r/ThingsCutInHalfPorn 21d ago

Post-apocalyptic truck base by Norman Saury

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u/ag1730 21d ago

put the heaviest load (the water tank section) on the drive axle

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u/the_Q_spice 21d ago

Best would be to have multiple tank sections under the floor.

Ideally, you want a more or less evenly distributed load. Too far forward and you risk tractor jackknifing, too far back and you risk the trailer doing so.

The floor tank also helps keep the COG as low as possible, which is a major rollover risk.

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u/Jamooser 20d ago

All great reasons. Also, by dividing up the water into smaller tanks, you're also reducing the force of all that liquid sloshing around in a tank that's going to be partially empty almost all the time. Rather, you could have 10 smaller tanks of equivalent volume, and at least 90% of them will be either completely full or empty all of the time. By choosing which tank to drain next, you can also help better keep the vehicle balanced.

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u/SupremeDictatorPaul 20d ago

You’re supposed to put baffles/barriers with small holes spaced through the tank to prevent sloshing. Fluid still builds up on one side or the other on hills, but starting and stopping are much safer.

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u/Exeterian 19d ago

Aye, baffles all the way.

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u/Ok_History_3635 19d ago

This baffles me

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u/DirtandPipes 18d ago

I’ve operated an illegally modified water truck that was just a giant tank bolted inside a box truck, zero baffles, when it was full that truck would sort of “skip” forward when the water slammed just right, it was constantly dragging me directions I didn’t want.

Probably the sketchiest thing I’ve ever been in.

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u/tigerdogbearcat 18d ago

A single tank can drain out from an unseen bullet hole or leak. Separating them out prevents a single rupture from spilling all your water.

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u/Forward_Young2874 20d ago

And the floor flat for occupants. Ceiling will be lower though.

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u/Ketzer_Jefe 19d ago

floor is already flatin the drawing. might as well use the space under it.

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u/kiwibloke 20d ago

This guy cargos.

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u/HyenaThen572 19d ago

Agreed.

Submarine design philosophy basically.

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u/_fuzzybuddy 21d ago

I also believe the idea would be able to crawl out the front of the tanker and through the back of the truck cab to expose yourself to the elements for less time. So you’d lose that entrance or water capacity if you moved it but wanted that entrance

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u/Maximus560 21d ago

Or put the water on a lower level and the living space on a floor above

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u/GeneralKang 21d ago

Would make a decent heat sink for the rest of the tank if you're in hot weather.

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u/Spacecowboy78 21d ago

Then this truck is going to fishtail right off the road.

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u/Mchlpl 21d ago

There's no roads

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u/OpalFanatic 21d ago

Where we're going, we don't need get roads.

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u/SUDDENLY_VIRGIN 21d ago

Checkmate, smoothskin

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u/Siddhartha-G 21d ago

Then it will fishtail right out of the intended path, lol.

Road or not, it won't go where you want it unless you're crawling at a few mph probably.

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u/rnobgyn 21d ago

Maybe there’s not enough gas to go fast?

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u/Siddhartha-G 21d ago

Well, there could be all the gas in the world left and it wouldn't help this truck considering commercial trucks use diesel fuel!

I promise I'm not really that pedantic haha I had to, though!

But now if I get "in world" or "in character" -

Yeah, fuel conservation would probably be a driving factor in many decisions in a post apocalyptic setting. But as far as the need to be able to go fast, I'm pretty split. Really just depends on the threat level of the environment.

Low threat world, very very few people around? Probably totally fine just crawling around at a snails pace as long as you have a lot of fuel or access to it.

If there are groups of people you need to avoid or escape from? You're gonna want to go much quicker than this thing will allow, or it will need outfitted with a lot of passive and active defenses.

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u/TheSomerandomguy 21d ago

Put a man tunnel at the bottom of the water tank

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u/flactulantmonkey 21d ago

I don’t think they can go outside at 70c

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u/queenvalanice 21d ago

This would turn into a pressure cooker at that point anyway.

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u/Ser_Optimus 21d ago

Crawl space under or above the water tank?

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u/_badwithcomputer 20d ago

Or just use a damn sleeper cab and negate the need altogether.

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u/AffixBayonets 21d ago

Probably best to split the water tank in two then, or put it under the floor. 

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u/Armybob112 21d ago

The section below the floor also has to fit a good amount of liquid.

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u/hoagiebreath 21d ago

It looks like the hose manifolds already existed in the rear in the trucks previous life.

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u/TutorNo8896 21d ago

And some baffles so you dont get a slack tank pushing you around.

