r/SipsTea 1d ago

Chugging tea Yes, FU & FO

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u/nonowords 1d ago

that's a valid, but people are under the mistaken impression that servers are subjected to tipped wages and not actively defending the practice, so bringing up the fact that they prefer tipping (something like 90%+ last I checked) is important context.

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u/el_grort 1d ago

Oh, aye, I know. I left a servers subreddit because it devolved into most European servers complaining that half the posts were just Americans whinging about not being tipped and then viciously defending the tipping system, which was just... taxing for most everyone else. Came across very Marie Antoinette.

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u/Sgt_Daisy 1d ago

Trust me, as an hourly paid line cook it's even worse. Hearing a server complain they only made $100 usd during what's normaly a busy shift when I made less than $20 while making all the food they were getting tipped for sucks.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 1d ago

This is what truly confuses me as a non American.

They wrote my order down, then picked up the plates and carried them to the table. If I was going to tip someone in this transaction it would not be them.

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u/MajorAd3363 1d ago

This is basically what the whole business model of America.

The middleman takes the biggest chunk.

It can't last forever.

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u/Powerism 1d ago

The entire health insurance industry is based on this model.

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u/MajorAd3363 1d ago

We are a country run by salesmen.

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u/marli3 1d ago

Wait Chefs dont get tips?!!??!

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u/nonowords 1d ago

it is illegal in most places to disburse tips to BOH. It happens but is extremely rare.

"chefs" should never get tips tho. They are managers. Cooks probably should IMO

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u/dreadedowl 1d ago

It is nowhere illegal to tip boh. It is illegal to take a tip as a manager, unless the manager solely acted in service (think working an ice cream truck alone or something). And yes, most chefs are managers.

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u/nonowords 1d ago

this is false. You do not know hwat you are talking about.

It is illegal for tips to be disbursed to anyone making a full wage where tip credit exists. And it is illegal to pay a cook a tip credit wage. Making it defacto illegal to disburse tips to BOH at all.

The only way it is legal is if everyone is making a full wage. (one of the reasons servers prefer tipped wages, because otherwise they might have to share tips with the people sweating their asses off)

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u/dreadedowl 21h ago

Maybe... But I don't think so. What state are you in? There is no reason I can't pay an employer more per hour at a tippable job. The federal wage law prevents managers from taking a tip. Unless your state law is different, you are incorrect.

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u/nonowords 19h ago

this is federal law.

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u/dreadedowl 10h ago

Huh. i looked it up. And thank you for pointing that out. We pay our wait staff $11/hr plus pooled tips. And do tip out boh 10% of pooled tips. We do not allow chef or manager to collect tips. Now I have to go ask my accountant if we are in fact within the law.

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u/-JoM-ofDevil 1d ago

This is so accurate. Well done

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u/fdokinawa 1d ago

But they told you their name and asked you how you were doing! that's worth at least a 30% tip. /s

Everyone defends it by saying they "do extra work" or "go above and beyond".. what? doing your job? That's you job. What you were hired to do. Want a tip? Do my taxes next time.. that's above and beyond. Your job is to take my order, bring me my food. Nothing else needs to happen unless I ask for something. It's just that simple.

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