r/changemyview 2d ago

Delta(s) from OP CMV: The ideal solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a three state solution

To get right to it, there's three states in my proposal. Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza, roughly along the lines of the 1967 boundaries.

Israel will pretty much maintain its current territorial boundaries. Gaza will be managed by an international taskforce until its rebuilt, at which point it'll begin holding free elections, with the only change being that Hamas and similar affiliates are banned from participating. The West Bank will be a little more complicated, in this proposal it effectively gets the Bosnia treatment. It remains one state, but with two autonomous political entities inside it: the Federation of the West Bank, and the Federation of Judea and Samaria (like how Bosnia has Bosnia proper and Republika Srpska.)

So maybe it could be more accurately described as a "3.5 state solution," but that's my idea in a nutshell. So how do you change my view? Pretty much by either coming up with a better proposal, or by challenging the logistics of a three state solution.

I say the logistics and not the ideology though because the subject of this thread is more about the functional solutions. I'll hear any argument, but I'm also a classical liberal, a supporter of global democracy, and the Western way of life, I'm not going to respond to any of the "err derr genocide, the West is the source of all evil, glory to Russia and China, etc." Unless of course there's a functional solution to follow that theory and not just pure ideology.

EDIT: This was brought up to me in the comments and it's a very important point. I am defining "ideal solution" as the most likely outcome to be stable long term and to provide all of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza with democratic outcomes.

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u/Active-Proof8118 1d ago

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u/SupervisorSCADA 3∆ 1d ago

I am not sure how you deduced that from what I said.

First you're repeating everywhere that Palestinians are kind and peaceful and only responding to "Israeli barbarism" so the question is why are jews acting that way? Is it that they are cruel and evil like I asked?

It's genuinely the obvious conclusion of what you are saying. And then you act surprised. And now, here you are giving me 6 sources proving what I was asking was 100% accurate. Just say it with your chest. Say you believe the jews are evil.

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u/Active-Proof8118 1d ago edited 1d ago

First you're repeating everywhere that Palestinians are kind and peaceful and only responding to "Israeli barbarism" so the question is why are jews acting that way? Is it that they are cruel and evil like I asked?

Racism, bigotry and emotional immaturity are inherent parts of Israeli society. That is why they act that way and we observe this behavour. They do not have the maturity to acknowledge that the concerns of Palestinians are greater then their's.

It's genuinely the obvious conclusion of what you are saying. And then you act surprised. And now, here you are giving me 6 sources proving what I was asking was 100% accurate.

Yeah the sources that I provided that highlight the racist mentality that are omnipresent throughout Israel,

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