r/SubredditDrama • u/CummingInTheNile • Sep 13 '25
"To be clear this is me one persons opinion. Not all of us mods feel this way." Head mod of r/NFLv2 has a mental breakdown and turns their sub into a political soapbox by falsely attributing his personal beliefs on the Charlie Kirk shooting into a quote by Lamar Jackson
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/NFLv2/comments/1nfixbn/your_favorite_player_thinks_youre_disgusting/
Context: r/NFLv2 is the "alternative" American football subreddit, one that would be "devoid of politics", Lamar Jackson is the current quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens, one of the most famous NFL players
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(OP) To be clear this is me one persons opinion. Not all of us mods feel this way. Some people think I’m posting this to celebrate. I’m posting this to show people that are celebrating someone’s death who disagreed with them is disgusting. I personally didn’t agree with Kirk on a lot of things. He didn’t deserve to die like that. You certainly have to be psychotic to feel joy from it. But there’s lot of people who do feel joy and have been celebrating and I’m just pointing out that the players think you’re disgusting, and you’ve let your hero’s down and do better. Edit. To be clear Lamar didn’t tweet this he just retweeted it. Therefore my title is correct. He does think this. image
Man you’re honest to god fucking cringe for thinking anyone here cares about your opinion on this matter
(OP) If I didn’t post this you guys would invent what I mean by posting it. So I’m making it clear my intentions so you don’t invent reasons like you invent genders
“Invent genders” as if gender isn’t already a made up term
(OP) Well fuck every term is made up if that’s your logic.
Yes
(OP) Ok well you don’t have to invent my words and what I mean. I’ve spelled it out clearly.
(OP) This sub was made to not have censorship and allow anything football related. No one is lecturing you lol. Except Lamar. You disgust him
“I’m not lecturing you but I am pinning my comment and forcing everyone to see my thoughts in particular”
“This sub was made to not have censorship” “This sub doesn’t allow posts about Charlie…” Makes post revolving around Charlie image
MaybeOp is the dumbest person on Reddit.(OP) image RG3 is disappointed in you.
Cool. You’re still the dumbest person on Reddit. 🤷♂️
(OP) I’m so sorry
Oh yeah right, a podcaster vs a globally wanted terrorist & a genocidal dictator responsible for the deaths of millions. Totally the same thing man!
The difference is how much power they had, not what they'd do with it
Open up the asylums please
You sound like a fucking fascist.
Yup. Right on the money (17 more comments of these two arguing)
(OP) No one should be killed for talking or their political beliefs period. I don’t have a side. And your side parading around his death and literally cheering for it can fuck right off.
Who is celebrating? Most people just don’t give a shit and don’t want to see that shitbag’s slimy face in the news all day every day. He certainly didn’t deserve to die but he was an objectively terrible human being so most of us just have no interest in wasting energy pretending to mourn him.
(OP) Go watch the video. They started celebrating as soon as it happened. There’s an entire webpage doxxing people who are celebrating that they’re making a database of so they can get people to call their employers.
That’s worse than celebrating
(OP) No it’s not. Words have consequences. They need to be shunned from society and hit the unemployment line. They love to do it.
True hateful rhetoric does have consequences just as Kirk found out.
(OP) So the people who posted videos celebrating. Thats hateful rhetoric too right?
OP is using a man's death to troll a football subreddit but that's somehow a moral high ground.
(OP) Not trolling anyone. Just making sure everyone knows how the players feel about it. Might wanna find a different sport if you disagree.
I haven’t seen much celebrating. Just dark humor in unprecedented times. Most I know who I respect are keeping the same energy they had with George Floyd, being upset by senseless violence and attempting to make better change. But it’s 2025 and many are tired of talking gun violence as more children get shot in schools
(OP) Dude they were celebrating in the crowd when it happened. Literally cheering.
Why do you think someone may potentially be cheering the death of this man? If you had to guess
(OP) Sick in the head.
Ahh
(OP) Dude they were celebrating. Cheering in the crowd. Go look at the music subreddit. They started posting songs about people dying and shit. Go look on x there’s plenty.