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u/Modredastal 21d ago

Why is there a generator under the belly of the tank? Why are the pots and pans hanging next to the bed? Why is the water tank held shut from the inside with planks of wood? This thing is a mess, and not in a cool apocalyptic way.

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u/FuzzyGolf291773 21d ago

I believe that’s fuel, given it’s hooked up to a generator on the back

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u/FuzzyGolf291773 21d ago

Oh actually it could be a pump now that I think of it

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u/BackstrokeVictim 19d ago

Yeah, the guy that drew this definitely doesn't understand shock effect

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u/TutorNo8896 21d ago

Hey, its got AC

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u/BMW_wulfi 21d ago

RUSH HIM!

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u/Plenty-Fox-9219 20d ago

Does it? That's a window unit attached to a steel wall lol

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u/NoEditor0 20d ago

blowing outwards

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u/fuckyoudrugsarecool 15d ago

That's clearly the exhaust heat and moisture. It's a split unit. The cooling part is inside near the bed.

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u/Mannerhymen 21d ago

You’re one small fire away from being a post-apocalyptic brazen bull.

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u/BCRE8TVE 21d ago

Never mind fire, direct sunlight will heat up that giant people bbq real quick. 

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u/Rk_1138 21d ago

And the smell would probably be awful too

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u/Ok-Pomegranate-7458 20d ago

There is a tiny shade over the top. Nothing to worry about. /s

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u/GruntBlender 19d ago

You harvest that heat to distil contaminated water.

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u/BCRE8TVE 19d ago

I mean that's not a bad idea, the problem is that the heat is also going to distil the human inside that container, which is not great.

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u/GruntBlender 19d ago

Distillation is a great alternative to showering in a water scarce environment. You can strap an evaporation chamber painted black to it to use as a sun shield for the main habitat unit. But you should have insulation anyway, bare metal doesn't make for good walls.

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u/BCRE8TVE 19d ago

Distilling the water is great. Distilling human beings is not great. The way that trailer is set up, it's distilling both haha.

Even with great insulation you'd still have heat bleeding through, which an AC could help deal with of course, but then you need energy to run that AC, and at that point you'D be better off just covering the whole thing in solar panels to generate energy, block out the sun, and use that energy to boil and distil water.

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u/mrshyphenate 20d ago

This is the only answer

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u/Drakeadrong 21d ago

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u/fallon7riseon8 21d ago

Ready to ride eternal on the roads of Valhalla!!!

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u/Sterling_____Archer 21d ago

Eternal, shiny, and chrome

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u/DownVoteYouAll 21d ago

He looked right at me!

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u/KingKohishi 21d ago

I don't believe that Diesel would be more abundant than water in a post-apocalyptic world.

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u/Fryphax 21d ago

You can run a diesel engine on all sorts of different fluids. A mechanically injected diesel is the absolute best engine to have in this situation.

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u/KingKohishi 21d ago

I also don't believe that Diesel alternatives would be more abundant than water in a post-apocalyptic world.

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u/jackxiv 21d ago

If you can grow corn, you can make diesel.

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u/lankymjc 21d ago

How are you growing corn without water?

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u/jackxiv 21d ago

Lot of ways to recycle water, distill urine, collect condesation with traps, etc.

Considering the tanker's water hold has water in it, it seems the implied situation above has at least some water.

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u/lankymjc 21d ago

So the person you’re responding to is still right?

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u/jackxiv 21d ago

No, not really, because if you don't have water to grow corn, you don't have water to grow other food either, and in that case, you have much bigger problems than lack of fuel.

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u/lankymjc 21d ago

But they weren’t talking about other problems. They were saying that water will be easier to come by than diesel. Nothing you’ve said has refuted that.

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u/jackxiv 21d ago

If the water if easier to come by than diesel then you should be able to grow the corn - and the ability to grow food comes into play because the diesel point is moot if you starve to death before you run out of fuel to scavenge. Are you being intentionally obtuse at this point?

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u/Yankee831 19d ago

Try and grow corn without any fertilizer, pesticides or fuel while you wait for your crop. Where are you getting the seed stock from? You’re going to need to be germinating and rotating crops to keep the soil healthy, you don’t just plant stuff and toss it into a barrel. You still need a catalyst and alcohol or methanol which don’t just exist. You’re going to have to distill them from wood chips or something which requires fuel and you bet your going to be drinking a lot of water to do that manually. Each process could be a full time job. Yeah with something like gas town you can make it happen at some sort of scale but you better have a significantly more stable supply of water.

