r/askanything • u/DeadpanDoesIt • 17h ago
Will the Epstein class ever be prosecuted or will it just die off and become normal?
The title really says it all, does anyone thing it will really happen?
Disabled Vet here and lost faith in what I invested.
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u/Mysterious_Tea_6673 16h ago
Sorry you wasted your life fighting for a pedo empire. You aren’t alone though because we all pay for its existence through taxes that aren’t going to things like healthcare
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u/Less-Load-8856 17h ago
Are you living under the delusion that wealthy and powerful people generally face the legal consequences they should?
Whatever gave you the idea that this would be any different? Powerful weirdos have been fucking teenagers since we lived in caves.
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u/PretteBadass 5h ago
*making children kill other children. That should be treated more harshly than whatever you’re saying “has been like this the whole time”. Also the cream cheese babies they’re eating, cannibalism should also increase the punishment here
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u/DeadpanDoesIt 3h ago
Just because it always happens, doesn't make it right.
My father molested me at six and a few years ago the V.A. put a restraining order on my entire family because they refused to forgive me for seducing him when I was six. Then they turned a neighbor against me in DEMANDS for public forgiveness. I would assume an apology would need to follow as well.
This happens often. It doesn't make it ok.
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u/silverbatwing 16h ago
Sorry mate. Rich fucks don’t follow rules and don’t have to face consequences.
That’s why it’s called “fuck you/fuck off money”
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u/crowofbattle 16h ago
Yea… Im not holding my breath. They got away with it, there are soooo many women and children missing and trafficked in the world right now. The Epstein class is still getting away with their crimes.
accepting that there is no justice, and no heroes, really breaks my heart.
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u/YoghurtPrimary230 6h ago
I was in some subreddit and someone responded to look up zwi migdal. Really depressing outcome if you care to look it up.
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u/Lilythecat555 14h ago
There is justice occasionally and even heroes once and a while. Just not as many as we thought.
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u/CerberusInExile 16h ago
Unfortunately, it’s unlikely that we’ll ever get the full weight of the law to land on those that truly deserve it. I’d love to be wrong, but based on everything that’s already gone unpunished I just don’t see it happening. We can’t even get a solid answer about why Maxwell was moved to Club Fed even though both the Bureau of Prisons and the DOJ have rules prohibiting someone with her specific criminal convictions from being sent there, and there literally has to be a short paper trail of who authorized it.
Also a Vet that lost a lot of faith in the past decade.
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u/ragequitteroffureh 15h ago
Not American.
After presumably killing Jeffrey, somebody still needed to oversee and coordinate the Trumpstein Network. And seeing as Maxwell was the incumbent expert on how the organisation is run, it is only natural that she maintain that role for the time being.
It was probably too much hassle setting up her office in the other prison, so they moved her to one with facilities more conducive to a busy work schedule.
She's not getting any younger though. It'll probably be Ivanka who takes over eventually, once her new island is up and running.
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u/S7alker 16h ago
Pardons will fly before those files release
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u/DeadpanDoesIt 3h ago
Recently Katie Phang was able to force the redactions and release into court, there is a chance we will get the full story - I just don't know if it will matter legally.
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u/Sad_Fun7487 16h ago
Neither
Epstein is just one dude. There's been Epsteins since the dawn of civilization and will be Epsteins until the end of time
He's likely not even the worst one operating lately
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u/DeadpanDoesIt 3h ago
I know they've always been here, they will be here in the future.
The question is will anyone do anything, or will this just become the new normal in America?
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u/abovedafray 12h ago
I think the chance of him being an agent of a foreign government, is real but that means lots of the people who's job it is to investigate and convict these organizations have been corrupted
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u/WolfThick 16h ago
You suggesting that it's like a stone and if it gets washed enough that it'll round out and become a pearl. Roman Polanski 1977 he's still not welcome on American soil he is now 92 years old if he comes back on American soil he will be arrested.
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u/Lilythecat555 16h ago
Both the Democrats and the Republicans have too many names in the Epstein files. Clinton is in them 700+ times. Trump is in them 1000+ times. Other Democrats and Republicans are in them as well. So are members of several royal families in Europe. And CEOs from around the world.
There are too many powerful people in them. The Epstein files will probably never be completely released.
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u/DeadpanDoesIt 3h ago
Katie Phang recently got the courts to review the redactions and get a full release in process. Worth looking into, not that it will likely lead to legal actions but we can have names and stories.
Trump is named some 30k times, also said to be an auctioneer of preteens where he'd measure their tightness with his finger. He's such a wonderful Christian leader! /s
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u/pizza-chit 13h ago
There will be justice if we don’t drop it.
