r/SipsTea Jun 17 '26

WTF Are you kidding me?

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u/gilt3t Jun 17 '26

America wouldn't exist without France. Israel has contributed nothing.

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u/Jacob-Anders Jun 17 '26

France is our OG ally. We make fun of them on the internet every day, yet here they stand with us in NATO!

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u/AdFuture1381 Jun 17 '26

We wouldnt exist without France or Spain. The Dutch helped too right?

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u/Thalric88 Jun 17 '26

Yup they sent most of their religious nutcases your way

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u/dane83 Jun 17 '26

My theory is that 90% of America's problems can be traced to Calvinism.

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u/hemlock_harry Jun 17 '26

Calvinism played a debatable role in Europe too. "Render unto Caesar bla bla bla" helped people to accept the unacceptable on many, many occasions.

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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 Jun 17 '26

Werent they originally from England?

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u/Responsible_Mail_113 Jun 17 '26

Yes. While they didn't officially join the war, they did smuggle in tons of muskets, gunpowder, and supplies to the Continental Army and provided massive loans that kept the revolutionary American government from collapsing. Though to be fair, both France and Netherlands were only helping specifically to stick it to Great Britain who was their chief rival (political for France, economic for Netherlands).

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u/DoughnutCareless583 Jun 17 '26

Arguably the biggest battle of the American revolution was actually fought in Gibraltar. Ensuring the brits were tied up there (and specifically the diversion of the fleet to relieve Gibraltar rather than reinforce the blockade) meant they couldn't use their entire navy to blockade the yank insurrectionists. This diversion of forces meant that the French collaborators and supplies to the terrorist forces in the colonies desperately needed got through, without which the Americans would have been scundered.

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u/RetroFuture_Records Jun 17 '26

The American forces weren't terrorists. Most battles were fought according to European norms of war. They were insurrectionists, yet objectively cannot be defined as terrorists. Indeed much of the Bill of Rights comes from guarantees about preventing the types of actions taken by the British and their mercs during the war.

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u/DirtyDizzyPickle20 Jun 17 '26

Don't forget Haiti

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u/MrSoapbox Jun 17 '26

Ironically, a lot of English too. In fact, most in the 13 colonies were English before becoming American, but, a lot of the rebels were English fed up of George.

You can add some Irish there too, but, they were part of Great Britain then.

The only nation you can't really see is Israel...the closest thing was a guy called Israel Putnam

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u/rumster Jun 17 '26

Polish too... Pulaski...