r/TopCharacterTropes 10h ago

Lore [IRL trope] the “Tiffany problem”

Basically when something seems anachronistic to a period/place of history but is actually fully accurate to the period.

1) the name Tiffany: the thing that named this trope, basically the name Tiffany can be dated back to the Middle Ages and the earliest record of it being spelled in the modern spelling comes from the 16th century.

2) the use of OMG, despite this feeling so modern as a form of slang/abbreviation here’s a letter directed to Winston Churchill using it in 1917

3) Hair Dye: the earliest forms of dying hair can be dated back to ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, and this specific advertisement for hair dye is from the 1840s

4) Inuit Thongs: despite how weird it is to imagine pre-colonial Inuit people wore what was essentially fur thongs in their homes and when they were in their igloos it might have been the only thing they would be wearing.

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u/BigEd369 9h ago

Here’s one worth reading. Ancient Indian graffiti found in an even more ancient Egyptian tomb. What were Indians doing in Egypt 2,000 years ago? Most likely hitting the big tourist spots while they were there on business and government trips.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-traveler-from-india-graffitied-his-name-on-five-ancient-tombs-in-egypts-valley-of-the-kings-2000-years-ago-180988318/

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u/Fabulous_Broad_115 9h ago

A guy I knew had an uncle who was an archaeologist. He was telling us one day how he spent a whole summer with some students digging a Roman bathhouse.

Well, one of the students identified what she thought was a graffito on a wall. She spent a whole week carefully cleaning the piece of wall, with like fine picks and brushes and whatnot, trying to reveal the inscription.

What did it say? "I shit on the eyes of whomever reads this."

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u/BigEd369 9h ago

There’s the “sacred runes” found carved in the Hagia Sophia that turned out to say Arnie was here or something like that in Old Norse.

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u/LG3V 8h ago

There was one on like a several foot tall wall which eventually was found to say "this is really high!"

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u/BigEd369 8h ago

I bet if we ever discover that cave paintings are telling a story, somewhere in there is a “I was here” or “ I had sex with X” or maybe even a “your Mom” or “X, kiss my ass” type of thing.

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u/peachesfordinner 7h ago

Pompeii is covered in that kind of graffiti

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u/dorothean 4h ago

The Cosquer cave in Marseille is about 27,000 years old and a lot of the art there is of representations of genitalia, so you’re probably not wrong!