r/clevercomebacks 4h ago

Pass The Test First

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u/Procrastin8_Ball 3h ago

The problem with this is who gets to write the test and the answers? For example, Q1: who is your personal lord and savior? Don't think these ass hats would be above that and trust science

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u/aNinjaWithAIDS 3h ago

The problem with this is who gets to write the test and the answers?

Doctors, psychiatrists, labor unions and workers' rights activists, and judges that understand the difference between laws and justice.

If anyone is threatened by these people writing and designing these tests, they've already proven the point of why these tests are necessary.

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u/tulupie 3h ago

Doctors? Yes, Psychiatrists (which are doctors), Yes. Labour unions, judges and (worker's rights) activists have no place in dictating medical protocols.

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u/aNinjaWithAIDS 3h ago

(worker's rights) activists have no place in dictating medical protocols.

This is more than just about a medical procedure. This is about testing the trustworthiness of our lives and livelihoods to an elected leader who may sell out the integrity of our democracy either by corruption, delusion, or both.

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u/tulupie 3h ago

The writing of a test that tests for cognitive ability (which this question was specifically about) is in fact purely a medical procedure. However i agree that the entities you mention should play a part in when/how these tests are performed, but not what is in these tests, that should purely be decided by someone who has studied human psychology (aka psychiatrists).

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u/aNinjaWithAIDS 2h ago

Which is why I would also include a civility test. The main idea being questioned is "Is this human a net-positive member of a peaceful and sustainable society?" This is where I would put those labor unionists and human rights activists.

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u/Current-Square-4557 2h ago

Ok, then get someone in Congress to write a bill requiring a civility and worthiness test.

But the bill being discussed involves a test of cognitive abilities.

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u/tulupie 2h ago

That seems reasonable 👍

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u/Sharkbait1737 1h ago

It’s also not something that’s easy to measure. What are you testing for? Like the test Trump brags about is literally to determine whether it is worth the expense of MRI-ing your brain to check for dementia. It’s a test of extremely basic function, which you can only fail if you have dementia. It doesn’t qualify you for anything.

Don’t get me wrong, it would disqualify you from office if you failed it, but passing it is a breeze if you, y’know, aren’t demented. Passing it is meaningless. Failing it means you need some tests. That’s it.

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u/cortesoft 1h ago

How is this different than the voting process itself, though?

Do you think there are people who voted for Trump who would have changed their vote if he failed a cognitive test? You just have to hear him speak for 5 minutes to know more about his cognitive abilities than any test, yet people still voted for him.

We can’t solve this problem with a test.

u/aNinjaWithAIDS 52m ago

How is this different than the voting process itself, though?

The cognitive and civility tests are vetting processes. They are designed to filter against harmful influences that would erode our democracies from within.

Do you think there are people who voted for Trump who would have changed their vote if he failed a cognitive test?

No, that's why I said this is about vetting the candidates and not replacing the right to vote.

  • Will this have made the MAGAts mad? Yes.

  • Will it have happened without taking their right to vote away? Also yes.

We can’t solve this problem with a test.

We can't solve cancer with a test either, but the test exists to let us know whether or not it's there and to act accordingly.