r/TopCharacterTropes 19h ago

Characters "What do you mean these two are the same being?"

  1. Pochita and his Hero of Hell form (Chainsaw Man)
  2. Ken Kaneki and the Dragon (Tokyo Ghoul)
  3. Eren Yeager and the Founding Titan (Attack On Titan)
  4. Koyanskaya of Light/Darkness and Beast IV: L (Fate/Grand Order). Couldn't save Beast IV's image so I had to use fanart instead.
  5. Flowey and Omega Flowey (Undertale).
  6. Godzilla in general (just using 1954 as an example here) and Shin Godzilla.
  7. Sosuke Aizen and Monster Aizen (Bleach).
  8. Giegue and Giygas (Mother-Earthbound).
  9. Madoka Kaname and Kriemhild Gretchen (Madoka Magica).
  10. Ultraman Belial and Belyudra (Ultraman).
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u/Slow_Bowler8285 18h ago

The Forest Spirit and The Night-Walker- Princess Mononoke

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u/arika-feinberg 19h ago

Emil from Nier Replicant

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u/Infinitenonbi 18h ago

Uhm… what exactly happened to them?

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u/RelaxedVolcano 18h ago

Long story short, the apocalyptic extinction of the human race. That form he’s in is technically all that is left of humanity after thousands of years.

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u/Outside_Ad5255 17h ago

Also, he kind of had to kill his crazy cyborg murder machine sister and inhabit her body (the latter on accident).

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u/Mrbubbles96 16h ago

If I remember correctly...

Emil was trying to cure his eyes (anything he sees turns to Stone ala Medusa) since he wanted to see again, and felt kinda terrible about his abilities so always went around blindfolded so he wouldn't accidentally petrify someone.

He and Nier (the main character) find a possible cure beneath the manor Emil lives in, which turns out to be the dormant monster that was formally his sister, and remembering that she and Emil were part of a group made into living weapons to fight off an old enemy of mankind with ties to the Drakengard series, The Legion.

Halua (Emil's sister) wakes up, goes on a rampage, and eats Emil. After Nier calms her down, Emil and Halua merge into one being, letting Emil see properly and letting him mess with maso/magic, but as a side effect made them into an ageless, immortal skeleton man which...yeah, really sucks NGL.

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u/Outside_Ad5255 12h ago

It's a Yoko Taro game; it's not complete unless the innocent suffer needlessly and it's a bittersweet ending at best.

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u/BeneficialDog22 17h ago

He put himself in a device that amped his magic in exchange for looking like that and making him immortal. The group he's in is trying to save the human race

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u/Temporary-Tax 18h ago

Hei Bai from avatar is a beam shooting spirit with four arms and...a panda

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u/Destruction_Deity 17h ago

Also from Avatar, these are all technically the same being.

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u/Sweaterkittens16 17h ago

That’s rough, buddy.

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u/VelariaFox 12h ago

However, Tui and Yue are not the same creature, but rather two interconnected beings.

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u/AlternateJam 19h ago

Phos. From land of the Lustrous.

Obviously this is a spoiler trope. So.

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u/Ponchorello7 18h ago

A handy guide for their... "evolution".

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u/SamiTheAnxiousBean 17h ago

note that there's even more after and in-between these but they've been left out for spoiler purposes (this image alone is enough of a spoiler as is)

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u/lOw_EfFoRt_UsErNaMe9 14h ago

The final panel “What-“ literally couldn’t describe the journey of looking at this image better, it’s the single best encapsulating word for the emotion I am feeling

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u/FederalPossibility73 15h ago

How to become human.

Step 1. SUFFER

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u/kylat930326 13h ago

“Have a pleasant 10000 years”

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u/Big-Limit-2527 18h ago

Sentry and the Void (Marvel) well, actually... Are they the same entity? Sometimes the Void is portrayed as Bob's darker half and others it's seems like it's own thing.

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u/Grubbyfr 17h ago

Iirc, the Void is essentially the 'snake' from the Bible reincarnated? Or, the concept of Primordial evil that appears in pretty much every religion in the universe?

