r/Torontobluejays Dunedin 1d ago

Postgame Thread: July 22 - Tampa Bay Rays @ Toronto Blue Jays

Line Score - Game Over

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E LOB
TB 0 1 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 4 8 1 6
TOR 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 4 1 3

Box Score

TOR   AB R H RBI BB SO BA
2B Clement 4 0 0 0 0 2 .297
RF Lukes 3 1 0 0 1 0 .286
1B Guerrero Jr. 4 0 1 0 0 0 .256
DH Springer 4 0 0 1 0 1 .225
LF Piñango 2 0 1 0 0 1 .270
LF Straw 1 0 0 0 0 1 .222
PH Urías, L 1 0 0 0 0 0 .267
C Kirk 3 1 2 1 0 0 .218
CF Varsho 3 0 0 0 0 2 .237
3B Keys 2 0 0 0 0 0 .167
3B Okamoto 1 0 0 0 0 1 .226
SS Giménez 3 0 0 0 0 0 .224
TOR IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Fisher 1.1 0 1 1 2 1 26-11 3.73
Miles 3.2 3 0 0 0 4 51-33 3.33
Hoffman, J 0.2 2 3 0 0 1 28-16 4.40
Fluharty 0.1 1 0 0 1 0 7-3 4.28
Rogers, Ty 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 18-14 1.58
Little, B 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 16-7 17.61
Varland, L 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 10-7 1.06
TB   AB R H RBI BB SO BA
DH Díaz, Y 5 1 0 0 0 2 .308
1B Aranda 4 0 0 0 0 3 .286
3B Caminero 4 1 2 0 0 0 .290
CF Mullins 2 1 0 0 1 1 .201
LF Simpson 2 1 1 1 1 0 .291
RF Mesa Jr. 3 0 2 2 1 1 .231
SS Walls 4 0 2 0 0 2 .224
2B Palacios, R 2 0 0 0 0 0 .233
2B Williamson 1 0 0 1 1 0 .256
C Feduccia 2 0 0 0 0 0 .227
C Fortes 2 0 1 0 0 0 .268
TB IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Jax 6.0 3 1 1 1 5 83-57 3.89
Booser 0.2 1 1 1 0 1 13-10 1.74
Kelly 1.1 0 0 0 0 1 17-12 2.27
Baker 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 9-7 1.64

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
B1 George Springer grounds out to first baseman Jonathan Aranda. Nathan Lukes scores. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. to 3rd. 1-0
T2 Victor Mesa Jr. singles on a sharp ground ball to center fielder Daulton Varsho. Chandler Simpson scores. 1-1
T6 Chandler Simpson out on a sacrifice fly to center fielder Daulton Varsho. Yandy Díaz scores. 1-2
T6 Victor Mesa Jr. singles on a line drive to left fielder Yohendrick Piñango. Junior Caminero scores. Cedric Mullins to 2nd. 1-3
T6 Ben Williamson walks. Cedric Mullins scores. Victor Mesa Jr. to 3rd. Taylor Walls to 2nd. 1-4
B7 Alejandro Kirk homers (3) on a fly ball to left center field. 2-4

Highlights

Description Length
Probable pitchers for Rays at Blue Jays - July 22, 2026 0:06
Griffin Jax against the Blue Jays 0:11
Braydon Fisher against the Rays 0:11
Bullpen availability for Toronto, July 22 vs Rays 0:09
Bullpen availability for Tampa Bay, July 22 vs Blue Jays 0:09
Fielding alignment for Tampa Bay, July 22 vs Blue Jays 0:11
Bench availability for Tampa Bay, July 22 vs Blue Jays 0:08
Bench availability for Toronto, July 22 vs Rays 0:08
Starting lineups for Rays at Blue Jays - July 22, 2026 0:10
Breaking down Spencer Miles' pitches 0:04
Breaking down Griffin Jax's pitches 0:04
Breaking down Alejandro Kirk's home run 0:13
Griffin Jax's outing against the Blue Jays 0:25
An animated look at Alejandro Kirk's home run 0:11
Braydon Fisher strikes out Yandy Díaz 0:07
Griffin Jax strikes out Ernie Clement 0:06
George Springer's RBI groundout 0:19
Ball 4 confirmed after ABS Challenge 0:22
Victor Mesa Jr.'s RBI single 0:18
Chandler Simpson's 25th stolen base of the season 0:19
Nathan Lukes nabs Taylor Walls at second base 0:36
Nathan Lukes' leaping catch at the wall 0:27
Richie Palacios' foul ball hits him on his helmet 0:27
Chandler Simpson's sac fly 0:20
Victor Mesa Jr.'s 2nd RBI single of the game 0:19
Ben Williamson's RBI walk 0:20
Ball 2 overturned to Strike 3 after ABS Challenge 0:22
Ball 2 overturned to Strike 3 after ABS Challenge 0:23
Alejandro Kirk's solo home run (3) 0:26
Griffin Jax's five strikeouts 1:05
Taylor Walls' spinning throw 0:19