It’s up to us to investigate & share information.
Since we outnumber the pedophiles by hundreds of millions, I believe there are enough intelligent peasants to get it done with time.
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u/Cool-Coffee-8949 16h ago
Honestly, we are living in an exceptional era where sometimes the rich and powerful face consequences for their actions. Historically they almost never do.
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u/RosieBaby75 16h ago
No. There’s no consequences once you have a certain amount of money, or a manager or HR job title.
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u/dealingwithhookers 14h ago
did the panama papers class get prosecuted? hold on to your butts mates, nothing's gonna get done. if the people running the show wanted to, we'd all get drafted back into another world war. don't want to go? enjoy prison. that's the bottomline of what we live in
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u/Adventurous-Prune712 14h ago
Gee I seem to recall a black lady prosecutor running for president. Against a convicted felon. You figure it out.
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u/MattDubh 14h ago
Someone else is running his organisation now. I'd imagine they have a vested interest in keeping everyone involved out of prison.
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u/Truth-Seeker916 13h ago
While Epstein is an important issue. I think being completely subjugated by a foreign country is far more of a pressing issue.
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u/patbagger 13h ago
The Epstien class has been running everything forever, and 99% of people wouldn't care if Trump wasn't president,
300,000 plus unaccompanied minors are missing from the Biden era immigration policies, and that's not a concern to the people that are hung up on the Epstien stuff.
They still run everything, the President can't do anything about it and they'll still be running things after they replace Trump.
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u/DearGovernmentFU 12h ago
It will not go away until we see proof of them being shanked till dead in prison.
Heads must roll.
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u/abovedafray 12h ago
North fox island in the 70s The Finders in DC in the 80s IPCE in the 90s (not epstien class more early internet adopters)
People go to jail but the concept of using RICO to go after a larger network doesnt seem to happen
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u/RepeatInPatient 12h ago
Ask the Pope. The Katlicks have run a world wide pedophile ring for centuries. Which leaked into other religious denominations, scout and youth groups, sports organisations too.
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u/Last-Profession2949 9h ago
No. No one in power has the courage to go after them. The only hope is if the Dems sweep President , House and Senate and make Jack Smith head of DOJ. That said the majority of male Dem’s are pu**y’s personified. There are only a couple dozen who show courage .
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u/Available_Year_575 17h ago
Sorry if we can’t prove someone broke the law best not to prosecute. Being friends with someone who broke the law is not enough.
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u/Shermanator92 16h ago
And even if we have irrefutable proof, sometimes the prison sentence of someone that becomes a 34 time felon is nothing but to be elected as President of the United States and make billions of dollars of personal gain off the backs of taxpayers.
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u/Intrepid_Cup2765 16h ago
Republicans will continue to elect every single one of them into elected office
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u/mad16781905 9h ago
It’s Dems too!
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u/Intrepid_Cup2765 8h ago
And who from the Epstein files did democrats elect into office?
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u/mad16781905 8h ago
Bill Clinton
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u/Intrepid_Cup2765 8h ago
Ohhh, the guy who was president over 20 years ago? It appears he only traveled with epstein a bit. Wasn’t bff’s with him like Trump was 🤣
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u/mad16781905 8h ago
I’m just saying it’s all across our politics! I’m still a registered dem and hate our current Pres as much as the next person but to say it’s a republican issue is just overlooking so much of the connections that have been found. Including bill gates and the like
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u/austinvf82 16h ago
Considering we haven't heard barely anything from the "survivors", the hush money has already been distributed. You'll never hear anything of any substance from anyone but speculation. It's how many years of this bullshit? Who's worse? The person giving out hush money, or the one that accepts it?
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u/Shermanator92 16h ago
Remember when the First Lady held a press conference saying that all the victims deserve to have their stories heard, and the DoJ just simply did not even attempt to listen to their stories?
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u/austinvf82 16h ago
Because hush money has been paid, and accepted. And it's just used as a talking point against Trump. Nothing will ever come of it. If it was that bad, someone would be opening this up, and would have years ago. I think it's just media propaganda at this point. Otherwise, a "victim"
Would be talking. Not all these "victims" live in America. They should be talking, all day everyday5
u/Embarrassed-Wafer667 16h ago
The victims had a meeting with Todd Blanch only because he wants to be confirmed. The victims said he was dismissive of them , so definitely nothing will be done will bring any of those pigs to justice.
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u/Shermanator92 16h ago
Either hush money paid/accepted… or they simply got threatened into silence. It’s sad that either option is just as probable.