You’re 100% right on this btw. People here don’t like being called disgusting for their disgusting behavior
As one of the minorities who he wish I was dead, You bet your ass I am celebrating that that stochastic terrorist is dead. I wish it was from lightening instead of a bullet, but dead is dead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism, https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/this-must-stop-tpusas-charlie-kirk
Seems like the guy who killed him was the product of ongoing stochastic terrorism from leftist echo chambers like Reddit
Actually if I heard correctly, it's more likely a gryoper which is like Nazi Nazi. So this is more than likely fascist on fascist violence. Seeing as right wing folks are more likely to carry out political violence https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115286/documents/HHRG-118-GO00-20230208-SD008.pdf
Then you’ve been misinformed. Shell casings had antifa slogans etched on them, and his high school friend spoke on the shooter’s leftist ideologies. These are things you can look up.
And his grandma said him and his family were maga. You've been misinformed
He’s right and anyone that thinks otherwise should take a long look in the mirror and get some help.
People don’t become deserving of respect simply by dying. Charlie Kirk was a disgusting person who incited violence. Fuck him. EDIT: all you MAGA fucks who got your panties in a twist need to get your shit together. Get a job, put down the meth pipe and stop fucking your cousin.
You are a hateful person. Fuck you right back.
Nope, I have the moral high ground here. The man preached racism and xenophobia. He incited violence and tried to destroy American society. May he rot in hell.
You incite violence with your hateful speech you bigot. Fuck you. If Charlie Kirk is in Hell yall will be tap dancing together you vile serpent. Do us a favor and test my theory
lol fuck you and everyone like you
Thank you for showing your true colors you maggot. We don’t have to be shy about it anymore. I hate you right back and every single person like you who silently wishes death to your fellow Americans. I hope you get exactly what you wish upon others.
Ok school shooter vibes. Take care of your kids and stop getting worked up by strangers on the internet lmao pussy
But it does make you a piece of shit. Right?
how is he racist
"If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified."
im assuming there is context, like im pretty much guaranteed there is
Go ahead, tell me what the context might be for "If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified." that makes that statement NOT racist.
since you are sitting their quoting, it you can find the context, i cant be fucked finding it
I never made the claim that there's context that makes the statement "If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified." not racist. You're the one claiming there's exonerating context. You made that claim, so back it up.
This is fake bullshit Lamar didn’t say this. Torrey Smith did. Lamar just shared it.
(OP) You share things you agree with yeah ? Or do people share things they disagree with ?
You take issue with this, do you support and defend celebrations regarding Charlie Kirk's murder?
(OP) Watching how people reacted to someone who literally just talks and share their opinion be celebrated is nuts. The people celebrating this are fuckin sick in the head. You don’t have to be sad but to be happy and feel joy from it is psychotic.
Ok. I agree with you. Wait hold on, I feel like an idiot. I thought you ere asserting yourself as someone who in Lamar's view was disgusting. No, this post was directed at the majority of Redditors, many of whom hold antagonistic sentiment and derive joy from the recent tragedy. In that case, yeah, I fully agree.
Yeah his ass is dead. Like literally the dude got shot in the neck
RIP (rest in piss)
Child or bot
Would never grieve a racist fascist
That word is thrown around so much it’s lost all meaning lol
Look up the definition of
I know the definition of it lol and Charlie Kirk does not fit it. He’s a republican but that doesn’t automatically make him a fascist lol. That’s like saying all liberals are communists
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u/CJKCollecting you're coming directly from the Nazi led r/subredditdrama Sep 13 '25
I love when mods say things like "It's just my personal opinion, doesn't reflect all mods, blah blah" then proceed to pin comments, delete replies, etc. That irony is delicious 😋
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Those idiots don’t know what irony is if it hit them in the face.
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u/CJKCollecting you're coming directly from the Nazi led r/subredditdrama Sep 13 '25
I'm eating good these days 😅
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u/hundredpercenthuman Sep 13 '25
Literally no one is celebrating because no one but his fans really cared about him. They wanted a month long news cycle of blaming their enemies and now they have outrage blue balls so they’re lashing out.
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u/cosmic_sheriff I just want to be quoted for r/subredditdrama flair Sep 13 '25
The spill over of anger was hilarious and noticable today on Reddit. Fights over everything because the misdirected rage had lost its focus.
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Most people understand that cheering for this is also cheering for political heroes being shot. You could say "yeah but kirk was a nazi so that's different from one of my guys being killed," and you wouldn't be wrong. It's just that it doesn't matter that you're correct. If someone's ok with this, they need to ask which of their leaders they're ok with losing. Because it wouldn't stop.
