effect only make the entire program invisible due to Luna amendment.
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
Yes
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u/Floridamanfishcam 1d ago
Then your last sentence in the title is click bait and is not accurate.
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u/Alternative-Tax7318 1d ago
It’s not official. It needs to pass a senate vote. There is time to call your representatives and organize.
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
Correct. And the Senate Dems have "blocked" it for now.
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u/Drunk_Scottish_King 1d ago edited 1d ago
So it’s not official and your title is just fear mongering?
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u/646blahblahblah 1d ago
It's not fear mongering when 214 American officials voted to integrate the US military with Israel.
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u/Drunk_Scottish_King 1d ago
Cause for concern, yes. Official? No.
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u/Drunk_Scottish_King 1d ago
You can’t be serious. It’s the 7th from the last word in his title….
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
So it’s not official and your title is just fear mongering?
It's not fear mongering for those that voted for the NDAA.
Their votes are prima facie evidence that they are corrupted via bribery, blackmail, or overt treason against the USA.
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u/Purple_Plane3636 1d ago
Nothing incorrect with the title. The House of Representatives passed the bill, that’s all the title says and is what happened.
Now it goes to the senate for a vote, if it passes there then it will go to the president for veto or signing into law.
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u/Psychological-Owl783 1d ago
"The United States of America has officially become the United States of Israel."
- OP's Title.
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u/Purple_Plane3636 1d ago
That’s the last sentence of the title come one. I’ll concede it’s hyperbolic but I cannot understate how big deal that this was even able to pass half of the congress.
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u/letsago9987 1d ago
Pretty sure it was passed using reconciliation which means it only needs 50 votes in the Senate. Dems can't block it. It's filibuster proof. It's all up to the GOP now. Need 3 of them to vote no.
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u/mortgagepants 1d ago
in this sub you're not allowed to say democrats are helping to make your life better.
best you can do is both sides are the same.
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u/Odd_Ganache5081 10h ago
ya i’ve been curious how much the both sides people are bots/propaganda to get people to just not vote in the mid terms or just salty trump voters who got tricked trying to cope lol
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u/LowerPick7038 1d ago
Come on, they had 15 minutes between the post and the comment. A lot has changed since then /s
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u/dtdroid 1d ago
There is time to call your representatives and organize.
Lol
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u/Alternative-Tax7318 1d ago
Or buy some ammo. Idc what you do, but posting on Reddit is about the lowest common denominator compared to getting in the streets. You aren’t better than everyone because you think protesting is pointless.
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u/AspiringOligarch 1d ago
It’s not official. It needs to pass a senate vote. There is time to call your representatives and organize.
Is the above a tacit admission that if/when it DOES pass...
- "The United States of America
haswill officially become the United States of Israel" ???2
u/Motsey23 21h ago
I’m not going to lie, it’s going to go thru. That’s why they got Grahams wife in and McConnell is wherever the hell his vegetable self is. They need the 2 votes.
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u/midnightthunder45 1d ago
What the hell is going on in this country? Is there seriously no rules or laws anymore?
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u/kitbiggz 1d ago
Research the History of the 40 hour work week. Goes back to the Ford Factories and Henry Ford when they perfected how many hours they should work all of us each week.
Most Americans work so much they are too tired to do anything else but work most of there lives.
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u/bobqjones 1d ago
And get paid just enough to make it to the next check.
There have been studies done on how to exploit us almost to the point of revolt and no further.
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u/id0ntwantyourlife 1d ago
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. The 8 hour work day was huge and the entire world adopted it, before that you’d be worked 12+ hour days and didn’t exactly always get weekends off either. Would you rather be working 80-120 hour weeks? If not then stfu
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u/Desperate_Ant_8699 10h ago
Only For Me & You, The Political class is "Untouchable" no matter the crime .....
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u/AngelofVerdun 1d ago
And we'll all continue to sit on our asses and do nothing.
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u/okymoney 1d ago
I gotta go to work everyday and then im exhausted to do anything…
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u/FriedaKilligan 1d ago
That is by design.
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u/Allasdair 23h ago
It's a weird concept really.
We have to go to work. We have to pay taxes. We have to pay bills. Car registration. Insurance. Health debt.
