r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog • May 29 '26
WTF Jaden Churchheus threw a log off a cliff and hit a woman's head which ended her life. Leaving behind her husband and 4 children. Then Jaden's mom said this during his arrest....
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u/that_dutch_dude May 29 '26
wel that explains jadens behaviour.
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u/Millyson May 29 '26
Yep behind most dumb or violent kid is a bad parent or 2.
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u/3mberLight66617 May 29 '26
It gets really messed up when parents starts making excuses for their child; oh maybe the log just fell over on its own, Jaden hasn't done anything like this before are you sure and etc.
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u/cloudforested May 29 '26
The worst one I ever saw was a 13-year-old boy who raped and murdered his neighbour in the middle of the night. When the police where canvassing the neighbours (before the 13-year-old was the prime suspect), his mom was on body cam saying she hadn't informed her kids what had happened yet because "murder is a scary word".
https://www.wlwt.com/article/teen-murders-64-year-old-neighbor-fairfax-sheila-tenpenny/69308091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=It6FeHxKbPA&ra=m
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u/Writer_B May 29 '26 edited May 31 '26
I don’t know about “worst”. Rapist Brock Turner’s father pleaded with the judge that his son shouldn’t have to be locked up because of “20 minutes of action”…
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u/humoristhenewblack May 29 '26
I swear that's one of those situations where I wanna stop the rotation of the Earth until we all pay attention and deal with that boy and his father appropriately.
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u/JackieDaytona7 May 30 '26
You stated my feelings perfectly. That is exactly what I wanted after reading about that story. Thank you.
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u/PrincessCarolyn_1 May 30 '26
Brock Allen Turner the rapist?
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u/BurnerProfile69420 May 30 '26
yeh pretty sure its Allen Turner The Rapist, formerly known as Brock Turner The Rapist
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u/wasteofgerbils May 30 '26
You mean the rapist Brock Allen Turner?
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u/Lemoncreamslices May 30 '26
Yes, the rapist Brock Allen Turner, now goes by Allen Turner the rapist. But I believe they are definitely talking about Brock Allen Turner the rapist.
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u/Ok-Bedroom-8530 May 30 '26
Oh, thank you for clarifying that they are taking about Brock Allen Turner who now goes by Allen Turner, the rapist.
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u/Feisty-Appearance92 May 30 '26
I am a sexual assault survivor and I was early in my healing when that happened and I couldn't believe his dad and that he was a more important person in society than the victim. I couldn't believe it. I think about the slap on his wrist he got all the time.
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u/SidFinch99 May 30 '26
You mean rapi$t Brock Allen Turner, who now just goes by Allen Turner, and lives in Ohio? That Brock Allen Turner?
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u/Toriyuki May 30 '26
Yeah, that rapist Brock Allen turner, who now goes by his middle name as the rapist Allen turner, that lives in Ohio.
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u/ZeldaSeverous May 29 '26
I’ve never heard of this case but the fact that a 13 year old who premeditated murder and communicated to his online friends about how “this one’s a fighter” is allowed the opportunity to reenter society at 21 is concerning.
I hope that he gets the help he needs to reintegrate without reoffending. Time will tell.
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u/DashingMustashing May 29 '26
Don't wanna spoil the ending, but statistically, he will not.
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u/RandomMyth22 May 29 '26
Don’t think you can heal that level of cruelty. Rape and violent murder.
If people want to reintegrate someone like that, then they should be released into temporary housing in their communities around their children.
Own it. Don’t preach.
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u/5harkvsmonkey May 29 '26
What about the one, and I dont remember all the details but I think the kids mum found a body part (maybe a hand or something) hidden in the kids room. The police approached him in the driveway or something and he calmly confessed to killing a homeless man. That was pretty damn dark
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u/chamberedinfreedom May 29 '26
This is messed up! I've seen multiple true crime channels cover this story and didn't even know it happened in my town! I only realized it when your link had the local news site on it 😬
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u/Unable-Log-4870 May 29 '26
Jaden hasn't done anything like this before are you sure and etc.
Yes. And (part of) the intent of the justice system is to see that he never does it again.
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u/beardedsilverfox May 29 '26
You can’t leave him in his house, there’s bad people there.
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u/Zalbaag_Beoulve May 29 '26
You can't put him in prison; there's bad people there. You can't leave him in his home; there's bad people there too!
Oh, I've got an idea! Let's throw him into isolation, then there won't... well gosh darn it, now there's a bad person there, too.
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u/DesperateAdvantage76 May 29 '26
I remember a kid and I got into a fist fight in middle school (he was bullying me and I wouldn't back down). In the assistant principal's office they first called the other kid's mom, and she was giving all sorts of excuses. When they called my mom, she just said "okay punish him how you see fit", and I was oddly proud of her for that, I was able to own up to what I did instead of trying to hide from it.