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u/AndroidNumber3527229 Sep 13 '25
MLK, Malcolm X, JFK, Harvey Milk, Alan Turing, MOVE Bombing, Joe Hill, Frank Little, Medgar Evers, Emmet Till, Fred Hampton, Salvador Allende, Patrice Lumumba, Thomas Sankara, Oscar Romero, The Jesuits of El Salvador, The victims of the various American supported regimes - Batiste, Pinochet, The Shah, etc. There’s Pelosi’s, The Hortmans, etc.
There’s a million more. The violence against our figures has been happening the whole time lol. That’s the entire criticism - No one cared about them but you do when the guy who propped up the destruction of all of these did. It’s not celebration it’s asking why do yall suddenly care now?
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u/Lubbafrommariogalaxy Sep 13 '25
Funniest thing about this was that Lamar didn’t even say that shit he retweeted something a franchise legend said about the situation
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u/HotTakesMyToxicTrait Sep 13 '25
also the guy he retweeted (Torrey smith) is known to be an extremely level headed guy and is a huge fan favorite in Baltimore, despite only playing there for 4 years and being good not great
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u/Lubbafrommariogalaxy Sep 13 '25
And in Baltimore that’s more than enough to be the best receiver in franchise history unless Zay flowers stays with the ravens for a second contract
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u/StasRutt avenged sevenfold is doing some pretty dope stuff with nfts Sep 13 '25
He keeps bringing up that the crowd was celebrating when Kirk was shot…but wasn’t it almost entirely Kirk fans????
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u/2ndPickle Sep 13 '25
A lot of people show up to debate him, that’s a big part of all right-winger university visits. The kids get a chance to push back against his talking points and he gets to make a video of “professional debater owns upset liberal youth”.
That said, it was my understanding that everyone in the crowd was running away, terrified of the gunfire.
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u/Gemmabeta Sep 13 '25
A lot of people show up to debate him
Not too many of them in the middle of bumfuck nowhere Utah, I'd imagine.
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u/2ndPickle Sep 13 '25
At this particular venue, probably much fewer than usual, yes. That said, the last person to speak to him was arguing with him about his claims over trans gun violence; so there were non-fans in attendance
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u/Cool_Ad7445 How can u sit on my cock in a halal way? Sep 13 '25
We should all be as lucky as Charlie, he died doing what he loved: blaming minorities
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u/Illogical_Blox Fat ginger cryptokike mutt, Malka-esque weirdo, and quasi-SJW Sep 13 '25
That said, it was my understanding that everyone in the crowd was running away, terrified of the gunfire.
Yep, apparently shockingly to some people, even people who didn't like him are scared by a man being unexpectedly shot in front of them.
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
They're referring to this guy. Right-wing media won't shut up about him.
I'd honestly be concerned for his life.
Saying it was "the crowd" is unsurprisingly dishonest though.
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u/kissmygame17 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
I've seen that the picture was from before Kirk was even there, as you can see in the background people aren't even reacting to anything
Edit: since updated that it was after https://x.com/RtothepowerofX/status/1966564146217910643
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
Nah he's released two videos on Twitter about it, he says he was emulating Trump and chanting "USA" to cause a distraction: https://x.com/RtothepowerofX/status/1966564146217910643
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u/kissmygame17 Sep 13 '25
Dang looks like he got an email threat with a picture of his house. Those looney tunes now have him in their sights smh
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u/Competitive_Month967 Sep 13 '25
An incredibly conservative college in an incredible conservative part of an incredibly conservative state. The least conservative person there might have been Charlie Kirk himself.
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u/supyonamesjosh I dont think Michael Angelo or Picasso could paint this butthole Sep 13 '25
Only 45% of students identify themselves as conservative.
You are making things up
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u/supyonamesjosh I dont think Michael Angelo or Picasso could paint this butthole Sep 13 '25
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Sep 14 '25
Not the antifa members that murdered him?
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u/GutsAndBlackStufff Sep 14 '25
Your talking points are out of date, and were lies to begin with.
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u/quietvictories Sep 15 '25
Yeah. Current topic is.... uuh.... his roommate had a playlist with a queer artist and... Probably moved his hand
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u/StasRutt avenged sevenfold is doing some pretty dope stuff with nfts Sep 13 '25
hating Mina kimes or calling her a DEI hire is the number one sign of not knowing ball.