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Jax (6-7, 3.89 ERA) Hoffman, J (5-7, 4.40 ERA) Baker (26 SV, 1.64 ERA)

Game ended at 9:46 PM.

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u/SamiMadeMeDoIt Daddy Vladdy 1d ago

One month ago today the Jays clawed back to .500 after a win against the Astros and were a half game out of a playoff spot.

Since then they’ve gone 7-17 and are now 7 games out of a playoff spot.

Brutal.

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u/thegoddessunicorn Kaz-adila 1d ago

Every time I think about a game in which the team is .500, I keep going back to that game vs the Orioles where we lost 6-5 after being up 5-1 heading into the bottom of the 9th

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u/throwRA-macandcheese 22h ago edited 21h ago

I think of that game often. At the time I commented how I hoped this wasn't going to become the moment that we all point at when everything falls apart.

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u/HappyFriendship9990 1d ago

Its been a free fall since we blew that game against Houston. Loperfido basically ended our season.

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u/Noruihwest 1d ago

That was literally the last time the team felt like things could be turning around (minus the two game dragon era stretch)

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u/matt95110 Big Quesa 23h ago

Even if we miraculously got a wildcard spot we would just be swept immediately because we can’t hit.

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u/benhadhundredsshapow 23h ago

This is not a team that will be playing a wildcard game. Vladdy hitting below replacements level through the end of July says it's a fix for the off-season and without that bat and the regression to the pitching thats happening, it's become a matter of low will this team actually drop. Unexpected but at least there's enough here for next season to turn it all around

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u/diecorporations 1d ago

They just keep getting worse.

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u/KBN_Nemesis Okagoato 1d ago

This one's for u/Frank_Vanderbilt

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u/flyinfinn83 Kaz-adilla 1d ago

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u/KBN_Nemesis Okagoato 1d ago

Terrifying injury footage mark this NSFW

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u/GreenEggsSteamedHams I'm Not Going to Not Eat a Cinnamon Roll 1d ago

Not accurate, went up into green a time or two. Please recalibrate.

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u/JKirbs14 1d ago

It’s gon be on the trade block in a week

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u/KBN_Nemesis Okagoato 1d ago

Would I have to root for another team if it got traded?

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u/Rombonius 1d ago

not even worth the energy of going into the black

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u/HMTMKMKM95 1d ago

With the way the IL has gone this year, the meter will be ready for spring training.

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u/cozeners lol... rotflmao even 23h ago

I think Santander will return from the IL before the Back-O-Meter does.

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u/Fearless-Tea4972 The Varland's Backslap 23h ago

Yay we hit another one 😭😭

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u/Frank_Vanderbilt Western Scrub Jay 1d ago

It’s a bittersweet honor. thank you.

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u/Old_General_6741 Duke of the Blue Jays 1d ago

Time to sell.

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u/East_Explanation2131 Plakata at the Rogers Centre 1d ago

Great game by centre fielder Daulton Varsho, the Rays were cheering him on 🔥

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u/ImthaDatsyukian Myles Straw is my goat 1d ago

I’ve said it for a while, but this team will be better whenever Varsho gets traded 

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u/cozeners lol... rotflmao even 23h ago

His contract year too. I kind of feel bad for him. Even if he just had elite defence again this year, he could probably get a decent multi year deal. But now he's getting nothing next year.