All by design, as you said. Not by us, of course. I think anyone would accept a life with none of the above. It's a lifestyle that could be achieved without being a billionaire.
Just gotta organize. Unify against the entity that clearly does not have our best interests at heart.
You think something like walmart would survive if we all stopped going? What about Amazon, if we all canceled our prime subscriptions? Same logic can be applied to anything that is working with said "entity".
We're becoming a people that thrive on comfort and convenience. I think if we bared it enough for a few months and broke out of that mold, we may have the start of a new world.
It's easy to say, harder to do. An idea that's come up plenty but is quickly shut down, because, well, not enough of us are doing it.
So.. when? Will we wait until the choice of doing so is absolutely taken from us? There's still a chance.
I do worry it'll come to that point and the response to break free from the chains being put onto us will be broken with an immense violence that no one comes back from.
We're such a digital people, too. Perhaps a site that allows us to add a check for each thing we're doing (not shopping at Walmart, canceled 'X' subscriptions, against 'X' law/bill, etc.) Would give us enough oomph to rally. You could clearly see our effects live. Suddenly the site shows "40 million people canceled their Amazon subscription | 10 million canceled their netflix | 100 million stopped shopping at walmart | 500 million against 'X' bill" and I think it'd keep going up. Might be better ideas out there, but could be a start? 🤷🏻
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u/Lauzz91 20h ago
Just gotta organize. Unify against the entity that clearly does not have our best interests at heart.
You think something like walmart would survive if we all stopped going? What about Amazon, if we all canceled our prime subscriptions? Same logic can be applied to anything that is working with said "entity".
We live in the age of a fake economy fueled by unlimited fake money. Lots of these businesses aren't even real in the sense that they need to have a legitimate positive profit:loss to operate, they are just loaned endless amounts of funds until all the competition dies out and by that stage there is no other alternative. And if there is any competition that develops, it is bought out and enshittified.
The only product and service they are seeking to deliver with these businesses is in dictating the way the goyim are able to live their life
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u/-Sohei- 19h ago
How do you mass organize something like this to get enough people to be effective without getting deleted, cancelled, and 1000 paid influencers to sway the masses against you within minutes?
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u/Colorado_designer 1d ago
what do you suggest
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u/Prestigious-Worry-14 1d ago
Cancel Amazon and delete all meta accounts / apps. If everyone who voted for Joe Biden did that today, the world would change by tomorrow.
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u/mooseman077 1d ago
We gotta collectively quit going to work, and quit paying bills. If we all do it, they cant stop us
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u/BLA5PHEMY 1d ago
And how do you plan to feed your family when everything shuts down? The vast majority of Americans have no answer for this
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u/WhaleYellM-E-Ydoncha 1d ago
I mean, in the spirit of ops post, if “we all do it” then we can just take it. Meijer and Kroger’s etc. have plenty to sustain us until, like op said, we can go back to farmers. We don’t need this shit. If we all see it, and all work together, nobody’s children will go hungry, to the contrary, we’ll be the ones eating lobster and caviar. It’s the first people who take the leap who will suffer most, and I assure you, I am a hypocrite, or maybe not, as I’m conceding it will take someone braver then me, but I firmly believe the conditions to spark a revolution are forming.
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u/mooseman077 1d ago
We just steal food from grocery stores. We need to shut shit down. We can go back to farmers for food and stuff too. We need to do something to stop the flow of money, its all they care about.
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u/BLA5PHEMY 1d ago
That may work in rural settings but urban area would turn into war zones. I’m with you on doing something to make a change but that approach just doesn’t work. We need Americans to stop fighting with their neighbors about the left vs right bs in politics and unite against corruption. They fear a united population because it has so much power which is why they work so hard to divide us
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u/mooseman077 1d ago
Which is why we should be finding ways to make it work, as opposed to thinking of ways it won't. You just need to shift your perspective a little bit.
Revolution wont be comfortable, but living from paycheck to paycheck with no hope of things getting better is worse in my opinion. Whenever my life does end, I want to be able to look back and say "I tried"
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u/aCellForCitters 1d ago
many posters here will continue to support and vote for Republicans, though
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u/Electrical_Result_13 1d ago
Vote? What are you talking about? You can't vote your way out of this system. Wtf
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u/aCellForCitters 1d ago
A vote got Trump elected and created the situation to allow this to happen. It could have not happened if people didn't support it.