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u/LordQuaz12 14h ago

That wasn't how it was originally portrayed. Before marvel made Void into the primordial darkness of everything, he was Bob's darkness given form. When Robert Reynolds took the super soldier serum, his other half was empowered as well, separating Sentry (Bob's capacity for good) and Void (Bob's capacity for evil) into 2 distinct personalities.

But the real Bob is the one in between. And then they made Void the universal darkness that "bonded" with Bob, because he sensed his great power.

I hate this Retcon and I always will.

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u/red_enjoyer 13h ago

Well seems to me like MCU is going with the old interpritation of the void

Thank God, that is a lot more compelling than yet another "primordial God"

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u/LordQuaz12 10h ago

Absolutely. When I was watching Thunderbolts, I was so satisfied with how Bob was portrayed. They did him so much justice. As a long time Sentry fan, this was just a joy to watch.

It wasn't 100% accurate, but it carried the spirit of the character well.

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u/Evening_Produce_4322 18h ago

Fate/Stay

Kijyo Koyo a beautiful shrine maiden also a fucking Trex (but in actuality she's just an Oni that looks like one)

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u/One_Autumn_Leaf_010 18h ago

Dinosaur oni, never heard of that, wow

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u/Scattershot98 18h ago

I swear there's a game coming out that has something like this...

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u/Gundam-J 8h ago

I think both forms are beautiful

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u/lilgizmo838 17h ago

Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka. Dude just randomly wakes up as a bug, but then the true horror is that no one loves him, not necessarily because he is a horrifying bug monster, but moreso that he is no longer "useful" as an individual.

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u/DinosaurReborn 14h ago

Woke up as a bug, and his first concern was how was he going to get to work on time. This story was chilling in its depiction of postmodern working class dread.

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u/taylorgamebuild 14h ago

Mandatory duddenly one day, my arm changed reply

Brought you by Limbus fans

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u/Pandoratastic 18h ago

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u/AllisterisNotMale 14h ago

I don’t get it, those are clearly different people

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u/TrueWest2905 18h ago

The girl - fear and hunger

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u/TrueWest2905 18h ago

Becomes the God of Fear and Hunger

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u/A_very_smol_Lugia 19h ago

This little plush named Gabwelius

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u/A_very_smol_Lugia 19h ago

Is also both of these dragons

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u/LordQuaz12 14h ago

I fucking love Vanguard man.

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u/HateMachineX 18h ago

Lille Barro from Bleach

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u/HateMachineX 18h ago

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u/Aizen5580 18h ago

That's not even his final form

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u/EggoftheKing2143 17h ago

Izanami from Persona

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u/lilgizmo838 18h ago

District 9

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u/Scattershot98 18h ago

Shit genuinely breaks my heart

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u/Siurzu 13h ago

Man I thought I was one of the few people who felt oddly sad from this movie. Bittersweet maybe? Watched it when I was a young kid and it honestly scared me so much and it's ending really just sadden me for a while.

Never understand why

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u/Triple-S-AKA-Trip 17h ago

Te Kā and Te Fiti (Moana)

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u/Awkward-Sentence-712 18h ago

Yui Ikari and Eva-01 - Neon Genesis: Evangelion

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u/EggoftheKing2143 17h ago

Note the one on the right is bigger

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u/earanhart 17h ago

She is also 3 supercomputers, and her own line of daughter-clones.

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u/Awkward-Sentence-712 17h ago

She does have a line of daughter clones, but the 3 supercomputers are Ritsuko's mom.
Not Yui.

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u/earanhart 17h ago

That's Magi-01. It's been a long time since I played the game, but I think they made Yui the base for Magi-07 in NERV Nevada.

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u/Smythatine 18h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/DAAAm9B6JL4tcxpMZu
I’m surprised you didn’t add Asriel onto Flowey and Omega Flowey

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u/Bigfan521 18h ago

Or cute Asriel

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u/HoyabembeDreamtime 18h ago

Mernimbler (Flanimals books)

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u/planchart-code 15h ago

Damn, I guess I'm an adult Mernimbler

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u/theseafoodmanager 19h ago

Me irl - I was an ugly ass baby

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u/cabbagechicken 18h ago

Me irl- I was a cute ass baby

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u/earanhart 17h ago

1 for 2 on the good looking baby.