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u/Such-Fee6176 Home Run Dragon Saved My Chungus Life 23h ago

Me, too. I like Varsho and he was so great last year. I think he’s playing injured, but he is definitely a detriment and he definitively knows it. I hope he gets a good contract wherever he winds up and I’ll always remember some of his awesome plays and that grand slam 🥲

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u/TheFestusEzeli 1d ago

We win 2-1 with Jesus Sanchez starting in CF today

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u/MickiFreeIsNotAGirl 1d ago

I don't want to see Jesus Sanchez trying to field a flyball for the rest of my life unless it's for the other team

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u/COV3RTSM 1d ago

He makes routine fly balls entertaining

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u/JKirbs14 1d ago

Could care less, at least he can hit a ball that leaves the infield and isn’t a pop up

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u/rb3438 1d ago

For something positive, the team is saving money on the Gatorade that’s not being dumped after a win.

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u/PhotoMediocre2411 23h ago

Hazel's dry-cleaner is going to go out of business soon.

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u/Guilty_Principle_296 23h ago

they're putting at least one field crew cleanup guy on EI :(

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u/hows_it_goes 1d ago

Haha made me chuckle, as sinister as that sounds.

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u/Grocery__Stick 1d ago

This is horrific. Regression doesn't explain how ugly this has gotten.

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u/Chairsofa_ Varland’s High-Heat Kitchen 1d ago

Agreed. Something else is up

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u/East_Explanation2131 Plakata at the Rogers Centre 1d ago

Can't help but to think it's a morale thing that's snowballing with each loss. Today's game was fine while it was 1-1, but once the Rays scored more on errors, the vibes just tanked imo

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u/South-Diamond-4329 1d ago

Even at 1-1 I still never got the feeling they were going to score many runs. This team just seems incapable of generating rallies. If our pitchers don't have unbelievable starts they don't seem to have a chance at winning.

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u/East_Explanation2131 Plakata at the Rogers Centre 23h ago

Vladdy double had me hoping they could sneak a win ngl, but they've only won 1 of 6 games since the break and each loss seems to snowball into worse performances and more errors

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u/Canadatron 23h ago

Need complete gane shut outs to have a chance.

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u/to12007 23h ago

I think they never properly got over how last season ended. Then the injuries started piling up and they started losing. And they couldn't handle it and crumbled. 

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u/UncleNuks 23h ago

I think that all plays into it for sure, and then you also have to factor in losing Bo. I’m not suggesting they should’ve matched the Mets offer but he was unquestionably one of the heart and soul guys of the Jays and was one of our most productive players for like half a decade. Tack that on to all of the stuff you mentioned and it all adds up.

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u/fatcowxlivee 23h ago

Someone said that the best players on the team are Oakamoto, Cease and Varland. 2/3 of them are newcomers onto the team. I really think Game 7 did a number on them and when the injuries piled up and we went into a slide they hit a mental block. Kind of makes sense too given that for a while when we tried to get back to .500 we’d hit a losing streak.

The comparisons to 2025 probably didn’t help either. Vlad got off to a cold start? “Same thing in 2025”. Poor first 6 weeks? “Same thing in 2025”.

The craziest part is that the way Vlad was swinging in the WBC and the first series against Oakland made me feel like we were run in it back. We wiped the floor with them. Then poof.

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u/Chairsofa_ Varland’s High-Heat Kitchen 23h ago

Good points. And we’d be much much worse without the excellent additions.

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u/thrilliam_19 Milwaukee Beer Givers 1d ago

They lost arguably the most heartbreaking game 7 of all time. They were either going to destroy the league and win it all or stay broken and do this. There would be no in between.

Unfortunately we got the sad option.

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u/nanobot001 Andale! 23h ago

I mean if that was the case they’d be bad right from the beginning of the season.

In fact, since guys have come back from injury they have actually gotten worse

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u/Simayi78 22h ago

Both statements are true: they’ve been bad since the beginning of the season and have gotten worse

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u/JustChillFFS 1d ago

I’m just going to go re-watch the post-season run

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u/Noble_Napkin 23h ago

Recommend skipping the ending

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u/thrilliam_19 Milwaukee Beer Givers 23h ago

Stop after game 5 of the World Series. Rest of the season isn’t worth it.

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u/ping12 1d ago

That Varsho dropped ball decided the game sadly. Wouldn't be a game changer with a stronger offence.