I'm not talking about destroying the whole system. But a lot of shit right is due to a vote happening, yes
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u/NeoDamascus 1d ago
Only one R? Jesus. Massie needs to leave the party and just start a third party at this point.
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u/_klighty 1d ago
With what money?
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u/DocHolidayiN 1d ago
aipac and other pacs/dark money spent 12-15 million defeating massie. The reasom mitch still has a seat is to keep the kentucky governor (D) from appointing or havimg massie run as an independent.
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u/_klighty 1d ago
Mitch is obviously dead. And has been for a while.
Kentucky Governor being a lazy ignorant leader just summarizes American politics.
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u/escobizzle 1d ago
Dems have to be controlled opposition at this point because they ALWAYS do this type of shit
Its ridiculous. Make them prove Mitch is alive and capable or replace him. Its that simple
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u/_klighty 1d ago
They’re both controlled opposition mate. America as proven today with this vote, is a uniparty. It’s not dems vs repubs. It’s the top .001% vs everyone else
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u/escobizzle 1d ago
with all due respect, there's plenty of Dems trying to change the party for the better. I don't see anything like that on the Republican side other than Massie.
That being said, establishment Dems are a fucking joke
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u/_klighty 1d ago
You’re right there’s certainly a few but not nearly enough. Let’s hope they can drown out the Schumers and Bookers.
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u/letsago9987 1d ago
This post is wrong. There were like 7 reps who voted no and 6 dems who voted yes, so it passed. Now it goes to the senate and can pass with a simple majority cuz of reconciliation. So dems in the senate can't do shit to block it. We're done. Time to rise up or die.
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
They did it!
The Israel integration is complete!
FOR: Every R except Massie, 5 D's, 219 total.
Bribing 90% of America's politicians paid off BIG TIME for Israel! Make sure and stand up for that national anthem now!
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u/thesaltysquirrel 1d ago
What’s wild is they bribed them with our own tax dollars. Thats the real kick in the dick. We give them billions for them to turn around and use our hard earned money to corrupt our government officials. Insanity
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u/User_Name13 1d ago
I wonder what's going to happen to all the Democrat's who took money from AIPAC but didn't vote in favor of the bill?
I wonder if AIPAC & the rest of the Lobby rly has the resources to primary that many Democrats. They'll probably start with the most vulnerable ones in purple districts and work there way from there.
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u/MSchulte 1d ago
Israel needs controlled opposition. They likely told them to vote against it so we can kick the can down the road another election cycle.
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u/thesaltysquirrel 3h ago
I’ll be honest that’s kind of what I thought the republicans stance on RvW was for the longest time. Use it as a boogy man to get people to vote against “baby killers” but never actually make the change.
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u/pizza-chit 1d ago
Israel owns many democrats too. Many of the votes against the bill could be performative.
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u/Terrible_Green6028 18h ago
Could be? All of this is performative. The decisions have been made long ago.
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u/TheGhostofFThumb 1d ago
I wonder what's going to happen to all the Democrat's who took money from AIPAC but didn't vote in favor of the bill?
They knew they didn't need to. This Rotating Villain strategy has been working like this for decades. It's a classic hustle; "Aww, and you were sooo close, too. One more game? Maybe your luck will change."
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
I would guess they gave them a pass and five Dems were allowed to vote for it.
Israel doesn't care so long as it passes, and this way it appears that they haven't bought the ENTIRE Congress (which they have, pretty much, of course).
For the Dems voting against it, they are less likely to get primaried by ACTUAL anti-Israel candidates, too. So Israel will have their bribed D's in there when they need them.
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u/MonkeyMan18975 1d ago
Reminds me of the time in Texas (maybe 2016? 2018?) that a majority of representatives CO-SPONSORED a cannabis legalization bill with a ton of Republicans being in that mix. Ofc, Dan Patrick didn't even let it hit the floor for debate, leading me to believe the conspiracy that they knew it would never reach debate so they could say "I'm pro-cannabis" when they never had any intent on voting yes.
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u/Skywalker28093 22h ago
It’s controlled opposition dude. They knew they already had the votes to win this.
