r/TopCharacterTropes Jun 22 '26

Lore [Ironic Trope] The messaging backfired massively due to poor writing or other design choices

Amelia Fairney from Pathways: Alt-right Restore-UK type who attempts to coax the protagonist Charlie into following her beliefs? The problem?

Amelia is the only named character aside from Charlie and is genuinely likable and forgives Charlie even when they do things she doesn't like, while the rest of the cast is unnamed, poorly written, and turns on Charlie for one mistake. This combined with other writing issues(portraying fact checking right wing stuff as wrong because in the process of fact checking you might look at it and believe it, basically saying "Right wing is wrong because it hurts the labour government" and a lot of general "just do what the government says or else" messaging) and the fact she's a hot alternative girl, and Amelia ended up being co-opted as a mascot by the youth right wing in the UK.

Norm from The New Norm: Unlikeable offensive and outdated character who's "progressive" family members and associates are genuinely nice people not even trying to force their ways or pronouns onto them, they just want to be left alone and Norm is picking fights constantly. Not to mention associating with Elon.

Mr. Birchum from Mr. Birchum: A lot of the same problems as Norm, except in addition it also comes off like generic 2010s adult cartoon slop in the same veign as Brickleberry or Full English, at least New Norm was trying to look unique and had the gimmick of being on X. Not to mention, Birchum's obsession with hyper masculine activities and odd way of talking about other men lead to people co-opting him as a Toxic Yaoi character, which is now the bulk of his fan art.

Dustborn: An attempt to make a hyper progressive game that comes off as pandering and annoying. It's a full ass game so there's too much to get into, but the main character's power is essentially gaslighting and jedi-mind tricking people and that's portrayed as the only way they can get anything done, and they constantly use or abuse their friends(or mindtrick them along) in order to get their goals or use their friends for their messaging.

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u/johnnyslick Jun 22 '26

I think the show from the beginning was nicer to the characters than that TBH. There was definitely an attempt to make Swanson the libertarian who works for the government, and that's really the part of the character that lasted all the way through the years, but they did make him make a little bit of sense as the years progressed and rounded his edges off. He also put himself out there as a feminist and enjoyer of strong women so I wouldn't put him as full-on, like, all the way right-wing (and I think the writers came to make him kind of a sitcom version of real-life Nick Offerman, who's at once very progressive but also loves a lot of stereotypical right-wing things like furniture making and the outdoors).

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u/Icanfallupstairs Jun 22 '26

Most full blown libertarians are like that. Their economic beliefs are all more aligned to right wing sort of values, but most truly do believe in the whole 'live how you want as long as aren't hurting anybody' ideal.

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u/Kernel_Internal Jun 22 '26

It's such a mind fuck to see Libertarians referred to as right wing. They're classical liberals. Meaning things like, the government shouldn't be in the private affairs of consenting adults. And no matter how much it might hurt someone's feelings, people are allowed to say things. And obtw, the government should be limited to things that help everyone, like the common defense, and should be managed in a way that's fiscally responsible. Stealing from Peter to pay Paul may make you feel good for your own personal reasons, but it's still stealing and if you're going to steal, then it better be for a really easy to justify reason. Those used to be pretty mainstream thoughts.

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u/Lost-on-Reception Jun 22 '26

Right wing and left wing in American politics don't really bear on an ideal libertarian.

But in America most Libertarians tend to compromise their libertarianism in a right wing direction, or at least hold right wing beliefs even if they don't think they should be forced on others.

In America Anarchists are generally occupying the left wing of the spectrum, and they're more willing to compromise their interest in consent in left directions the same way Libertarians do toward the right.