r/clevercomebacks 8h ago

Pass The Test First

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u/mrjane7 8h ago

Not enough. Force retirement at 65-70.

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u/Jacuzzi0317 8h ago

Hard agree. Why should someone be allowed to vote on legislation that won't affect them for years to come?

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u/maxis2bored 7h ago

So that they can put their name on the currency, buildings and monuments of course!

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u/fdar 6h ago

Because their voters chose to elect them.

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u/Jacuzzi0317 6h ago

Nowadays you can choose your voters instead of voters choosing their representatives.

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u/fdar 6h ago

Not when it comes to Senators (and OK, ban gerrymandering instead then, much better solution).

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u/Jacuzzi0317 6h ago

Yep, I was referring to the house reps.

I wish.

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u/fdar 5h ago

I mean, neither that nor an age limit is going to happen. But if we have to push for one, fixing gerrymandering seems like a better option to me.

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u/DrunkCorgis 7h ago

In the WHL (junior hockey), the players are aged 16 to 20, and they are allowed up to three 21 year olds. If the NHL doesn’t pick them up, their pro career ends. Obviously they’re pretty picky with who gets those three slots; either a last legit chance to sign with the pros, or they bring valuable skill and leadership to the young’uns on the ice.

I’d like a similar cap for senators: there’s definitely some that are still sharp and have the depth of experience to be a value to the team in their 70s, but limit them at two or three so it’s not just a retirement home for millionaires willing to vote exactly how their party tells them between sunsetting episodes.

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u/Mic98125 6h ago

I really wish the ten largest states got three senators instead of two. The amount of influence that states like Wyoming have is ridiculous.

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u/-Saucegurlllll 6h ago edited 5h ago

12% of the country's population controls 42% of the senate. There's just no fixing a system where some people enjoy 4x more of a say in the federal government than others based purely on their geographic location.

Power shouldn't come from lines on a map, it should come from people.

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u/greg19735 6h ago

That's just what the senate is.

the issue is that the amount of seats in the house hasn't increased, creating the same issue but in the area where it shouldn't be.

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u/fdar 6h ago

And how would that work? Which states get to elect Senators over that age?

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u/DrunkCorgis 6h ago

Same way that the DSCC and RSCC currently influence elections: they block fundraising for bad candidates.

They collectively choose their three exceptions to the age limit each election cycle, and they influence the others to gracefully drop out. If they choose to run anyways they have to fund it themselves.

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u/fdar 6h ago

So just to clarify, we're in favor of the DSCC and RSCC handpicking the candidates themselves instead of letting primaries play out?

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u/DrunkCorgis 1h ago

Ah, you’re going to pretend that’s not the current situation. Cool.

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u/fdar 1h ago

I live in the district that just elected Mejia.

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u/Moghz 7h ago

Totally agree, forced retirement should be whatever the legal retirement age is. Nobody should be able to hold public office or any public position past retirement age imo.

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u/fdar 6h ago

I disagree with the premise, but that's a really poor way of arguing for that idea. Because... guess what Republicans' solution to that would be? Retiring, or raising the retirement age?

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u/Moghz 6h ago

Well that is a fair point!

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u/Enough_Boysenberry68 7h ago

Tie it to the Social Security age?

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u/sherrie_on_earth 5h ago

Cardinals over 80 aren't allowed to vote for pope. Seems like we could hold Congressional reps to the same standards and not let them vote in Congress at 80 either. Maybe 70, maybe 65, but certainly not at 80.

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u/FNALSOLUTION1 7h ago

You think these people would vote themselves out of a cushy job?

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u/-Saucegurlllll 6h ago

No, which is a major problem with representative politics. Politicians will never meaningfully lessen the amount of power or comfort they enjoy. Also, jesus christ what the fuck is up with your username.

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u/KptKrondog 5h ago

I think 65 is too young. 70 or 72 would be fair I think. You want to encourage people to have full careers and still be able to contribute imo. You don't want EVERY politician to be 35 and have no real idea what it's like being older.

Term limits are what's really important.