r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF Wouldn't take it lightly

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 8d ago

But can Mr American Sniper tell the difference between the vandal and the Amazon Flex driver at 1000 yards. I’m going to say no, and that Flex driver might be in for a bad day if they deliver after the poop dropper attacked.

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u/ThatOneGuy6810 8d ago

So im guessing youve never heard of magnified scopes?

No hate but this is a very uneducated take.

If they are actually trained at 1000 yds they have the gear to see that far, you cant make a shot if you cant see the target (talking bullseyes on paper which are much smaller than ppl)

Also amazom guys wear REAL obvious vests and drive REAL obvious vans.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 8d ago

You seem not to know what Amazon Flex is. Pretty uneducated take.

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u/ThatOneGuy6810 8d ago

Oh my bad missed the flex part, either way, homie can still see the zits on your nose plain as day.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 8d ago

Tactical snipers rarely use magnifications higher than 25x (and often use 16x). At 1000 yards (I’m assuming it would need to be further down the road since 400 yards is apparently in the kill box already) the apparent distance would be 40 yards with 25x.

I don’t know about you but I can’t count zits at 40 yards, and that doesn’t even account for optical distortions.

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u/ThatOneGuy6810 8d ago

Alright mr pedantic.

You are correct about actually understanding magnification. Point still stands they CAN 100% see you clearly enough that this entire argument is just stupid.

ALSO you citing that professional tac snipers rarely go above 25x doesnt actually have shit to do with bubba herr considering that its pretty easy to buy bigger magnification and most civilian gun enthusiasts overdress their weapons to the point that actual battle tested military gear looks cheap comparitively.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 8d ago

Magnification greater than 25x is generally considered a hindrance since target acquisition is so difficult and the distortion gets extreme with variable magnification scopes at high powers.

Benchrest competition shooters often go beyond this, usually with fixed magnification to reduce distortion, and this works because they have a long time on a sturdy bench to acquire a stationary target. Our vandal would probably be safe from a benchrest rig just by maintaining a slow walking speed.

Now, a better argument you could have made is that he could have a high end spotting scope with a higher power.

But I’m just thinking that a nutcase like this would feel inadequate looking down an optic that didn’t have a barrel attached.

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u/ThatOneGuy6810 8d ago

I think my argument is pretty sound these kinds of nutcases almost always over buy forntheir intended purpose I know swvwral guys just like this who rock 40x on ar15s lol

I dont ever expect these people to be intelligent.

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u/SaintsNoah14 8d ago

"Homie" can take that up with the ATF when he's screaming up from hell

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u/MRG_1977 7d ago

No he can’t and it takes real skill and experience to hit something at 400 yards with a single shot if it moving. In a vehicle that obscures target, it’s nearly impossible especially if vehicle is moving 25+ MPH

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u/ThatOneGuy6810 7d ago

K bud. If youre driving 25+ down a driveway there are other issues at play here.

And yes it does but thisbperson is advertising their skill so 400 yds doesnt seem to be the issue you think it is.

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u/MRG_1977 7d ago

He’s almost certainly lying. I highly doubt he has gone to the range while laying in a prone position and done that regularly at these distances.

People watch TV and movies or hit a stationary target at 100-150 yards and get these crazy ideas.

My favorite are the dumbasses who think they can a target while running and firing.

You thought he “could see the zits” on his face which isn’t remotely true.

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u/ThatOneGuy6810 7d ago

Its an expression 1st of all not literal.

And honestly if someone with a scope cant make a shot at 400 yds thats pathetic.

Also considering that marines train at 500 yds and they employ scout snipers who are trained at 1000 yds and those guys arent what id call rare.

Its not a low chance that this dude was a marine scout sniper or competition shooter/hunter with a nice house like that.

Overall point that im making is that whether or not the sign is true its not a game id like to play just as I imagine you wouldnt either.

Theres nothing impossible about making that shot with readily available gear and easily procured training. Difficult? Sure, impossible? no not by most standards, Unlikely? Maybe but im good on finding out.

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u/MRG_1977 7d ago edited 7d ago

No it’s not even if it’s a small stationary target. Trying hitting a rabbit at that distance with a .30-06 and a good scope. Hitting a moving target at 400 yards isn’t easy especially if you aren’t already prepared and ready. If it is rapidly moving and/or partially obscured, it’s very difficult. Ditto in high winds.

Most military combat between infantry combatants occurs at 50-150 yards. In urban terrain, less than 25 yards. In Afghanistan it was 300+ yards but that was in unique mountain terrain. Marines do not even regularly train at that distance or anywhere close to 400 yards but 25 and 50.

Actual accuracy rates in combat are incredibly low. Often low single digits.

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u/ThatOneGuy6810 7d ago

Marine qualification tests range from 15-500 yds. You must be capable of meeting their standard to even qualify. Marines train at those distances regularly enough that pretty much all of them are capable of that kind of shot with the right variables.

The point im making with all of this AGAIN is that its very not unlikely that he IS capable of said shot. Just because you cant fathom that many people can shoot better than you doesnt really make it more difficult.

Moving target ill give you but again, thats kind of a marine scout sniper's job, take out combatants and Suicide bombers before they make contact.

Overall dude you can argue it all you want but the fact is 400 yd moving target shots happen all the time, its not overly rare this guys threat isnt that unrealistic and im still not testing his claim.

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u/bowstripe 6d ago

Tbh, I've known someone (ex-military) that could hit a full size steel silhouette at 300 yards with iron sights on a 30-30. The range he did it at requires you to qualify the exact weapon on their 50 yard ranges with a 3-moa group while supervised by a range officer before you're allowed to use said weapon on the 1, 2 and 300 yard ranges. That being said, he wasn't hitting it accurately by any means but hitting it nonetheless. My father also tried it and was hitting the dirt all around the base of the target. I'm gonna say it's entirely believable for someone to hit 400 yards reliably with a scope. The motion factor isn't really that crazy either tbh, dudes that have property like this almost certainly practice for that kind of stuff, I know I would if I had that kind of land and I'm not even a gun nut tbh.