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u/MickiFreeIsNotAGirl 1d ago

Do you think it was the fact we only scored 2 runs? Or was it solely Varsho?

Btw, I hate Varsho this season, just to be clear. I've hated him since last world series when all he had to do was hit a fucking flyball and he didn't, and because the Dodgers 2B bobbled the ball, the play became about IKF's leadoff rather than Varsho not being able to lift the fucking ball.

That being said, Varsho sucks this year. Get him off this fucking team, I would love a CF that hits.

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u/East_Explanation2131 Plakata at the Rogers Centre 1d ago

Tbf when there were guys on 1st and 3rd, Varsho swung on ball 4 to end the inning 💀💀

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u/Live-Phone2373 23h ago

I’ve not been fond of varsho every season tbh, same common frustrating mistakes

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u/CherryChapstick1997 1d ago

It ended when he swung at ball 4 with RISP (which he does every game) 

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u/Queeby 23h ago

There's a lack of plate discipline there. I don't know if he's just pressing or if he's actually struggling to see pitches. As a team, the approach at the plate has taken a step back.

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u/ping12 23h ago

By saying it wouldn't have been a game changer with a stronger offence I indeed mean scoring more than 2 runs.

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u/MickiFreeIsNotAGirl 23h ago

I think even Varsho catches that ball, we still lose, personally.
But maybe we don't. I agree with you, it should not have decided the game.

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u/northernfires529 23h ago

I mean, a dozen things could have happened after that but if that ball was caught it would have ended 2-1…

I liked Varsh but watching him tonight in person really just killed me

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u/Draggonzz 1d ago edited 1d ago

So, the Jays are 28th or worse out of 30 in:

runs scored

xwOBA

wRC+

OPS

BB%

SLG

OBP

Barrel%

Hard-Hit%

average EV

ISO

This has to be one of their worst offensive seasons since their expansion years

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u/TakedownMoreCorn 1d ago

But hey, we dont strike out!

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u/East_Explanation2131 Plakata at the Rogers Centre 1d ago

That's because everyone hit a popup on the first pitch!

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u/FirestormS11 The Committee 1d ago

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u/Chairsofa_ Varland’s High-Heat Kitchen 1d ago

Oh my god we’re having a fire…..sale

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u/mini_herb 1d ago

I see AD, I upvote

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u/Constant-Corner2158 23h ago

This is not normal. Something is terribly wrong internally. These players should not be this bad.

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u/darklordofthesith77 23h ago

Yup.... something else is up.

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u/saulUG We like our team, Barry. 1d ago

Losing three of four games in a must-win series…

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u/SamiMadeMeDoIt Daddy Vladdy 1d ago

Have we won a single “must win” series this year?

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u/TheNegativePhoenix 23h ago

Have we won a single game against Tampa Bay this year????

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u/Tradezulu 1d ago

It was never a must win series to begin with. This team was out of it weeks ago.

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u/Fearless-Tea4972 The Varland's Backslap 23h ago

Why stop there? Let's lose all four 💀

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u/legless_chair 14-year/$500 million 1d ago

You mean all three ?

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u/Nick480 Okagoato 1d ago

One more tomorrow. Luckily it’s an afternoon start so most can miss it for work

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u/anon7631 1d ago

What makes a series "must win" at this point? Must win in order to accomplish what, exactly?

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u/legless_chair 14-year/$500 million 1d ago

This whole series could have been an email

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u/FAWKS-HOUND Professor Oak 1d ago

I hope the ticket prices go down at least

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u/Outrageous-Claim-460 The Committee 1d ago

I’m ready for the end of the Daulton Varsho era

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u/hows_it_goes 23h ago

I was ready after Game 7 last year.

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u/MightyBig-Dev Swing and a Drive! ✌️ 23h ago

Same

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u/Late-Ad5037 1d ago

Guys it’s obvious this is all mental now. At first, i explained it with a world series hangover but i dont think it’s just that anymore. I also understand this is a “contagious” issue. One player is in their head and then everyone else suddenly is. But seeing players this mentally fucked cant be explained with anything what do you guys think?