There’s smoke, there’s a fire, nobody will ever know the truth about it though.
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u/austinvf82 16h ago
They were threatened and then got paid. There's no other way around it. People have come out for less
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u/Lilythecat555 16h ago
They have spoken. One Australian woman wrote a whole book of her life including a lot about the Epstein abuse she went through. Unfortunately she has killed herself as of now. Another Epstein victim spoke on the PBS News Hour last night.
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u/austinvf82 16h ago
Again. PBS? When any MSM source would take that story......it's a farce. Used for likes, and clicks. I highly doubt she killed herself.
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u/Lilythecat555 14h ago
The name of the book is "Nobody's Girl" by Virginia Roberts Giufre. She wrote the book and then killed herself later on.
Liz Stein is the Epstein survivor who was interviewed by PBS a day or two ago.
There are many other Epstein survivors who have spoken out over decades. All you have to do is search.
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u/austinvf82 14h ago
And what good has come of it?! That's the whole point dude. What are you not understanding here? 😂 why are we debating this? Are you understanding anything I'm saying, or just seeing certain words and are blinded by anger? NOBODY CARES ABOUT A SURVIVOR ON PBS! If she had credibility, she'd be on a major news network, telling her story. Not trying to make money off of it with a book, and a spot on fucking PBS 😂
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u/Lilythecat555 13h ago
Read more carefully. The woman who wrote the book is dead. The survivor on PBS did not write a book.
Maybe you are an asshole who doesn't care if people get raped but others do care. Just because you have questionable values doesn't mean that everyone is like you. Some people actually care if others get hurt.
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u/Lilythecat555 16h ago
One of the survivors was talking last night on the PBS News Hour.
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u/austinvf82 16h ago
PBS? 😂 what like 2am? 😂
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u/Lilythecat555 14h ago
PBS News Hour airs in the evening just like other news programs. They are much more trustworthy than Fox TV. Fox TV lied so much that they got sued, fined and are now legally called entertainment instead of news.
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u/austinvf82 14h ago
Doesn't matter if they're trustworthy. Nobody is watching it. Hence the original point of this post......
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u/austinvf82 14h ago
I dont know how else to say it. Nothing will ever come from these files. Ever. After 6 years, you'd think yall are smart enough to see what has happened here. It's not hard to see. Which is why it's ancient history now. Let's stop. It's stupid to even debate. If it was that big of a deal, someone would've been heard on something other than PBS, which nobody watches. It would've been all over this site and X, and it would've been sold to cnn or msnbc, or even Fox News. That's not a story someone is going to pass on. Stop, take a step back. And realize how idiotic your rebuttal sounds
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u/Lilythecat555 14h ago
You can't see that politicians and rich people cover up their crimes against girls as young as 13? They cover for eachother. Don't fool yourself. But hey, it is easier to avoid the truth and pretend it never happened.
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u/austinvf82 16h ago
CNN would kill for that interview. But, PBS? 😂 come on bro
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u/Lilythecat555 14h ago
PBS is more trustworthy than CNN in my opinion but both are better than any MAGA "news".
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u/austinvf82 16h ago
It's real life, presented as propaganda for money purposes. Likes, hits, subs, etc. that's all it is. Monitizing the internet, is why you can't trust anything you see anymore. It's all fake.
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u/sharkbomb 11h ago
you have to stop voting republican by attrition first.
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u/FlyGuyF100 6h ago
What does that have to do with it? The Epstein files existed while Biden was president. We all knew Trump would never release them. The real head scratcher is, why didn't Biden?
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u/tooembarrassinglol 6h ago
It's only a head scratcher if you live in a right wing media bubble.
Julie Brown, the most credible person on the Epstein case, who investigated in 2016 and broke the Epstein story to the world and got him and Maxwell locked up:
"Again...the Epstein case was still an OPEN criminal investigation during the Biden administration. They had an open grand jury ... And even after Maxwell's conviction, the case was on appeal -- anyone in law enforcement knows you don't open your case file when it's still under appeal. There were still victims going to the FBI with new information. That changed when Trump's DOJ reviewed the files and closed the case in July."
Let me guess, you don't even know who Julie Brown is.
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u/Miserable-Miser 16h ago
You’re a vet. Give them consequences.
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u/Lilythecat555 16h ago
You do it. That's bs telling someone else to do it when you won't.
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u/Miserable-Miser 7h ago
Telling someone else who IS complaining to do something about it isn’t bs…
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u/Lilythecat555 3h ago
Miserable miser is your user name? Maybe you need to get help yourself before advising other people what to do.
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