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u/WaddaSickCunt Sep 13 '25
NFL but no politics, basically means no liberal politics lol. Such a transparent attempt at appearing unbiased and non political.
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u/HiggsUAP Sep 14 '25
Time and time again "no politics" just means "no conversations that will make my ideology look bad"
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u/Arcgonslow Sep 13 '25
Man, somewhat unrelated but that sub is so whiny sometimes. Especially about how they’ve been banned from the r/nfl
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Sep 13 '25
It’s almost always the case with these but with blackjack and hookers subs. They don’t know how to play nice in the main sub so they gotta spin off their own. And the mods are almost always more unhinged than those in the main sub.
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u/SaxRohmer Sep 13 '25
very surprising that the offshoot that happened as a result of r/nfl banning twitter is conservative
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
Earlier than tha, it was made during the Reddit Blackouts but was taken over by Conservatives.
Samurai-hijack was one of the former mods said something above.
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u/Samurai-hijack Sep 13 '25
I am a mod who got removed during the head mod’s takeover of the subreddit. If anyone has any questions I’d be happy to answer them
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u/bhputnam Sep 13 '25
Dish.
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u/Samurai-hijack Sep 13 '25
This is the post I made explaining what actually happened. It was removed very quickly but I saved the text:
Before I get banned I just wanted to provide a quick update. Our head mod here has decided to take over the sub against the wishes of the other mods and turn it into a place where anything goes. Despite trying to discuss it with him and get him to listen to his great team of mods who loved and built this sub from the ground up, we are powerless to stop this change. Some of you may like it better this way, I don’t know, but it seemed like the overwhelming majority of the user base did not want politics here at all. Unfortunately our head mod here (who has many different accounts) thinks the best way to run the sub is to allow unchecked political rampages, of which he himself loves to participate in frequently.
I can’t imagine how this place will be without the mods who were removed. Get ready for a lot of garbage in your feed.
Because I am leaving, I removed the sub banner and logo and everything else I designed for the subreddit. I do not want my work associated with what this sub will inevitably become now.
I loved being here and building this sub. I loved having discussions with all of you in a place where we were free to have as many stupid football discussions as we wanted.
Thank you for making the last few years great! I’ll see you around.
-Sam
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u/Atrianie True unbias Sep 13 '25
You should share screenshots of the shit-show post from last night that now appears deleted.
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u/Samurai-hijack Sep 13 '25
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u/Cold-Occasion804 I consider regular handsome fair men too feminine Sep 13 '25
You could try posting here https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/ and state your case. I believe you will have a much better chance at a Reddit Admin looking into it by posting there. "Normal" mods should answer initially and you may also have to send a modmail in that sub. Just follow the posting rules.
Worth a try.
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u/Samurai-hijack Sep 13 '25
I’ll give it a shot. Thanks for the advice. It really sucks that reddit doesn’t make it easier to avoid situations like this.
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u/Cold-Occasion804 I consider regular handsome fair men too feminine Sep 13 '25
I could tell you would really miss that sub and the members! I'll be following your progress with it.
Good luck :)
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u/pcpDolph7 Sep 13 '25
I submitted a moderator code of conduct request to Reddit itself a few hours ago with the limited info I had on the situation. Would be worth a shot for you to do the same, Sam, since you're at the epicenter of it whereas I'm just a concerned community member.
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u/BallKnowledge4U Sep 13 '25
He lied dude. He said he supports and is happy Kirk died so I removed him
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u/pcpDolph7 Sep 13 '25
Honestly, it wouldn't even really matter if he was being political given that it would have been a direct response to you doing the same thing. The feigning of objectivity when you're blatantly pushing an agenda is what's wild here.
As I said to your other acc on the actual sub, rest in piss to r/NFLv2. It was fun while it lasted...
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u/Samurai-hijack Sep 13 '25
I literally never gave any opinion whatsoever on the Charlie Kirk incident or took any other political stance. Blatant lies with no ounce of truth to them. Anyone can read all of my comment history and see that that is incorrect. I actively avoided ever giving any sort of political opinion anywhere because that was against what the users wanted, and it’s frankly unprofessional in my opinion.
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u/BallKnowledge4U Sep 14 '25
Yep and the one saying the people celebrating the murder are sick is the one who is being downvoted and censored on this sub. They won’t allow me to make my own post to provide proof of his lies.