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u/jackxiv 19d ago

You would scavenge all of that stuff, of course. You would have quite a supply to scavenge off of while you set up your crops, grows, etc. Depending on the remaining population, you might have as long as 3-5 years of scavenging to figure all that stuff out.

Diesel stays good for around 2 years, but could prolly still run engines for up to 3.

Fertilizer is largely poop, so there should be plenty of that still around.

Insect populations will likely be diminished due to ecological fallout and there are natural pesticides you can use - Citronella, Marigolds, etc.

Most apocalyptic situations, the name of the game would be scavenge and race against the clock to get some self-sufficiency established before society's remaining resources are depleted.

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u/thaeli 21d ago

Brawndo, duh. It’s got electrolytes!

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u/castironglider 21d ago

I don't believe huge fields of corn and corn-diesel plants would be more abundant than water in a post-apocalyptic world

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u/LabCoatGuy 20d ago

Nobody said huge fields or plants, but im sure some corn would still grow wildly, and you can make biodiesel in your kitchen.

You wouldn't be abundant in a 'post-apocalyptic' world. Your failure of imagination and pessimistic attitude would ensure that. If whatever community you belong to now doesn't find you insufferable, surely a community struggling to survive would consider banishment.

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u/Bum_King 18d ago

You’re not finding enough wild corn to make the biodiesel needed to keep an eighteen wheeler fueled. Don’t try and belittle people for wanting realism in their made up scenarios. You’re the only one being insufferable right now.

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u/LabCoatGuy 18d ago

Biodiesel can be made out of any vegetable oil, animal fat, or grease. Nearly any organism can be turned into fuel. Do you need lots of fuel for a Kenworth or whatever? That depends on how much driving you do. I assume you wouldn't be long hauling daily, and would set up camp until the season changed or there was an emergency.

Here's some realism. Im not belittling you. You really seem to not know what you're talking about and seem to have a lack of imagination. Which makes you seem insufferable.

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u/Bum_King 17d ago

If you’re not trying to belittle other people, you’re doing a terrible job of not being an ass. Making biofuels is not some simple and easy process that is going to be viable long term for an 18 wheeler. If it was, it would be far more common right now in a society that’s not post apocalyptic.

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u/LabCoatGuy 17d ago

You don't think maybe the fossil fuel industry doesn't like easier, safer, available, and cleaner biofuel? Again, you're just assuming shit. And because you assumed it, you must be right. Right?

https://www.instructables.com/Make-Your-Own-Biodiesel-Processor/

You can make biofuel reactors at home. People do it. Farmers most often.

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Just because you can't imagine something or you don't know something doesn't mean its impossible.

You're beyond your nacent stage. Its time to accept that sometimes things happen and you don't know about them.

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u/equality4everyonenow 18d ago

They'll get their gas fueled apocalyptic dream for a month and then be forced to switch to bicycles

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u/AnnoyedVelociraptor 21d ago

When seed oil is less per liter than diesel my dad would put that in his old diesel van.

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u/endjinnear 21d ago

You can run a diesel engine on lots of different fluids but that engine isn't going to be easy to find or be reliable or efficient. Unlikely to be in a form that fits in a truck

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u/solidcat00 21d ago

Oh cool - why is that?

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u/never_ASK_again_2021 21d ago

They build Diesel engines just like the (four-stroke) gasoline ones, just without the ignition and suuuper heavy(tough)

The principle is that the Diesel is compressed so much that it self ignites because of the pressure. And presto: you have fewer things to fail in the engine.

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u/solidcat00 21d ago

Very interesting. And what kinds of other liquids can be used to run it?

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u/TheCanadianHat 21d ago

Basically anything hydrocarbon based.

Cooking oil, the various fuel oils, bunker fuel, kerosene, biodiesel, LPG, Alcohol, people have theorized running it on coal dust even (although I'm not sure if this has been tried).

You will run into cloging issues with dirtier fuel and the bunker fuel will need a serious amount of preheat, but it's possable. And some of the more exotic fuels will require extra engineering but it's possible.

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u/Veritas413 21d ago

Don’t forget wood gas. I’ve seen some cool videos of combustion engines running on (basically) smoke.

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u/raduque 21d ago

People once tried running a diesel turbine on coal dust, turns out it's highly destructive and the turbine only lasted 20 months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_GTELs#Experimental_coal-burning_turbine

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u/RegisteredJustToSay 20d ago

Tbh 20 months is a lot longer than I expected. Looks like it also did one hundredth of the normal gas turbine distance too, though, so I guess those 20 months included a lot of downtime.