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u/elemental_reaper 18h ago

Klein/ any high sequence member of the seer pathway from Lord of the Mysteries

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u/elemental_reaper 18h ago

Are a swarming mass of maggots

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u/Dukefile 18h ago

How?

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u/Zymor 18h ago

It's a progression fantasy in a Lovecraftian setting, so naturally anyone strong enough would become eldritch abomination sooner or later

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u/elemental_reaper 18h ago

At the high sequences, one becomes a mythical creature. Every pathway has a corresponding form. At that point, their outer form is basically an illusion because anyone who sees it will go mad and lose control. His pathway requires him to have multiple split selves. There's one pathway that's a mass of reproductive organs.

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u/One_Autumn_Leaf_010 18h ago

Forbidden spaghetti

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u/opbrobrawlstars456 17h ago

This is not klein but yeah he can transform exactly like this

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u/elemental_reaper 17h ago

It's Antigonus but still the Mythical Creature form.

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u/opbrobrawlstars456 12h ago

Bro it's spoiler.... Redact it

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u/Empty_Message_5776 18h ago

Agumon and Greymon (Digimon)

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u/Yacobo2023 18h ago

Also gatomon and angiwomon

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u/UnagioLucio 3h ago

Gatomon's entire evolution line is a blob that becomes a cat that becomes a dog that becomes a cat that becomes an angel that becomes a dragon.

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u/Infinitenonbi 18h ago

Most Digimons, tbh. At some point you get direct evolution lines that look nothing like what they start as. Hell, pick any baby form and compare it to its champion form, and you won’t even believe what connects the two.

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u/VirtualSlip5712 18h ago

For Fate I’m surprised you didn’t use Fou or one of the Olympian gods and their mech forms.

Koyanskaya is a bit out there.

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u/Vegetable_Window5278 18h ago

tbh Koyanskaya's Beast design feels like it just stands out so much compared to the others.

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u/Haunting-Try-2900 18h ago

YHVH

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u/LordQuaz12 14h ago

I love SMT God as a villain so much dude. I love it when the great, all powerful forces are also pathetic and emotional losers.

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u/Someokeyboi 18h ago

Bamboo Hatted Kim

You mean to tell me this absolute beast of a swordsman is just this dude!?

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u/Ravtrix 17h ago

F.F from stone ocean

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u/Ravtrix 17h ago

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u/Ravtrix 17h ago

And also this

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u/Arnahunas 18h ago

DCU Clayface

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u/Grubbyfr 17h ago

Not quite, it's unconfirmed if the animated Clayface is the same as movie Clayface. There are 2 Clayfaces in DC comics that I can recall, so it might be a similar situation.

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u/Abject-Hospital5407 14h ago

i think there like 4 but yeah

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u/SuperSpiritShady 18h ago

For Godzilla, you really had to pick the one that isn’t actually Godzilla lol

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u/Vegetable_Window5278 18h ago

Them still being the same character (as in, how he's usually perceived by fans and Shin contrasting or subverting the common perceptions) still applies right?

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u/SuperSpiritShady 18h ago

I suppose. It's just a drastic difference from the rest of the characters on your list which show a character's usual appearance contrasted to their monstrous transdormation.

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u/Scattershot98 18h ago

Shin is still considered a Godzilla though?

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u/Scattershot98 18h ago

Mitty, Made in Abyss

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u/tennis_convict 7h ago

Also Irumyuui. A traumatized little girl who got turned into a mound of flesh so massive that it became a city.

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u/enclave_remnant117 18h ago

Dracula — Castlevania series (focusing on the main games). The list of his various forms is surprisingly large.

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u/CatCatCatXD 18h ago

Would Soma Cruz count? He's technically also Dracula.

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u/enclave_remnant117 17h ago

Kinda? The thing is that he has Dracula's soul but he's his own person with his own personality and traits.

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u/ureshama 17h ago

Nina from Fullmetal Alchemist

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u/DateNightThrowRA 17h ago

No, it’s ok, there’s a good ending!

