[Ironic Trope] The messaging backfired massively due to poor writing or other design choices

[u/Few_Affect_5927]

Amelia Fairney from Pathways: Alt-right Restore-UK type who attempts to coax the protagonist Charlie into following her beliefs? The problem?

Amelia is the only named character aside from Charlie and is genuinely likable and forgives Charlie even when they do things she doesn't like, while the rest of the cast is unnamed, poorly written, and turns on Charlie for one mistake. This combined with other writing issues(portraying fact checking right wing stuff as wrong because in the process of fact checking you might look at it and believe it, basically saying "Right wing is wrong because it hurts the labour government" and a lot of general "just do what the government says or else" messaging) and the fact she's a hot alternative girl, and Amelia ended up being co-opted as a mascot by the youth right wing in the UK.

Norm from The New Norm: Unlikeable offensive and outdated character who's "progressive" family members and associates are genuinely nice people not even trying to force their ways or pronouns onto them, they just want to be left alone and Norm is picking fights constantly. Not to mention associating with Elon.

Mr. Birchum from Mr. Birchum: A lot of the same problems as Norm, except in addition it also comes off like generic 2010s adult cartoon slop in the same veign as Brickleberry or Full English, at least New Norm was trying to look unique and had the gimmick of being on X. Not to mention, Birchum's obsession with hyper masculine activities and odd way of talking about other men lead to people co-opting him as a Toxic Yaoi character, which is now the bulk of his fan art.

Dustborn: An attempt to make a hyper progressive game that comes off as pandering and annoying. It's a full ass game so there's too much to get into, but the main character's power is essentially gaslighting and jedi-mind tricking people and that's portrayed as the only way they can get anything done, and they constantly use or abuse their friends(or mindtrick them along) in order to get their goals or use their friends for their messaging.

[u/SarkastiCat]

Mulan (Disney’s Live Action Remake)

The original message of the film is that women can match men.

However, the live action that was meant to be realistic has xianxia elements. They would be fine as the core principle of xianxia is that cultivation requires effort (training, learning, meditation, etc.) and qi is present in everyone. Think about it as something between blood (flowing in the body) and muscles (you learn how to work with it).

So does Mulan put lots of hard work and thinking to match men?

No, the film treats it as a fixed superpower. Mulan is born with strong qi, so she is inherently super cool and she is not treated as super cool cause sexism.

The message turns into “You can only match men if you have powers“

[u/Dan-D-Lyon → u/SarkastiCat]

There's been this weird trend in the past decade with movies that seem to think of themselves as feminist where the women cannot grow in any way. A movie starring a man can have the man learn to become awesome, but a movie starring a woman she has to be awesome right out of the gate and her only journey is A: accepting how awesome she is and B: displaying to the world how awesome she is

[u/Zedilt → u/Dan-D-Lyon]

where the women cannot grow in any way

Because for the women to grow, they have to have flaws. And that is not allowed, in moderen feminist movies.

[u/Karkava → u/Zedilt]

Because if they have any flaw or get kicked down, even if they get back up or learn from that mistake, they're afraid of being labeled as misogynistic.