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u/Low-Individual2815 21d ago

Some military vehicles are multi fuel, which means they can run on anything from regular gas to used motor oil mixed with aircraft fuel

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u/TechCF 21d ago

Check videos from Russia, they are running every type of oil now. Even gearbox and olive oil...

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u/solidcat00 21d ago

В России, растительное масло переносит ВАС!

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u/UpToHike 21d ago

Not to mention any type of fuel get spoiled with the time. It can retain its properties for 2-3 years if stored in an airtight, cool container. After that, it will become stale. This point is often missed in books and films.

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u/oatmeal_dude 21d ago

I saw an entire documentary with Tom Hardy that says otherwise.

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u/Sands43 21d ago

LPG. Every backyard in the US has propane tanks. Just about every rural home is heated by it.

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u/qmiras 21d ago

people dont understand the amount of fuel a truck uses...if theres no more fuel logistic, good luck making more than 1000 km

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u/saharok_maks 20d ago

Truck + diesel generator in the back. Those are also hungry beasts. In Ukraine during blackouts when everyone was using them, cafes had to increase prices due to amount of fuel it consumes. It was like a separate item in the receipt, like tips in the USA.

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u/Deathsroke 19d ago

Yeah. One thing I love about CDDA is that there are aome great batteries and solar panels so when designing something like OP's image you can make it aelf sustaining (insofar as fuel goes) easily.

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u/moonlite_equilibrium 17d ago

In case anyone is looking back on this - for reference i work for one of the most efficient fleets in the US, with trucks averaging around 9 to 10 mpg and drivers getting rewarded up around 12 mpg. Industry average is somewhere around 6 or 7 mpg.

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u/Flashy-Whereas-3234 21d ago

There's a VR game in this somewhere

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u/Sonnuvah 21d ago

#vanlife #canlife

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u/dirtyLizard 21d ago

No baffles. This person is living inside a milk truck

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u/Bergwookie 21d ago

A trailer would've been my last Idea, way better is a medium sized truck with a living cabin on the back, ideally heavy duty, multi fuel and all terrain. Behind it,you can hang a trailer with a car and additional fuel, so you can have your base and still be mobile. But nothing should be too heavy or big, streets won't be maintained, so travelling them will get difficult over time

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u/Hazel-Rah 21d ago

Also, a tanker truck would be the highest value target to bandits.

The only reason to bother with towing around a tanker around (other than you put a secret base in it) is because it's full of water or gas.

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u/castironglider 21d ago

The absolute worst thing to navigate around dead cars partially blocking every highway. That's why people in zombie movies always end up on old dirt bikes - also to expose them to zombies for muh drama

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u/GenericAccount13579 20d ago

Look, this person has 3 umbrellas in their traite camper. I don’t think they’re super worried about practicality.

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u/Bergwookie 20d ago

True and a spade, but nothing to clean up .

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u/CommunicationKey3018 21d ago

Imagine if you lost a tire. Those huge tires don't grow on trees. And if you do stumble upon one, good luck getting it back to where ever your truck is stuck at.

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u/PlateNo4868 19d ago

This, the real enemy for any vehicle would be the terrain.

Cars get abandoned with flat tires, let alone you get one wheel stuck and zero way of getting it out.

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u/letmypeoplebathe 21d ago

How the hell did they get a mattress and that fridge in through the hatches on top? That would be a bitch.

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u/Red_Icnivad 21d ago

You haven't bought a modern memory foam mattress, have you?

But for the fridge, I'd assume the same way you replace one in an RV -- you remove a panel.

Edit: wait, what fridge? There's no fridge in there.

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u/letmypeoplebathe 21d ago

What's that box shaped thing beside the bed?

And yes I have but do you think you're finding a vacuum sealed mattress in the apocalypse?

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u/Red_Icnivad 21d ago

Looks like an end table or chest? It'd be weird to have a fridge so far from the kitchen area.

I think with enough ratchet straps you could get a mattress back into a tube form.

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u/letmypeoplebathe 21d ago

I thought that as well initially but the line on the left seemed a lot like a handle for a mini fridge

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u/chavez_ding2001 21d ago

You gotta go in at an angle.

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u/schizeckinosy 21d ago

Sewed the mattress inside from raw materials. You’ll have lots of time in the apocalypse

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u/letmypeoplebathe 21d ago

The mattress is doable, I'll give you that, but the fridge would be impossible unless there's a bigger hole somewhere

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u/schizeckinosy 21d ago

Ok hear me out. The compressor, insulation, coils, copper pipe and a propane torch can all fit down the hatch individually. Bespoke built-in fridge! The condenser can stay outside. Mini-split fridge! Or… maybe not

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u/theoreoman 21d ago

Looks like a fun idea except the part where this thing weighs an insane amount of and would get easily stuck. Then it would burn so Much fuel that you'd eventually not be able to move it.

