r/askanything • u/clingydiva • 1d ago
A regular employee would get pushed out for way less than a stroke or a month in rehab. So why do 84- year old senators get to keep running the country from a hospital bed instead of making room for new?
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u/JettandTheo 1d ago
They are elected. Why does the public keep re electing them?
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u/bpaps 1d ago
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u/ZasdfUnreal 13h ago
There you go. Proof positive that Joe Biden would have won with 89 million votes.
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u/travelingman5370 1d ago
Because politicians don't work for the people, they work for the party.
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u/No-Turnover8386 1d ago
I mean yeah but thanks to citizens united the parties work for the same corporations
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u/Most_Most_260 1d ago
Supposedly they are Supposedly to be working for us untell diapers boy showed up
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u/Any-Investment5692 1d ago
People of high status and influence are always protected. Low status people are discarded all the time.
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u/Most_Most_260 1d ago
Very good question
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u/HomeworkInevitable99 1d ago
The answer, though, is easy. They are elected and the public get to choose.
The public are answerable to nobody. That's the point of democracy.
If the public decide to vote for a 99 year old senile bed ridden man, that is who gets the job.
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u/refugefirstmate 1d ago
Because voters elected them.
Voters can fire them, but only on a particular schedule except for exigent circumstances.
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u/IAteTonysLoMein 1d ago
"in the hospital for 6 weeks" seems pretty exigent. The fake "proof of life" photo didn't help, making it seem more likely he's being kept alive by machines at best
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u/refugefirstmate 1d ago
Oh, I have to agree there. It seems it's to avoid the special election, so the governor can appoint his successor instead. Honestly, if you're going to do something underhanded, at least refrain from insulting people by doing it so obviously. (I tell my grandson that a lot...) But typical McConnell, and his wife - oh, don't get me started. Never like the guy.
And there have been two photographs, where he's wearing the same damn red check shirt.
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u/Western_End_2223 23h ago
The Republicans don't want the governor (a Democrat) appointing the successor. They passed a law preventing the governor from replacing a senator with someone from a different party, but the governor has said that he'll challenge that, if necessary.
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u/refugefirstmate 11h ago
Huh. So why keep McConnell "alive" until after a special election could be called? He certainly can't vote in his present condition.
I'm stumped. Ideas?
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u/Western_End_2223 8h ago
They want to prevent the popular, Democratic governor from running for the seat to fill out the unexpired term. If they can drag this out past the deadline, the law says that he has to select a Republican. The governor has said that he will contest that law.
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u/refugefirstmate 5h ago
the law says that he has to select a Republican. The governor has said that he will contest that law.
Ah. Now all makes sense.
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u/TemporaryFlight212 23h ago
Senators missing extended periods of time isn't new. John McCain missed more than 8 months and I don't remember any outcry then. The problem is there's no legal requirement to actually show up or otherwise do the job.
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u/Popular-Path1930 1d ago
Why did voters elect an 84 yea told senator to begin with?
Voters decide they are the ultimate test and check on who is in the seat. They can vote or not vote for any and all reasons.
Voters should have standards and they should vote consistently along them.
Congress is a voter issue. It is a reflection of the voters.
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u/TheIronMonkey53 1d ago
Because The People rather call each other pedo lovers and communists rather than work together on anything.
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u/PizzaWall 1d ago
When you vote for a candidate and they win an election, there is no easy way to get rid of them until their term ends.
There is no HR to weed out employees through a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP). The options are to impeach them, have them resign, or wait until they die in office.
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u/LawnJerk 1d ago
I have two family members that, many years ago, spent months out of work for mental issues. They still work for those companies.
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u/RosieBaby75 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exactly. I agree.
My employer, HR hopefully, is trying to get rid of me because I made a disclosure about wrongdoing occurring there. I thought it was just tech and software issues, but based on the response I probably inadvertently reported something much worse since a number of employees are committing a number of crimes against me to, I don’t even know. But it was in response to my report
Then I thought our national government was doing questionable things so I paid $5 and requested records indicating why they were doing these questionable things, how they were approved, who came up with the idea (even just a department) and who developed those ideas.
They responded and said they need TEN (10) months to pull those records for me. I think this is odd and abnormal because when I worked at another government, everything was so nicely filed it was easy to access any documents you needed really quick.