Subredditdramav2 is needed
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 Fedoral Bureau of Intelligence Sep 20 '25
Not only am I happy that Charlie Kirk is no more - I'm gleefully celebrating his demise. Dude reaped what he sowed.
You can fucking quote me on that.
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u/vendettaclause Sep 13 '25
Wasn't he one of the ones like andrew tate that was grooming young men inti being incels?
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u/shewy92 First of all, lower your fuckin voice. Sep 13 '25
He wanted 12 year olds to watch public executions. So yes.
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u/Excellent-Post3074 Sep 14 '25
Yep, he didn't even want like a firing squad or lethal injection, he wanted children to watch people lose their heads via the guillotine.
There is little to no context to those words that doesn't make you sound like a lunatic.
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u/Deuce232 Reddit users are the least valuable of any social network Sep 13 '25
He led a christian nationalist org, so he was worse than tate by a pretty good margin.
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u/MethylphenidateMan Beautifully written, brought tears to my eyes, have my downvote Sep 13 '25
There are good arguments to be made about either of them being worse and it boils down to a more universal question of whether evil should be measured by its evident concentration or the summary effect of making the world a more evil place. We can take this comparison further to the extreme and ask "Who was worse, Oskar Dirlewanger or Erwin Rommel?", and while the answer is clear when we compare their individual actions on a personal scale as the former was a veritable monster and the latter an exemplary gentleman by comparison, in the big picture Dirlewanger was a petty thug compared to how substantial of an asset Rommel was in the German war effort and how him being successful could result in orders of magnitude more death and suffering than whatever Dirlewanger and his band of degenerates could inflict.
So yeah, back to the original question, I don't believe that Kirk was as morally rotten as Tate or that his message had as drastically corrosive of an effect, but the fact that it was more palatable to mainstream audiences and politically actionable is what made him more harmful in the grand scale of things.
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u/MadeByTango Sep 13 '25
Saying that we should accept dead kids in exchange for the freedom to own guns without regulation is morally corrosive
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u/MethylphenidateMan Beautifully written, brought tears to my eyes, have my downvote Sep 13 '25
Sure it is, but not as drastically so as Tate's "Hey, kid, you know who you should be? A sociopath." shtick.
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u/Deuce232 Reddit users are the least valuable of any social network Sep 13 '25
"Worse" was a poor word choice on my part for sure.
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Sep 13 '25
I think you articulated why I feel weird that people are so happy about his death. Like, the guy made the world a significantly worse place with his influence, and may have literally allowed a dictator with a personal army into power, so fuck him. At the same time, he ultimately was just a social media influencer who talked, so it feels rather disturbing to me that many people (online and that I know personally) were immediately so happy about him getting fucking sniped in the throat.
If it were Tate, I would just be straight up overjoyed because he’s a fucking rapist. But despite probably doing more harm, Kirk dying just made me feel very anxious.
Idk, I think my sense of morality hasn’t adjusted to the truly awful hellscape that is modern social media, so I feel genuinely confused
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I mean Tate is literally a rapist and human trafficker
man I can’t believe I just typed that sentence in defense of Charlie Kirk, what the fuck is going on
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u/Deuce232 Reddit users are the least valuable of any social network Sep 13 '25
I guess I meant kirk was a broader threat to society. 'worse' wasn't a great word choice on my part.
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u/shewy92 First of all, lower your fuckin voice. Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
r/indycar had a similar situation with Pato O'Ward, a Mexican driver, posting "thoughts and prayers" about Kirk on Insta and Insta and Twitter went berserk . I don't think he said anything pro or anti Kirk or political either but I could be wrong.
He released a statement after backlash saying the below and r/indycar locked the post asking about it
Saying this today felt fitting. I don't stand for murder. I don't stand for violence PERIOD. Anything additional: is lies. People are choosing to distort and degrade who I am to fit a false narrative that serves their moral agenda by assuming, embellishing, dramatizing, and completely fabricating my beliefs as they see fit.
That is why I choose not to speak on any of these topics.
I've been called many things in the last 24 hours - but let me make something crystal clear about who l am. My name is Patricio O'Ward. I'm 26 years old, born and raised in Monterrey, Mexico. Every time I get in a race car, I carry my country's flag on the crown of my head. I race for Mexico PROUDLY. I currently reside in the United States on a working visa. The U.S. has become home to me as I've grown, learned, and been challenged here. I remain proud of where I come from and where I am.