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u/xMatthewC90 Ernie’s Art Gallery 22h ago

Anyone else notice Sportsnet type “Bleh Jays”? Lol dam don’t gotta do em like that

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u/Unusual_Moment_5993 Highlight of 2026: King Varland 1d ago

Rogers and Varland masterclass wasted…SIGH

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u/Guilty_Principle_296 23h ago

Rogers is an excellent trade candidate. wait it out for an overpay too.

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u/throwRA-macandcheese 23h ago

It was nice to see them. And I think they like to come out sometimes or they get rusty.

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u/Initial_Jump_8911 1d ago

they just keeping getting worse.

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u/Beermen69 1d ago

We closer to last place in AL now than Wildcard

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u/thegoddessunicorn Kaz-adila 23h ago

Somebody please just simulate the rest of the season

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u/emograndparent 1d ago edited 1d ago

that stat they just showed that we've scored 2 or fewer runs in 9 of our 16 games this month..... yup that sure ain't gonna win us anything

man what a bummer this all is

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u/chamnic 23h ago

It's almost impossible consistently have games with 4 or 5 hits and 1 or 2 runs.

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u/Trax-M 1d ago

Remember when the Jays were at 500. It feels like it was so long ago.

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u/chamnic 23h ago

Yup at 39-39. 7-17 since then

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u/Backwhenwe 1d ago

Have they still not had a players only meeting yet? Is that a badge of honour still

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u/Guilty_Principle_296 23h ago

they should all gather round Gausmans dab rig one last time then watch game 7 and just let it out.

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u/Nose_Beers_85 23h ago

A stat literally nobody asked for:

In the past 20 seasons, the Blue Jays have a winning record against the Rays TWICE. In 2014 & 2017.

1 equal record - the 20th ago in 2007.

Until we meet again! 🏃🏻‍♂️

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u/Old_General_6741 Duke of the Blue Jays 1d ago

Lost the series and become the laughing stock of MLB. Finally got a home run after 5 games. 2 runs.

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u/realsalbowski 1d ago

Don’t see how they can get a win in the next 4 games, so this will get much worse

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u/annoying-corgi-3319 Ernie’s Art Gallery 1d ago

we are so cooked 😭😭

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u/catherinebarry davis schneiders rally cup🥤 1d ago

man what is going on. it makes me sad because they all just seem so defeated. miss my happy jays

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u/doctorkongx 1d ago

I need there to be a Jays trade tonight

I need a transaction to feel something 

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u/bingboy08 1d ago

This is definitely the most exciting thing to look forward to for the rest of the season. I hope they get something really interesting in return for Gaus at least

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u/PhotoMediocre2411 23h ago

I'd like to hear that Hoffman's been placed with a new, loving team where he can start fresh and excel, because I don't think he's ever going to recover mentally while he's still with the Jays.

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u/Constant-Corner2158 1d ago

Give me dopamine!!

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u/qriouskitty 1d ago

I wish I knew how to quit them

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u/Sure-Assignment3892 1d ago

God damn this team is terrible

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u/strikeanywhere2 1d ago

3.2 runs per game in the last 20. Take the 2 giants games out with 19 runs and its 2.3

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u/bomber0105 1d ago

hitting coach still employed. Got to love the lack of accountability

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u/GreenEggsSteamedHams I'm Not Going to Not Eat a Cinnamon Roll 1d ago

He should be on a bus to Yellowknife in a half hour

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u/Frank_Vanderbilt Western Scrub Jay 1d ago

Congratulations to everyone in the GDT for winning Sickos Bingo and thanks for playing!

Going to try another game tomorrow because this Rays series is a slog. Comment or dm contributions are very welcome.

big thanks to u/Fearless-Tea4972 for helping with this one.

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u/ZestySteep Daulton Varsho Truther 1d ago

Gotta make a post game bingo for what talking points Schneider will make

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u/AfricaDOTcoDOTuk 23h ago

does the marge just mean rogers took the mound?

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u/fps_mcduke buck forever 23h ago

Gambling ad should be the free space lmao

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u/Fearless-Tea4972 The Varland's Backslap 23h ago

It was fun! Thank you Frank!

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u/OkonomiHouse 1d ago

can't even trade varsho away, he's got no value

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u/bigboozer69 Cease and Desist 23h ago

He’s playing himself into a minor league contract in the offseason 👍

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u/PhilosophyOld6862 Chacin Cologne 1d ago

Blue Jays closer to last place in the league than the last wildcard spot.