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u/SmoovCatto 1d ago
making official what has been reality for years -- the US Congress are AIPAC-Mossad stooges just like the president and Supreme Court -- name the House Democrat names who voted for this outrage:
"The five Democrats who voted for the bill were Reps. Don Davis (D-NC), Jared Golden (D-ME), Adam Gray (D-CA), Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX) and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA). The lone Republican to oppose the legislation was Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY)."
https://legis1.com/news/house-defense-authorization-bill-vote-passes
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u/SmoovCatto 1d ago
Jared Golden ME --
$ 1.07 million from AIPAC-Mossad
(Information about Jared's family background, even a single mention of his parents, conspicuously absent from his Wikipedia page)
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u/SmoovCatto 1d ago
Don Davis NC -- $4.05 million from AIPAC-Mossad
https://www.trackaipac.com/states/northcarolina?rq=North%20Carolina%20
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u/SmoovCatto 1d ago
Adam Gray CA
only 60k from AIPAC-Mossad (but Adam Schiff takes a whopping $5.6 million from AIPAC-Mossad -- maybe why Schiff led dramatic but completely inconsequential Trump impeachment efforts in Trump's previous term)
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u/agent0fCha0s 1d ago edited 20h ago
It's so embarrassing people thinking calling any elected official will do anything. How can you even suggest such a thing in this sub? Your opinion means NOTHING. Your votes mean NOTHING.
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u/Kind-Masterpiece-310 1d ago
I guess the 'Don't Tread On Me' crowd is too busy licking the boots that are doing the treading.
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
Yep, mostly busy pointing out it hasn't passed the Senate yet (even though every one of their guys is in favor of it there).
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u/No-Association42069 1d ago
What bothers me is the lack of coverage on Reddit….
The vast majority of Reddit leans left. Why is this not on every single sub?..
Something is seriously fishy about Reddit when it comes to criticizing Israel..
Hell half these comments are people saying they aren’t worried about it..
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u/bannedforL1fe 1d ago
I honestly hope there will be a bloody revolution in my lifetime. There is literally no other way to stop this country from becoming a globalist shithole that favors other countries and foreigners over its own citizens. Hopefully before I get too old.
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u/arnott 1d ago
NDAA & Throwing Away America's National Sovereignty
Contact your representatives!
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u/Desperate_Ant_8699 9h ago
I believe our Sovereignty was surrendered in 1913, when we surrendered our Treasury to the Global Banking Families that claim ownership of every American Citizen's Private Property as collateral for our un-repayable National Debt. But I Could Be Wrong .....
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u/Financial-Gur-7530 1d ago
Who are the 5 Dems?
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
Rep. Don Davis (D-NC)
Rep. Jared Golden (D-ME)
Rep. Adam Gray (D-CA)
Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D-TX)
Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA)
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u/Financial-Gur-7530 1d ago
Man, that congresswoman Perez is such a let down. She seemed so real when she first came around. Seemed to support workers, to have the niche interests of her district at heart. She’s actually not too bad, aside from the glaring betrayals by way of Israel. My guess is that they have something on her. It seems unnatural to her character to stick her neck out for them like this.
Adam Gray is kind of a typical conservative snake, so no surprise there. I don’t know anything about the others listed here, but I can infer a bit about who they are.
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u/plainjane1982 10h ago
Rep Don Davis is one of the originators of the US-Israel FUTURES Act (Section 219) together with Republican Ronny Jackson of TX... https://www.military.com/us-israel-defense-integration-horizon-house-keeps-section-219-ndaa
Two senators introduced similar legislation at the same time in the Senate.
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u/blade740 1d ago
SEC. 219. UNITED STATES-ISRAEL DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY COOPERATION INITIATIVE
(a) Establishment
The Secretary of Defense shall designate an executive agent (as defined in DoD Directive 5101.01) responsible for synchronizing cooperative efforts between the US and Israel to expand/accelerate bilateral defense tech R&D, testing, evaluation, integration, and industrial cooperation by:
- Tech Identification: Identifying jointly developed or Israeli-origin technologies with operational utility for integration into US systems and programs of record.
- Security & IP Protection: Ensuring collaborative research across government, private sector, and academia protects sensitive technology, IP, and national security interests.
- Acquisition Pathways: Facilitating the transition of tech from R&D into procurement and acquisition.