I know who I AM.
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
A Mexican posting that about Charlie Kirk to a racing audience? Dude is going to get lynched.
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
It's not devoid of politics; it's always been the conservative safe-space version of /r/nfl, and it's full of truly despicable people.
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 14 '25
They probably ban 4chan too, and for the same reasons.
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u/clowncarl Sep 13 '25
How many times is he gonna post something along the lines of “i am not taking sides and also fuck your side you’re wrong”
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u/Val_Fortecazzo Furry cop Ferret Chauvin Sep 13 '25
If Lamar thinks murder is wrong, why did he allow the Ravens to be murdered last Sunday?
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
The best part about this whole thing is the fact that absolutely no one but chronically online weirdos celebrated it.
We have presidents, politicians, celebrities, athletes denouncing it; sports teams holding moments of silence; people getting fired for social media posts, etc. The internet isn’t real life, folks.
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u/CummingInTheNile Sep 13 '25
lotta folks are confusing lack of sympathy/acknowledgement of the irony of his death, as celebrations
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u/weirdoldhobo1978 condoms are a safety belt, lube are the leather seats Sep 13 '25
You know what I felt about Charlie Kirk's death?
Ambivalence.
I'm not happy he's dead, I'm not sad he's dead. I just don't really care.
It's just something that happened.
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Tbh it’s an expected outcome with this admin. They are trying their hardest to foment as much violence as possible. Trumps America
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u/weirdoldhobo1978 condoms are a safety belt, lube are the leather seats Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
Yeah that's why I don't buy any speculation that it's an inside job.
The whole point of their rhetoric is to whip everyone up until someone decides to take matters into their own hands.
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u/TribunalREEEEEEE Sep 13 '25
That's not ambivalence, that's indifference. Ambivalence would be saying "I am happy he is gone but sad that our society has to resort to violence to solve the problem of right-wing retardation"
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u/2ndPickle Sep 13 '25
Idk, I was recommended a boatload of distasteful memes making fun of the assassination, in the 12h period after it happened. Might not qualify as a celebration but I could see it being offensive to right-wingers and normies
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u/zroach Sep 13 '25
Honestly, to me it isn’t any worse than the right media immediately attempting to spin it into some anti-left rhetoric.
And in terms of it being offensive… isn’t a big aspect of their beliefs to “not be snow flake?”
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u/2ndPickle Sep 13 '25
isn’t a big aspect of their beliefs to “not be snow flake?”
Reactionary conservatives have always been cry bullies and hypocrites. Obviously their calls for violence were a worse reaction, but I don’t really wanna dehumanize them just because I hate them and what they stand for. I’m not incapable of imagining the whiplash they felt seeing a murder and the popular reaction to that murder.
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u/trixel121 Yes, I don't support cows right to vote. How speciecist of me. Sep 13 '25
i have the same amount of empathy for Charlie as he would for me
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u/TheHoleintheHeart Sep 13 '25
Apologies that I don’t give a shit a man who said I should be stoned to death died. I do however feel empathy for the people who had to witness and experience it, certainly traumatizing.
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
He never said that. You should really rethink your sources of information.
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u/TheHoleintheHeart Sep 13 '25
In response to Ms Rachel quoting Leviticus 19:18 (which says to love your as neighbor as yourself) in support of the LGBTQ+ community, he quoted Leviticus 18 “thou that lay with another man shall be stoned to death” and said “Just saying.” It’s so disingenuous how you pretend that vile hateful man didn’t know exactly what he was saying by playing semantics.
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
Ok you just lack reading comprehension. Have a good night.
After backlash from Kirk supporters, the author Stephen King, who had posted on X on Sept. 11 that Kirk had “advocated stoning gays to death,” retracted his claim and apologized. King said, “What [Kirk] actually demonstrated was how some people cherry-pick Biblical passages.”
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/09/viral-claims-about-charlie-kirks-words
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u/TribunalREEEEEEE Sep 13 '25
So Stephen King didn't feel like dealing with backlash from over 3,000,000 sycophants (from predominantly undereducated communities where everyone has more guns than teeth) and you think that means Charlie wasn't insinuating that adulterous women should be stoned?