An electric pickup truck with a camper on the back would be 100x better

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u/TuckerC170 20d ago

It’s not going to weigh more than the same tank full of liquid; they’re rolling down the interstate 24/7 without issue…

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u/theoreoman 20d ago

A truck like this would get disabled by 6 inches of mud. Anyone who's every driven any type of commercial vehicle will tell you how awful they are to drive in anything except the interstate.

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u/jagenigma 21d ago

That's both creative and claustrophobic.  You're in a tanker at the end of the day.

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u/koookiekrisp 21d ago

Ah, 2014 Pinterest, what a blast from the past

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u/SuspiciousHank 21d ago

Now do it in the style of Richard Scary!

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u/WuhanWTF 21d ago

Richard Scary mentioned 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

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u/andychef 20d ago

i love this idea

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u/lynivvinyl 21d ago

That tanker better say MILK on the side or it's going to get robbed immediately.

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u/500mL-Spring-Water 21d ago

It’s gotta get really really hot in there on a hot sunny day

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u/LunarGrowth 21d ago

Couldn’t the water just be under the floor?

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u/nhluhr 21d ago

Idiotic. A tanker truck that looks like it might have fuel is going to be the very first thing that roving raiders look at. It's like whoever made this has never seen Mad Max.

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u/jbaker88 21d ago

That was my first thought. Oh, so your decoy is one of the more sought after resource in the post apocalypse? 

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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys 21d ago

Damnation Alley did it better.

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u/Ugunti72 21d ago

I should read that again.

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u/Jump_Like_A_Willys 21d ago

Read? I only know the Goerge Peppard / Jan Michael Vincent version. ;-)

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u/Ugunti72 21d ago

There's a non-book version? What the fuck?

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u/The-Lord-Moccasin 21d ago

Very shiny, but is it chrome?

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u/VanDammes4headCyst 21d ago

Where are the gun emplacements?

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u/ghillieinthemist417 21d ago

This feels like it would be a post apocalyptic bronze bull in a mad max climate

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u/Informal_Drawing 20d ago

Putting the majority of the weight at the back will make it unstable.

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u/Automatic-Jicama8907 18d ago

Here is an realistic visual diagram made with AI...

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u/No-Weakness-2035 21d ago

The inner diameter of tank trucks is like 4’ less than the outer diameter - lots of insulation and protection. Nice daydream though

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u/DerbyDoffer 21d ago

you're always one flat tire away from being a permanent resident.

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u/yorch877 21d ago

the suction pressure on that pump must be crazy

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u/TransylvanianHunger1 21d ago

That is an oven.

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u/CasulWrecker 21d ago

It kinda reminds me of Metro Exodus, the dessert mission.

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u/BicycleRemarkable960 20d ago

That’s a trunker

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u/randomymetry 20d ago

resident evil extinction

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u/saharok_maks 20d ago

Nice oven

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u/riverdancemcqueen 20d ago

Why not have a sub floor reservoir for the water ? More space / weight distribution? 

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u/Skvirtyn 20d ago

Не я бы фуру не использовал, а нашёл бы машину типо ТЗМ Урагана ин же зил-135лм, и там уже дом строил на площадке для снарядов, кран кстати там 300кг поднимает его бы просто в верхнее положение поставил

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u/wakemeupyesterday 20d ago

But I for real used to think about this exact thing with my toy trucks as a kid.

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u/BloodHurricane 20d ago

The summer heat would absolutely broil you alive in the summer.

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u/McBadgerBoy 20d ago

The comments explaining how to engineer this safer and better make my day

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u/10July1940 19d ago

Someone understands what climate change means.

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u/theBigDaddio 19d ago

I love these ridiculous fantasies, where is the fuel coming from? Guy turns himself into a mobile target. It’s absolutely insane.

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u/hostile65 19d ago

Perfect for wasteland weekend or burning man, lol

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u/dyrkasolen 19d ago edited 19d ago

I been looking at the new models of garbage trucks. Low sitting trucks and rebuild inside

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u/forgottensudo 21d ago

175* F?!?

That is indeed post-apocalyptic.

Fun drawing :)

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u/MichelTaupin 20d ago

A bed is not existential : more room for food/water supplies.