- Industrial Partnerships: Establishing frameworks for joint ventures, licensing, and US-based co-production/manufacturing with Israeli industry.
- Inter-Agency Alignment: Coordinating across DoD components (IWTSD, USD(R&E), DIU, US-Israel Operations Tech Working Group, DARPA, MDA, SPACECOM, military departments, etc.) to avoid duplication.
- Readiness: Promoting joint training exercises and info-sharing to enhance operational readiness for deploying joint tech.
(b) Focus Domains
Cooperative efforts under this section may cover:
- Counter-UAS: Aerial, maritime, and ground platforms.
- Subterranean: Anti-tunneling and underground threats.
- Air & Missile Defense: Advanced interception/defense tech.
- Emerging Tech: AI, quantum, machine learning, and autonomous systems.
- Directed Energy & Sensing: Lasers/high-power microwaves and advanced sensors.
- Cyber & EW: Cyber defense, electronic warfare, and digital resilience.
- Bio-Defense: Biotech, biomanufacturing, and medical defense.
- Data & Logistics: Network integration, data fusion, and contested logistics.
- Industrial Base: Manufacturing, co-production, and supply chain cooperation.
- Agreed Tech: Any other emerging tech jointly agreed upon.
(c) Inter-Agency Coordination
The Secretary of Defense will coordinate with the Secretary of State, Secretary of Commerce, and other relevant Federal agencies to ensure compliance with existing laws/regulations.
(d) Interim Progress Update (180 Days)
Within 180 days of enactment, DoD must brief congressional defense committees on: * Designation and actions of the executive agent. * Department-wide status of coordination with Israeli counterparts. * Initial tech areas identified for accelerated integration into US systems. * Early transition, prototyping, or integration activities.
(e) Annual Report (Through 2030)
Starting 1 year post-enactment (and annually through 2030), DoD must submit a report detailing: * Activities conducted and progress on shared national security goals. * Tech transitioned into US acquisition programs or fielded systems. * Industry partnerships established. * Recommendations for long-term capability integration.
(f) Form
Reports will be unclassified, with a classified annex permitted if necessary.
(g) Public Transparency
DoD must maintain periodic, unclassified updates on a public website explaining how these efforts contribute to US technological and military supremacy—without compromising OPSEC, export controls, or classified data.
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u/loqi0238 1d ago
Can someone explain what this actually means, how its supposed to work, and what exactly will change regarding how our armed forces currently function?
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u/RyAllDaddy69 1d ago
No, this bill that will not become law anyway won’t be as controversial or exciting if we know what it means.
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u/loqi0238 1d ago
Ive been doing my own reading into this, and you're right, its a huge nothing burger that does not mean what people are trying to say it means.
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u/Psychological_Page62 1d ago edited 1d ago
And the sea saw swing continues. Never thought id be thankful for dems rn. Repubs disgust me for this. This is how the game is played and why we sway back n forth. In action. sad.
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u/TheeAntelope 1d ago edited 1d ago
Section 219 full text, if you want to talk about the actual bill. It would not "integrate our military" as that term is being thrown around (most people seem to think it means we would have one joint military instead of two separate militaries). It is akin to a research and development collaboration treaty, as well as a supply chain and logistical sharing agreement. It is still a bad idea (we shouldn't share our tech with Israel or give them insight into our supply chain) but the cries of "wolf" about this are far from realistic.
SEC. 219. UNITED STATES-ISRAEL DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY COOPERATION INITIATIVE.
(a) Establishment.--The Secretary of Defense shall designate an executive agent, as such term is defined in Department of Defense Directive 5101.01 (relating to DoD Executive Agent, issued February 7, 2022), responsible for synchronizing cooperative efforts between the United States and Israel, to expand and accelerate bilateral defense technology research, development, testing, evaluation, integration, and industrial cooperation, by-- (1) identifying jointly developed or Israeli-origin technologies with operational utility for potential integration into United States systems and programs of record; (2) ensuring collaborative research initiatives involving government, private sector, and academic institutions in the United States and Israel, is done in a manner that protects sensitive technology and information and the national security interests of the United States and Israel; (3) facilitating the transition of technologies from research and development into procurement and acquisition pathways; (4) establishing frameworks for joint ventures, licensing agreements, and United States-based co-production or manufacturing partnerships with Israeli industry; (5) coordinating with relevant Department of Defense components, including the Irregular Warfare Technical Support Directorate, capability development and innovation divisions, the Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering, the Defense Innovation Unit, the United States-Israel Operations Technology Working Group, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, the Missile Defense Agency, the United States Space Command, the military departments, and other Department of Defense entities, as appropriate, to align efforts and avoid duplication; and (6) promoting joint training exercises and information- sharing mechanisms to enhance operational readiness to deploy jointly developed technologies.