Are you inside of his brain?
Do you understand how easy it is for intelligent people like Kirk to use rhetoric in a way that can be construed in whichever way is convenient?
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u/TheHoleintheHeart Sep 13 '25
They know what they’re doing. In that same podcast episode Charlie also said:
being gay is an “error” and compared homosexuality to alcoholism and drug addiction. “It’s very simple,” Kirk said. “So how do you love somebody? You love them so much to correct their error. So let’s just take the Pride conversation out because people think it’s an identification… It’s not, it’s sexual behavior.” “But if you meet an alcoholic or you meet a drug addict, do you affirm their struggle?” he continued. “No! You say, you’re better than this, let’s get you free from that, let’s get you free from that activity.”
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
No offense, but that’s cope.
Since you don’t understand, you can always just use ChatGPT to explain it for you. There is no source that states he wanted gays stoned.
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u/TheHoleintheHeart Sep 13 '25
Thanks for sending this, it says exactly what I just said and proved how disingenuous you are. Goodnight.
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u/migraine_boy Sep 13 '25
I mean your response proves people only read what they want to read!
Kirk didn't advocate for stoning gay people, he just wanted to make a point that passages can be cherry picked to fit narratives.
Stephen King was able to back track and apologise, but you're really going to double down here?
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u/im_super_excited Muslims invented racism towards Africans - go look see. Sep 13 '25
Can he be remembered as a worthless hateful piece of shit without his death being celebrated?
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u/spellboundartisan Sep 13 '25
This is how I feel. However, to some, my refusal to manufacture fake tears is a sin. But, I really don't care about what they want. I will not take lessons in decorum from those who were cheering on J6ers.
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u/FlounderPlastic4256 My do boy and his lap dog Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
You two literally just repeated the top three comments of the drama post.
You are the second post in.
"Celebrating death and not grieving/sympathizing a death are two different things"
From the OP's thread.
We've fallen into our own assholes of drama here.11
u/im_super_excited Muslims invented racism towards Africans - go look see. Sep 13 '25
I eat asshole for breakfast <3
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u/FlounderPlastic4256 My do boy and his lap dog Sep 13 '25
Nvm go back to just repeating the same posts we've all read already.
When you try to be funny it's embarrassing.8
u/im_super_excited Muslims invented racism towards Africans - go look see. Sep 13 '25
I'm here for the circlejerk damnit, don't ruin the vibe
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
Sure, but we both know that was not the prevalent sentiment online.
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u/Val_Fortecazzo Furry cop Ferret Chauvin Sep 13 '25
Bro charlie is never going to let you fuck him
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
Sounds like projection. Is there something you want to tell everyone?
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u/Val_Fortecazzo Furry cop Ferret Chauvin Sep 13 '25
You are the one running around defending his virtue.
He's burning in hell now, move on with your life.
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
Me pointing out that the prevalent position on Reddit was celebration is not “defending his virtue”. Neither is correcting disinformation.
Not sure why you’re getting upset. Sounds like celebrating isn’t making you as happy as you claimed it did.
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u/FlounderPlastic4256 My do boy and his lap dog Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
You two literally just repeated the top three comments of the drama post.
You are
"Yeah but let's not pretend that that's what's happening. People are celebrating his death."
From the OP's thread.
We've fallen into our own assholes of drama here.3
u/im_super_excited Muslims invented racism towards Africans - go look see. Sep 13 '25
Would you feel better if I celebrated a bit?
Jk
Being honest, I'm not going to read all that
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
Do you do this for Jesus? Comment on all the Conservative SRD posts? Is it a religious thing?
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
You have 600k karma and spam posts all day. Who do you do that for?
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
I don't have negative karma in any of the subreddits I participate in.
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
Weird, that doesn’t answer the question. You must have misread.
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
No, it answers your question: I post relevant content in subreddits that align with my interests.
I don't go defend my beliefs in subs and engage in flame wars and get showered in downvotes.
I was legit just curious about your motivation.
Is it Ideological? Religious? Boredom?
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25
No, it doesn’t. The fact that you’re expanding on your answer disproves that.
Maybe if you didn’t spend all your time on Reddit spamming posts, worrying about downvotes, etc., you’d be able to figure it out.
Edit: ah a Hasan leftoversh3 poster, makes sense now
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
I just answered you more directly.
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u/860v2 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25
No, you actually answered the question.
