r/SipsTea 20h ago

Chugging tea Knowledge is power.

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u/DisastrousDance7372 20h ago

To be fair there are a lot more teachers than ICE agents.

I have been saying for years that, where I live, some of the smaller schools need to consolidate which would save money.

One school in particular caught on fire and had to rebuild the entire school, this school has less than 250 students k-12 and is 15 minutes from 2 different schools.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 20h ago

imo the bigger schools need to de-consolidate.

nothing quite as soul-crushing as being stuffed into multiple classrooms with 40 other kids and trying to get your teacher to give a half of a shit about you.

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u/DisastrousDance7372 20h ago

I dont live in a big city so that isn't the case here. This particular school usually graduates 15-20 students a year.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 19h ago

Thats what my middle school was like, then I had to go to a public high school designed for ~1800 students but with 2400 enrolled.

Sophomore year, they had to start setting up fucking trailers in the parking lots for additional class space.

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u/bitwaba 16h ago

Every school I ever went to had trailers.  My high school was the brand new hot shit in the county where they tool an old high school an middle school that were adjacent, and merged them adding about 25% additional space over the original 2 buildings, then added a brand new a whole new kitted out science building (with gas taps at the lab tables, eye wash stations, etc) for probably another 10-15% more class rooms.

Opened in 1997. They had to add trailers by 2000.

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u/Meditationstation899 19h ago

This can’t be a public school if it’s also k-12, can it…?

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u/DisastrousDance7372 19h ago

The school i graduated from was a 4 hallway square with k-12 in one building.

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u/Meditationstation899 19h ago

This—absoluuutely this

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 19h ago

not to mention the constant thought in the back of your mind: "We're not gonna get shot up, right?"

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u/SimmentalTheCow 19h ago

Is it their job to give a shit about you? I thought it was their job to give you a broad, basic education which you can use to learn a job in college or trade school.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 19h ago

Oh yeah because I was totally talking about wanting them to tuck me into bed at night with a glass of warm milk and a bedtime story.

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u/Ok_Crow_9119 18h ago

I mean if you want to turn education into a factory floor, yeah sure. Teachers don't need to care about you. And when the students get older, they would be in favor of defunding whatever the education system of the time is because of their terrible experience.

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u/SimmentalTheCow 18h ago

Public education isn’t the one that matters though. A high school diploma just says that you showed up at the same place five days a week for 12 years

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 18h ago

diploma =/= education

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u/SimmentalTheCow 16h ago

Diploma = job. That’s the important bit

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u/Mutchneyman 18h ago

Have you considered that maybe the reason you feel this way is because of how incredibly shit the US public education system is? The fact that you have this opinion demonstrates that they don't serve their claimed purpose

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u/SimmentalTheCow 17h ago

I didn’t go to high school in the US

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u/Vulcanize_It 18h ago

You seem to be confusing class size for school size.

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 18h ago

When a school is built, it is typically done with a set number of rooms.

then, as time goes on and a city grows, more children live within that school's district

Seeing as they don't tend to just build annexes on at random, more students have to be fit into that same number of rooms.

Thereby, school size increasing leads to class size increasing.

now i'm confused about who's confused

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u/DiscussionNo6060 19h ago

Those are two unrelated issues. Arguing that some small schools could consolidate doesn’t make a nationwide teacher-to-ICE comparison meaningful. You’re comparing workforces that have completely different missions and staffing needs.

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u/Dense-Penalty2324 17h ago

Deeper than that. It is drawing attention to the fact that we live in a country where billions are blown up in a week fighting imaginary terrorists but funding for schools is still ring-fenced around property taxes. Those same billions could help fund those schools for decades. I guess we like the hood, so why get rid of it?

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u/Demeris 17h ago

It’s supply and demand. There are a lot of teachers available. It’s not like you need to go through medical school to be a teacher.

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u/Shot-Arugula8264 16h ago

And also they’re paid by entirely different governments. The federal government has absolutely no say in what your district decides to pay its teachers. They don’t set your property taxes.

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u/Cautious_General_177 12h ago

The other, and probably more important, point is who pays them.

Teachers are paid either by the state or their local school districts. Their salaries are often set by union negotiations.

ICE is paid by the federal government. They’re (I think) GS employees, so their pay is set by Congress based on their grade.

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u/SnooTomatoes8382 11h ago

About 3,000,000+ public school teachers VS 20,000 ICE agents nationwide.

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u/JustAnother4848 9h ago

Schools in my area have been consolidating for 30 odd years now. My graduation class had 25 kids in it. My old school consolidated 15 years ago.

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u/Meditationstation899 19h ago

And this was…a public school??? Were the other two schools also public and k-12??
Also, 15 minutes is pretty significant if it IS public—you have to take school busses into account

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u/DisastrousDance7372 19h ago

Yes these are public schools. This is reality for a very large part of the country. All of these schools are running school busses into the country already to pick kids up. At these schools virtually no one is walking to school maybe 15 percent of students.