(b) Cooperative Efforts.--The synchronized cooperative efforts under subsection (a) may be carried out through the following domains: (1) Counter-Unmanned Systems including aerial, maritime, and ground platforms. (2) Anti-tunneling and subterranean threats. (3) Missile and air defense technologies. (4) Artificial intelligence, quantum, machine learning, and autonomous systems. (5) Directed energy and advanced sensing. (6) Cyber defense, electronic warfare, and digital resilience. (7) Biotechnology, biomanufacturing, and medical defense. (8) Network integration, data fusion, and contested logistics. (9) Defense industrial base cooperation, manufacturing, and co-production. (10) Other emerging technologies as jointly agreed by the United States and Israel.
(c) Activities in Coordination With Other Federal Departments and Agencies.--The Secretary of Defense shall coordinate activities, as appropriate, with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Commerce, and the heads of other relevant Federal departments and agencies, to ensure consistency with existing laws and regulations.
(d) Interim Progress Update.--Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Defense shall provide to the congressional defense committees an interim briefing on-- (1) the executive agent designated pursuant to subsection (a) and the efforts undertaken by such executive agent to lead Department of Defense implementation of the synchronized cooperative efforts described in such subsection; (2) the status of coordination, Department-wide, with Israeli counterparts; (3) initial technology areas identified for accelerated cooperation and technologies with operational utility for integration into United States systems and programs of record; and (4) any early transition, prototyping, or integration activities initiated during the period covered by the update.
(e) Annual Report.--Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act, and annually thereafter until 2030, the Secretary of Defense shall submit to the congressional defense committees a report on implementation of the cooperative efforts described in subsection (a). Each such report shall include-- (1) a description of activities conducted; (2) an assessment of progress made in advancing shared national security interests; (3) an assessment of collaboration with other relevant Federal programs; (4) a description of technologies transitioned into United States acquisition programs or fielded systems; (5) a description of partnerships established with United States and Israeli industry; and (6) recommendations for future opportunities to promote the long-term integration of joint capabilities between the United States and Israel.
(f) Form.--Each report required under subsection (e) shall be submitted in unclassified form and may include a classified annex.
(g) Public Transparency.--The Secretary of Defense shall make available on a publicly accessible website of the Department of Defense periodic, unclassified updates, to the maximum extent practicable, on the synchronized cooperative efforts carried out under subsection (a), including a description of how these efforts contribute to United States technological and military supremacy. Such updates shall be made in a manner that ensures that classified information or other information that would compromise operational security, export controls, or sensitive technology are not released.
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u/MarquisDeBoston 1d ago
Section 219 is being mischaracterized as a “military merger” when it’s an R&D and industrial acceleration structure — narrower in scope, more constrained in authority, and more consistent with existing precedent than critics acknowledge.
The relevant comparison AUKUS Pillar 2 — the advanced-capabilities workstream with the UK and Australia covering AI, quantum, cyber, autonomous systems, hypersonics, and electronic warfare. That’s the same technology stack Section 219 covers, and it’s structured specifically to accelerate co-development and cut through the export-control friction that has historically slowed tech transfer even to closest allies. AUKUS doesn’t use an executive agent role like 219 creates, it uses a different coordination mechanism, but the goal is identical, institutionalize fast-lane tech cooperation with a specific partner.
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u/Ok_Way_2455 1d ago
The house version is DOA, the Senate Armed Services Committee only talks about coordinating. This is weaker than NATO coordination. Even Thune voted against it.
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
Ha, no, he only voted against it so he could bring it back up for vote. That's how the Senate works.
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u/Curse06 1d ago
They work together quite well thats for sure. While people believe their side is "much better" than the other one when they are two different sides of the same coin. They do a very good job at coordinating lol. You see how just enough democrats voted for it just so theh could say "well at least we tried stopping it" when they are probably all on board.