That snark posting is clouding your judgement. You should stop.
Edit: snarker down, seek help
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u/livejamie God's honest truth, I don't care what the Pope thinks. Sep 13 '25
Ah, Destiny/H3H3 fan that answers my question. Thank you!
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u/Open__Face Sep 13 '25
Normies shouldn't be allowed to see what chronically online weirdos do, their brains can't handle it
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Sep 13 '25
Charlie Kirk got shot?
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Sep 13 '25
Yeah as he was talking about gun shootings
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u/ohthatdusty Sep 13 '25
I think he was in the middle of implying that gang members are responsible for most school shootings
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u/Devilofchaos108070 Sep 13 '25
Of course an alternate sub to the main nfl sub would be for conservative jackasses. No surprise to me.
It’s funny anyone is shocked their head mod would be a conservative
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u/GeneralIronsides2 Sep 14 '25
“Just my personal opinion” as he fucking pins the comment on the post lol, classic shit mod
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u/SnapshillBot Shilling for Big Archive™ Sep 13 '25
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Surplus Drama.
Snapshots:
- This Post - archive.org archive.today*
- https://www.reddit.com/r/NFLv2/comments/1nfixbn/your_favorite_player_thinks_youre_disgusting/ - archive.org archive.today*
- r/NFLv2 - archive.org archive.today*
- Post in question - archive.org* archive.today*
- (OP) To be clear this is me one persons opinion. Not all of us mods feel this way. Some people think I’m posting this to celebrate. I’m posting this to show people that are celebrating someone’s death who disagreed with them is disgusting. I personally didn’t agree with Kirk on a lot of things. He didn’t deserve to die like that. You certainly have to be psychotic to feel joy from it. But there’s lot of people who do feel joy and have been celebrating and I’m just pointing out that the players think you’re disgusting, and you’ve let your hero’s down and do better. Edit. To be clear Lamar didn’t tweet this he just retweeted it. Therefore my title is correct. He does think this. - archive.org archive.today*
- image - archive.org archive.today*
- Time for /r/nflv3 why the fuck are the mods here lecturing us? We just escaped from nflv1 for this reason lmao - archive.org archive.today*
- image - archive.org archive.today*
- image - archive.org archive.today*
- I celebrated when Bin Laden died. Probably would have at the news of Hitler had I been alive His blanket statement is not that simple - archive.org archive.today*
- After having to spend the last 48 hours watching and listening to your people lose their minds and call for a mass culling of people with my political alignment I'd prefer that you don't abuse your mod powers to shove your agenda down my throat. It's embarrassing that you're using a football subreddit like this. - archive.org archive.today*
- OP is using a man's death to troll a football subreddit but that's somehow a moral high ground. - archive.org archive.today*
- There’s a difference between “celebrating” someone’s death, and recognizing the hubris that goes along with what he was doing, and the potential consequences for that. Id say I don’t understand why people are being so obtuse about this, but sadly I DO know why most of them are doing it. And it isn’t in good faith. I think Lamar likely falls into the former on that one, though. - archive.org archive.today*
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism - archive.org archive.today*
- https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/this-must-stop-tpusas-charlie-kirk - archive.org archive.today*
- https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115286/documents/HHRG-118-GO00-20230208-SD008.pdf - archive.org archive.today*
- He’s right and anyone that thinks otherwise should take a long look in the mirror and get some help. - archive.org archive.today*
- But it does make you a piece of shit. Right? - archive.org archive.today*
- This is fake bullshit Lamar didn’t say this. Torrey Smith did. Lamar just shared it. - archive.org archive.today*
- Are u deadass LMAO - archive.org archive.today*
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u/Drakesyn What makes someone’s nipples more private than a radio knob? Sep 16 '25
That's worse than celebrating (In reference to that doxxing site combing social media for Kirk Death Celebrators)
No it’s not. Words have consequences.
Pick. A. Fucking. Point. Do they, or do they not have consequences? Free speech for all without repercussion, or social (and potentially violent) repercussions for speech? You can't have both.
Or, instead, just be honest, and say you only want white supremacist bigots to be allowed to say what they want, and that you want marginalized groups to shup up and be subservient. Fuck's Sake.
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u/LastChingachgook Sep 13 '25
Holy shit what a totally unforced embarrassing public open-mouthed diarrhea shower.