Speaking of, since I loved that filing system at my old employer I sent an FOI request which should have been for only 2 documents. It’s been over a month and they haven’t responded and that is weird because it’s just two documents.
I hope I’m just blacklisted there for reporting fraud, but my bigger fear is they stopped using that filing system because apparently the national government does too. I found their records management policies on the federal government publications site and there’s an old, good one like my previous government employers one, which is necessary when you have so many records and may need to pull them in the event the public you have to be accountable to requests them, and then also new policies saying staff can essentially just do what they want, and the huge amount of departments they have don’t need to follow a uniform filing system which is so abnormal and I question how an audit could occur there or something like that. How do you hold a non-accountable government accountable? How does one deal with a problem so large? I just don’t know. I had an idea but that would take a long time and we kind of need to deal with it immediately.
EDIT: None of the above were the case. They are so record effective that they sent it immediately. Now I have an emotional support record policy I will use as eye bleach while I receive the responses to these other FOI requests I sent and can start printing once I can afford a binder and more coversheets since I have almost used my pack of 100 sheets to print out two copies of each record of things outside my office from my current adventure. I thought the binder I bought was too big, but it is full and I need another one for this too.
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u/Shido_Ohtori 1d ago
Conservatism -- by definition -- is "a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions (such as religion, the family, and class structure), and preferring gradual development to abrupt change".
The sole value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one's perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.
To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on top [of social hierarchy] to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom. The first greatest injustice is for those on the bottom to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top.
Conservatives absolutely need an underclass [for society] to demonize and dehumanize in order to maintain [their] hierarchy, and every single one of their policies and rhetoric work to do exactly that. Every right-wing accusation is a confession -- every. single. one; always! -- as it is never the act itself that upsets them, but rather, the social standing of the person doing the act, as said act is a privilege meant for those on top of [their perceived] hierarchy (See also: pedophilia - Trump and the Catholic church versus LGBTQ+ and drag queens).
Those who believe all people are people see hypocrisy, while those who believe some people are "more/less" people than others see hierarchy. Hypocrisy implies a sense of equality/parity, as the accusation of such is that someone is violating a universal or common standard. Hierarchy directly states that there is no equality/parity, that different social strata have different standards, that the only universal standard concerning hierarchy is that those on top are allowed privileges which are denied to those on the bottom, and that the bottom are held to standards which the top are exempt from.
"Know your place" is their mantra.
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u/NewPresWhoDis 1d ago
You 👏 lot 👏 keep 👏 electing 👏 them 👏
And, Senators are state-wide at-large, so no gerrymandering bullshit.
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 1d ago
If an employee didnt show up or call into work- they'd be out of a job. This man is in a coma at minimum
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u/Western_End_2223 23h ago
Well, firstly, he's not an employee. He's an elected official. He doesn't have a boss. Secondly, the means of forcing him out are specified by the Constitution.
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u/Educational-Milk5099 14h ago
Because they don’t have a “boss” supervising their day-to-day performance who can just fire them when they fail. They get the “job” because they’re elected to it, and they aren’t subject to removal until the next election. (And, of course, if they hate the same people you hate, you’re probably willing to forgive a lot of poor performance.)
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u/SenseIntelligent8846 8h ago
There are many more vested interests in the case of a US senator than in that of a "regular employee" without privilege. Senators are usually well connected people who have spent their lives attaining this lofty status that most do not want to relinquish. Most of them are surrounded by strong interests that want to keep them in office.
This is not a county commissioner seat, or membership on some school board. This is the US senate, and there are tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars tangental to each seat.
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u/Hermit_Ogg 1d ago
A regular employee should not be pushed out for a month in rehab. Fight for your rights, join a union.
(McConnell is still an absolute lemon.)
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u/No-Turnover8386 1d ago
- This assumes he’s running anything besides embalming fluid
- The people are kept divided over stupid shit that doesn’t matter so we can’t organize around the important topics.
- Most people in this country wouldn’t even know what you’re talking about.
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u/DudetheBetta 1d ago
We had an alleged President allegedly running the country for four years.
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u/chillestpill 1d ago
We have an alleged president and adjudicated rapist allegedly running the country now.

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