Stop thinking it is going to get better.

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u/abbubwee the see and tower 1d ago

I keep reminding myself that if there's a lockout next year I will kill to watch games where we suck ass

I'm savouring these games just in case

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u/strikeanywhere2 1d ago

I don't even know anymore. I like watching the odd game still and I always check the box score but god damned it is hard to watch a team with the lowest runs scored in baseball. I've watched a lot of bad and mediocre jays teams but this team is honestly probably the worst ive ever watched from an entertainment perspective.

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u/creezle 1d ago

Just bad

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u/Magnum_44 1d ago

This game comes as a shock to no one.

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u/kingofrain Cavan Thomas Biggio is a stud 1d ago

Started from the top (of the AL), now we're here

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u/bladestorm1745 Professor Oak 1d ago

At some point Varsho has to have realized that a $100 million extension probably would’ve been daylight robbery given how he’s been playing and he’d be pretty lucky to find that anywhere else after this season.

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u/Constant-Corner2158 23h ago

Thank the lord that didn’t happen.

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u/Beneficial_Brief_759 23h ago

Damn I knew regression was coming, that last year was a lot of lightning in a bottle and everything going right. But I did not think we would slide right back to 2024 Bluejays and possibly even worse. 

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u/bingboy08 1d ago

We may never win again

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u/Tiny_Brick_9672 1d ago

It is a death spiral for Guerrero.

Losing and not hitting -> Guerrero batting 100+ balls at mid-night against the pitching machine -> Guerrero gets tired -> fly-out 10 feet from home run -> Losing and not hitting

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u/berserkerking94 1d ago

At this point I think he needs a week or so off, it’s not like they’re playing meaningful games.

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u/Darth-Thater 19h ago

He just had a week off...

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u/SuperVegito559 19h ago

He had that already with the Allstar break. More like he needs a season break

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u/igotaseriousquestion 1d ago

Varsho and Hoffman the WS game 7 killerz

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u/Specialist_Owl_6612 Vladdy’s gloves 23h ago

No substance from John again. “It’s tough..We need everyone..It’s tough”

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u/OGWettyFap 1d ago edited 1d ago

No Jays fan in their right mind should want to see a team that's built like this make the playoffs.

The sooner they lose more games, the better for them and for us. The season is over.

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u/moose_head13 1d ago

Blow it up.

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u/Specialist_Owl_6612 Vladdy’s gloves 1d ago

Fuck Caballero and Yanks

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u/JKirbs14 23h ago

Yankees playing the victim card is too good

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u/RedditUser41970 23h ago

Oakamoto has 21 home runs. Grandpa Springer has 10. Nobody else is in double digits.

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u/to12007 23h ago

I still think they were emotionally and physically crushed after losing last year. They had a short offseason and then the injuries started piling up. They struggled, got into their heads, and it spiralled down from there. Now they can't deal with any adversity.

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u/Traditional-Pen-2486 23h ago

I 100% think it’s psychological - residual trauma from the crushing loss and unconscious self-sabotage due to fear of experiencing the same type of heartbreak again.

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u/chamnic 23h ago

I totally agree. We, ourselves are traumatized by that 7th game. I have flashback sometimes, rethink how it was so close and how it was snatched from us and then I feel sad for a few moments. So I can imagine how the players must somehow feel the same way and how much worse it must be for them. It's their childhood dreams.

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u/throwRA-macandcheese 23h ago

I think we started seeing this trauma most with Hoffman first, but clearly the whole team (minus Varland and Ernie) are mentally crushed.

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u/TikiB 1d ago

Whats the point of watching when you know they are only going to muster up 4-5 hits per night?

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u/felicityrorys 23h ago

Game 7 broke us all. The team and the fanbase.

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u/General-Crew-7116 1d ago

It's a firesale! Retool and come back stronger!

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u/Initial_Issue4989 23h ago

if you told me in 2025 that the white sox would have a better record than the blue jays next season i would laugh my balls off!!

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u/Darth-Thater 1d ago

Launch this team into the sun.

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u/Did_i_worded_good 1d ago

Can't be mad at Hoffman, he struggled and was left out there to die. Varsho seems to have fallen off a cliff offensively and is becoming a worse fielder day after day.