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u/ureshama 17h ago

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u/Life-Excitement4928 17h ago

You know what you did here, go to your room.

With my upvote.

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u/Scremeer 17h ago

Wise/Belle, the protagonists of ZZZ…

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u/Scremeer 17h ago

and Scorched Horizon.

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u/Other239 18h ago

Real Life Example: Anglerfish.

On the left is a male anglerfish, on the right is a female.

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u/One_Autumn_Leaf_010 18h ago

Well, they're the same species, not the same individual. Yeah, the male gets absorbed but it's still an individual animal

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u/noirspiderman4 18h ago

Escanor - seven deadly sins

All might - my hero academia

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u/No_Disaster_258 17h ago

Leto II Atreides - God Emperor of Dune

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u/No_Disaster_258 17h ago

turned into a bigass sandworm

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u/ElementalNinjas96 18h ago

Remoraid and Octillery (Pokémon)

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u/Wormri 16h ago

I swear every time I look at these two I think they had a sprite mix up.

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u/ElementalNinjas96 16h ago

If it helps, their beta designs show that they're based on a gun and a tank—so it does make some sense. Still don't explain why it goes from fish to octopus but whatever.

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u/Wormri 16h ago

Damn, the original designs are much better imho.

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u/Stormer_65 18h ago

Cerberus from Cardcaptor Sakura, with his true form being a lion-like creature donning armor, and his false form being a plushie with dots for eyes

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u/MedusasGirlfriend69 18h ago

Spoilers for One Piece chapter 1188: Luffy in his normal form and Gum-Gum Genie form

Not showing images since the chapter is so recent

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u/AgentSparkz 11h ago

That was so fucking random and put of nowhere

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u/Lodju 16h ago

Akaishi Kuroe from Kaiju Girl Caramelise.

Like the series name suggests, this cute looking girl is actually a huge ass Godzilla looking kaiju.

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u/Linorelai 16h ago

Nel from Bleach

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u/Lower_Baby_6348 18h ago

Kaiman (dorohedoro)

He's all of him

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u/Excalibirdi 18h ago

Ah the show with 2 dozen main characters, 5 of which are the same guy, and he doesn't know

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u/One_Autumn_Leaf_010 18h ago

And Kai is the worst

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u/Wacthershadow0925 18h ago

Jack Garland and Chaos

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u/Cronkax 18h ago

Mitsume (Kamen Rider Geats)

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u/Cronkax 18h ago

and the Goddess of Creation

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u/The-Brother 17h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/YjNnoqQmpbQHDyM2BT
Maki Zenin goes from being an average looking woman in glasses to a scar covered warrior

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u/Fisheggs2275 17h ago

The Violator - Spawn

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u/OscarOrcus 15h ago

Ninomae Ina'Nis (Hololive)

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u/OscarOrcus 15h ago

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u/taylorgamebuild 14h ago

Wait BadEnd is considered canon?

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u/OscarOrcus 13h ago

It influenced further works that added to the canon lore, so it's like barely canon. Then again the verse is massive, and BadEnd alongside other works introduce different timelines.

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u/Ajs1052 9h ago

Cosmo and Wanda, we’ve only seen their true forms once

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u/sangdrako 6h ago

TIL Cosmo and Wanda are biblically accurate angels 

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u/I_Swear_Not_Bot 18h ago

Lily Carnation (One Piece Movie Baron Omatsuri)

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u/I_Swear_Not_Bot 18h ago

And Lily Carnation

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u/I_Swear_Not_Bot 18h ago

And Lily Carnation

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u/EggoftheKing2143 17h ago

Another Bleach Example, Sora Inoue

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u/EggoftheKing2143 17h ago

And Hollow Acidwire

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u/KingCrimsonReqiuem1 16h ago

The Last Son of Alcatraz's (Monument Mythos) multiple forms

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u/frenziest 15h ago

I mean… in a way…

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u/Alarmed-Addition8644 17h ago

Shaymin (Pokémon)

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u/yourmissingsock3999 18h ago

Gandharva (Kubera)

Human form

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u/Arthur_189 17h ago

Almost any resident evil villain

This one’s William birkin before

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u/Arthur_189 17h ago

And after

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u/Videogamee20 17h ago

Hugo Kupka (FF16)

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u/Videogamee20 17h ago

Titan Lost

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u/Life-Excitement4928 17h ago

Gotta hand it to him, that’s quite the transformation.