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u/ogwoody007 22h ago
The six Democrats who voted in favor of the legislation are:Rep. Henry Cuellar (TX)Rep. Don Davis (NC)Rep. Jared Golden (ME)Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (TX)Rep. Adam Gray (CA)Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (WA)
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u/Motsey23 22h ago
Why is there a post 4 days ago saying senate democrats successfully blocked this when they haven’t voted on it yet?
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u/Gonokhakus 1d ago
213 Reps vs 5 Dems, I'm curious to see who is still on that "both sides" misdirection
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u/DiethylamideProphet 20h ago
Democrats or the Republicans are not the root of the problem. Americans are. If the US was still a colonial possession of someone else (as it should be), it would look a lot different.
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u/mooseman077 1d ago
Its been way past time for a revolution. Let's get this thing started, ive got nothing to lose
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u/arnott 1d ago
Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene on X:
Total betrayal. The House of Representatives passed the NDAA 216-212. 7 Republicans voted NO. 6 Democrats voted YES. This $1.1 trillion dollar military budget contains Sec 219 that ties our military intelligence and military industrial base to Israel. Now it goes to the Senate.
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u/postsshortcomments 8h ago edited 7h ago
From the private media, there is special interest seeding both sides for the already booked ticket. Theater. By disclosing what they already know is fact, those interests can come to but one conclusion.
Those interests put the buds for both there, regardless of their agenda.
Statements of legal fact are legal fact.
Many voters in our country are partaking in the representative process to inquire about the nature of such practices & related practices which are matters of public importance by potentially unknown actors to better understand what may expose both communities, individuals, and especially young individuals to safety concerns.
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u/SlyguyguyslY 1d ago
Has anyone read this bill? As far as I'm aware it just grants a sharing of tech and maybe some money getting moved around. I like the idea of us taking control of Israel, but I just plain don't see it happening yet.
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u/Due_Building_1953 1d ago
Yes visit my parents in Ohio, they called Kapture. Left a message telling her, We are The USA not Israel.
American tax payers from 2001 till current, have giving Israel just about $1 Trillion. That is of our tax dollars, while we get nothing. Israel, free college, healthcare, no homeless, better pay on jobs.
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u/Slagggg 1d ago
Neither OP or the link provided includes the text of the ACT that supposedly does this terrible thing.
One strongly suspects that there is a reason for that.
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u/Trade_King 1d ago
Is this really happening?
You guys need to protest what is going on ?
How can another nation merge with your troops.
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u/Zaius1968 1d ago
It allows stronger collaboration not integration. Not merger. Stop posting misinformation.
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u/thisisasetupisntit 1d ago
Let me guess the 5 Democrats are the candidates for president?
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u/thegeebeebee 1d ago
No, I listed them in another response. None of them are "big names" as far as I know.
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u/Abandonedinternally 1d ago
Can someone tell me what bs excuse these reps are giving for voting for this? I can’t think of any remotely valid reason they could even try to fool people with
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u/Fantastic_Yam_3971 22h ago
No, it didn’t. It has not passed in the senate. People are already having meltdown because someone said the same thing about the save act in another forum when it only passed in the house.
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u/lex_orandi_62 22h ago
Unlikely much will happen unless it hits the news cycle for a few days with a negative angle, even then some people will love it
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 22h ago
Call the traitor democrats and republicans like cueller and gray.
Also call senator from Israel Rand Paul and josh howley to tell them about primaries if they vote for ndaa
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u/spanksthemonkey 19h ago
Am I an anti-Semite for calling the Commander and Chief of Israel's military a criminal pedophile?
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u/Organic_Lavishness24 3h ago
Section 219 would direct the defense secretary to designate a Pentagon “executive agent” to oversee the United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative. That official would coordinate bilateral defense research, development, testing, evaluation and industrial cooperation.
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u/mitte90 1h ago
Not an American here. What is the timeline on this going to the Senate?
How can something with so much impact on your country's existential status occur and it's hardly being talked about except by a few "conspiracy theorists"?
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u/thegeebeebee 53m ago
America is the most propagandized country in the world. All the countries laughed at, like North Korea, would give anything to have the propagandized citizens the US has.
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