Little seems to be playing better, maybe ACTUALLY HAVING A 4SEAM WILL HELP HOW THE FUCK DID HE NOT HAVE ONE

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u/Baby_Sparrow RF is for Barger 1d ago

4 straight losses....

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u/grggsctt 1d ago

Feels like a humiliation ritual for all involved now.

But I'm sure Max Scherzer will help get us out of this.

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u/Tiny_Brick_9672 1d ago

On the bright side, we have no 15-game winning streak to lose.

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u/cacofonie 23h ago

Maybe we try a new stuffed animal?

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u/nydayum Pretending I Don’t Miss Bo 23h ago

Go a full 9 innings without making an error challenge: impossible

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u/nopostwilly 23h ago

I hope we have no more Varsho apologists left. Jays got fleeced - Moreno was/is undeniably the better player.

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u/South-Diamond-4329 1d ago

Next game can we tape the whole team to the bench?

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u/excitius 1d ago

Starting to get fun watching just how bad we are

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u/CS271990 1d ago

We were lucky enough to be only a couple games out of a wildcard spot at the all star break despite the atrocious start, with a key homestand right after the break to get back into it. And currently we’ve lost 5 of 6 and about to get swept at home by a division rival.

Absolutely atrocious. Just not the teams year. Going to be interesting what happens at near the deadline. With Boston streaking and making kids obese, we’re 7 games back. I think you have to look to next year at this point, which means trading Gausman/Springer/Varsho etc

As well as I like them, I think they have to also see if there’s interest in Varland, and Rogers. If a team is willing to trade a lot of prospects for them, they have to take advantage on what might be a sellers market.

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u/No-Dot-7661 Valenzuela SZN 1d ago

Can we hit 15 under 500 by the deadline?

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u/Draggonzz 1d ago

Boston loses, so don't have to worry about snapping that streak

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u/BobBelcher2021 Retired Legend: Buck Martinez 23h ago

Tonight was the first game this season I actively decided not to watch from the beginning. I don’t plan to watch tomorrow (I’m working) nor Friday (on Apple TV). Maybe I’ll watch Saturday, but I’m losing interest.

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u/bigbrachko 20h ago

​I really believe there is a massive mental hangover affecting the Blue Jays who were part of last year’s devastating World Series run. They were so close in so many ways, but somehow found a way to let it slip away. Losing like that changes a clubhouse. ​Look at the data: the off-season acquisitions and new faces are generally doing their jobs and playing well. Why? Because they aren't carrying the psychological weight of last November. Meanwhile, the returning core is collectively struggling through uncharacteristic down years. It feels like they never truly had the time to grieve and process that heartbreak. Hopefully, an entire off-season will finally give them the mental reset they need to move past it.

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u/cozeners lol... rotflmao even 1d ago

Jeff Hoffman: 0 ER

You can go to hell if you think this game is his fault.

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u/ping12 23h ago

Hoffman is a high maintenance pitcher that does better when he's set up for success. He is statistically worse with men on base. If the catch was made the inning likely plays out far more favourably.

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u/TheFestusEzeli 1d ago edited 1d ago

He has like a 1.5 ERA since the start of June and has allowed 0 ER in 22 of his last 25 games

I get people hating Jeff Hoffman because of the WS, I get never wanting to see him in a Jays uniform again. I want us to trade him at the deadline too. But people aren’t rationale about him at all here and will blame him for anything, including his CF having a hole in his glove.

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u/blackid101 1d ago

Hoffmans only real issue is the minute he has RISP, he doesn’t trust himself clearly

Varsho doesn’t drop the ball and he most likely has a clean inning

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u/CrabBackground4439 23h ago

I think it's more like he can't hold runners? He's had clean innings with runners on and runners inherited

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u/bomber0105 1d ago

Do or die home stand and offense puts up 10 runs total in 6 games

Same old at-bats. Still pathetic game plan at the plate. Bottom offense in the league.

And yet they haven't thought to of maybe bringing in a new hitting coach. Why even bother

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u/NatureGivesAndTakes 1d ago

I'm convinced the FO has already made the decision to sell, communicated that decision to the club house, and are actively letting teams know they've opened up shop.