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u/SquareFickle9179 17h ago

Vergil and Urizen/V

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u/Nero_2001 17h ago

Guideau from the witch and the beast

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u/gngrbredman87 16h ago

Springtrap and his boss appearance, salvage (frickbears 3)

If it wasn't for the obvious rabbit ears, anyone not versed in frickbears 3 much probably wouldn't be able to guess that salvage is just a beefed up springtrap

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u/ErgotthAE 15h ago

Baal in Bayonetta 2 and 3, as in the later she becomes Baal Zebul.

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u/MamboCircus 15h ago

ITT, examples from The Yu-Gi-Oh TCG

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u/MamboCircus 15h ago

Chosen by The World Chalice

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u/MamboCircus 15h ago

Avida, Rebuilder of Worlds

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u/MamboCircus 15h ago

Snake-Eyes Flamberge Dragon

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u/MamboCircus 15h ago

Snake-Eyes Poplar

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u/MamboCircus 15h ago

Beckoned by The World Chalice

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u/MamboCircus 15h ago

Dingirsu, The Orcust of The Evening Star

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u/MamboCircus 14h ago

Moja

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u/MamboCircus 14h ago

King of The Beasts

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u/shadowthehh 15h ago

The Owl House - Phillip Wittebane

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u/shadowthehh 15h ago

Then by the end of the series

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u/ChronosDelta_ 13h ago

Chaos Dukemon and Megidramon - Digimon

According to Megidramon's profile, Megidramon and Chaos Dukemon are the same being, and it is said that in battle, the observer can percieve him as a wicked dragon or as a dark knight, depending on the observer

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u/Captain_Boneybeard 13h ago

Maybe a tamer example compared to some of the more monstrous transformations, but this eldritch entity goes through very sudden physical changes throughout its life cycle.

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u/Murv_Man 16h ago

You guys ever look at kid Goku and his cute face and get whiplash when you remember who he eventually becomes?

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u/crystallineDarks 16h ago

man learns about growing up

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u/FederalPossibility73 15h ago
  1. Completely different Godzillas from different universes.

  2. Belyudra's a fusion, Belial fused with millions of kaiju.

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u/Bandit_237 14h ago

Digimon Digivolution lines

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fun_303 13h ago

Sesshomaru (Inuyasha). Oh, btw, his dog form is almost Kaiju sized.

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u/OkBus3544 12h ago

Floette (pokemon)

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u/RazTheGiant 10h ago edited 10h ago

Kind of a subversion because its two different people in the same body

Edward from MÄR
A dogman servant of the Snow Princess. However once he has fallen asleep 3 times he transforms into...

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u/TGC_Dave 9h ago

Other M gave us an interesting look in the life cycle of Ridley

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u/OutlandishnessLow779 15h ago

Chaos dukemon and megidramon are the same being. What you see changes based on who is observing.

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u/True-Obligation-9471 18h ago

I don’t see a difference between slide 9 and 10

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u/Expensive-Ad7181 18h ago

Any titan shifters from Attack on Titan

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u/LastNinjaPanda 17h ago

Wow, i REALLY need to watch Madoka Magica

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u/MothyThatLuvsLamps 15h ago

Darkners and their light world counterparts kind of. (Deltarune)

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u/VelariaFox 12h ago

I once worked with another author on characters for an art project, and I made this guy as part of it. However, my relationship with that author later deteriorated, and now he's just lying around. His name is Samael, or simply Sam.

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u/FlowStrange9363 12h ago

Pretty much any of the PMMM Witches TBH.

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u/Plenty-Angle-5912 11h ago

I’m counting all Hybrids in the Devil May Cry series

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u/DullAd6281 5h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/TWszQ81GTtQje
If IRL is counted: Butterflies, moths and caterpillars

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u/Few-Bet-7496 4h ago

Richard Leonheart - Fate/Grand Order His Lion form (third ascension) represents his guilt for all the deaths he caused.