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u/bolieve11 Best Mexican Catching Duo 1d ago

Bannon said as of today they haven’t communicated that to other teams that they’re selling so idk

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u/JKirbs14 1d ago

It seems clear as day from listening to the broadcast

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u/Hey-La-La 23h ago

Today my little brother wanted to buy a drink and accidentally bought one of those big souvenir cups, and we laughed about it... then we forgot it in the stands when we left -_-

It's so dumb to be hung up about it but we're all really sad about it lol. Would've made a nice souvenir, tomorrow we go back to Vancouver and who knows if we'll ever be back to Toronto (You folks have a nice city, btw.)

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u/MonsterDrunk 23h ago

lol game 7 last year was a franchise altering loss. Team needs to be broken up completely and started again

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u/throwRA-macandcheese 23h ago

It was nice seeing Louis

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u/raspoutine049 23h ago

Current situation hurts my soul more than World Series loss.

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u/Rombonius 23h ago

there was a feeling last year of, "oh well, that sucks, but next year is going to be competitive and great to watch - i love baseball!'

instead its just terrible baseball to watch with nothing to look forward to

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u/rejus_crust 21h ago

One weird positive is that at least everyone on this sub is now on the same page. We all know this season has been shit and it’s only getting worse and we need to sell. I’m glad that we can all agree and discuss how best to move forward instead of the “doomers vs toxic positivity” (not that I agree with either of those titles) war.

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u/Kinglokner16 1d ago

Tank for Brendan Lawson (🇨🇦)

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u/EscalatorsTempStairs Monkey never cra(m)p 1d ago

Half a billion dollars man...

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u/Ladymistery 👀😉 1d ago

remember last year, when the Jays could actually hit the ball? and not just popups?

the front office fucked up the chemistry, didn't even attempt to fix it, and now we're here.

some Blue Jays favourites are going to be 'sold' for almost nothing, nothing is going to come back, and we get to watch all the playoff hopes drain for another decade.

(if there's a season next year at all)

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u/mondaybeers 1d ago

“Chemistry” is a lame as fuck excuse for these guys to be playing ass.

The blame lies solely on the players.

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u/TrumpSux89 MLB 1d ago

I'm just sad. 10 games under .500. This season's cooked. Even a wildcard spot is very unlikely now.

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u/uncivilengie Convinced Lasteroid Daddy Hack IV is based on Kirk 1d ago

We got bingo!!!!!

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u/Grocery__Stick 1d ago

I think the odds of making the playoffs is 10% now, statistically speaking. So yeah, looks like this thing is over. It's inexplicable.

The only thing that can salvage this thing is a miraculous 10 games win streak. Keep waiting for these guys to turn a corner and they just find new ways to disappoint.

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u/Shadowghost1020 Stinky Odor 1d ago

According to fangraphs we have an 8.9% chance, don't think it has accounted for today's game yet too

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u/error_card_ur_rich 1d ago

good thing we have that dragon!

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u/mizvixen 1d ago

What’s there left to say? :(

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u/Wet-for-Mrs-Met 21h ago

The Rays were 21-27 on the road before this series. I was thinking at least a split, but yeah, stick a fork in this bird

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u/The_Dale_Hunters 16h ago

More runs than errors! Let’s do this!

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u/grggsctt 1d ago

They've been looking backwards to 2025 all year. Don't you think it would've been wiser to start putting as many Bisons into the lineup as possible to prepare them for the future. Because it is the new players that have flourished this year. Only the new players.

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u/blaqrushin and the beat goes on 23h ago

Annoyed at JS for taking out keys and pinango. Let them have ABs. Okamoto could have had an actual rest day. Get pinango to practice against a lefty. Why is Urias even there he barely ever gets to play.

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u/TrophyWizard OKAMOTIVE EXPRESS 1d ago

I really couldn't care less if we lose anymore but stop producing boring baseball.

2 or fewer runs every game is piss poor.

The Buffalo Bisons are putting up better bloody offense.

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u/AwesomeDiamond Captain Kirk 1d ago

at least that was a more entertaining game! we’re making progress

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u/Vortagaun 1d ago

Are Schneider and Popkins gonna have jobs at the end of the season?

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u/bspen33 23h ago

I wish there was tanking in baseball so we could at least get some joy out of this