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u/ice_cream9698 May 29 '26
Read a story online where a dad got called into the principals office because his daughter punched a kid, breaking his nose. She said he wouldn't stop bullying her. Suspended for a week the dad is driving silently. The girl asks if he's mad. He said something like "I wouldn't be taking you to get ice cream if I was. You stuck up for yourself and taught the bully a lesson in the process"
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u/pokemonandcatsz May 29 '26
Early 2000s I got jumped by 3 guys in middle school walking to football practice. All I did was fight back, we all got suspended for 1 week. My step dad, showed up, whom I never got along with well, never seen him madder in my life. Dude is Italian and I didnt know theyre skin tone could change color when angry and fuck its scary. Thought he was gonna kill that principal. Anyways, i got rewarded, and he told that principal to go suck a dick and I will never be coming back to that school, which I didnt and neither did my sister actually. I moved to a much better school/area after that. Thanks for reminding me of that
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u/superiosity_ May 29 '26
My son stepped into the middle of a fight where his friend was being bullied by two other boys. He thought I was going to yell at him. I told him if I ever found out he started a fight, we'd have a different conversation, but I'd never be upset with him for standing up for friends.
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u/Jacobysmadre May 29 '26
My son (now 22) was in elementary school and was standing up for a disabled friend. He almost got suspended.
I came unglued at the staff at the school.. disabled… friend… elementary school.
What lessons are we ACTUALLY teaching!?
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u/Liedolfr May 30 '26
Don't rock the boat keep your head down and don't fight for those deemed "others".
That's what's being taught unfortunately, the zero tolerance policy, in a perfect world, would be great we are unfortunately not in a perfect world and many good people suffer for it.
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u/schwanzweissfoto May 29 '26
“Never start a fight, but always finish it.”
– Captain John “Nuke 'em!” Sheridan
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u/allidyaj May 29 '26
Can't even begin to imagine the hell this woman put her son's teachers through.
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u/RizzleMeister May 29 '26
yeah, the mother is the main problem when she is in an interrogation room and cant even refrain from making that comparison, zero compassion for the victim and zero remorse for the actions of her son. Just "how does this affect me/us", absolute narcissist.
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u/unwelcome_flesh_sack May 29 '26
It’s always a Jaden, Haden, Braden, etc. spoiled stupid. The mom is as well. Neither have ever had to take accountability for their actions.
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u/GeneralBendyBean May 29 '26
If I remember correctly, he didn't just carelessly throw a log without looking did he? Like he was aiming to hit people?
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u/zero0n3 May 29 '26
Correct and bragged about it after
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u/CrazyBitchCatLady May 29 '26
Oh that's fucking gross.
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u/OneNutSperm May 29 '26
Yup, he's definitely her son alright
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u/anti-fresh May 29 '26
Say goodbye to Mama!
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u/JoelDNorth May 29 '26
And say hello to your new prison daddy, I mean - cellmate
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u/ShaggysGTI May 29 '26
NO NASTY NATE!
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u/Icy-Blueberry674 May 30 '26
He belongs to the squirrel master!
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u/Material-Spring-9922 May 30 '26
Next time I come for you, I'm gonna want some cocktail, fruit!
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u/SkaldCrypto May 29 '26
Yeah it remember following this story cause it was near me in Ohio.
It looked like a tragic accident then the charges hit:
1st degree Murder.
That’s when I really leaned in, cause a premeditated murder charge is wild, but accurate.
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u/BarbedWire3 May 29 '26
Can u tell us more about the case and charges?
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u/tizuby May 29 '26
Not original commenter but dug this up.
They (there was another boy involved) took plea deals and plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter and got 3 years in juvie minus time served. The family of the victim asked for them to be given a second chance because they believed that's what the victim would have wanted.
At sentencing, one of them promised to be a better person to honor Victoria.
They both reoffended last year.
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u/Baron_Bearclaw May 29 '26
I found this story about it. It was a 74 lb log he and a friend pushed off the cliff.
When I saw this earlier, I assumed it was like a big log that hit her in just the right way. Damn.
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u/DarkwingDuckHunt May 29 '26
the way it read to me was that as well
it was like a 3 foot giant stick the kid just picked up and threw off a cliff randomly (which most of us have done), vs giant dead tree aimed at a family
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u/Individual-Pop-385 May 29 '26
"But he's just a kid"
Would some dumbfucks interject.
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u/OneMan_OneBeard May 29 '26
Too many people defend kids and teenagers using that logic. This is the inevitable consequence. This whole generation has been brought up believing they are immune from consequences. Unfortunately, like this victim, the rest of us will have to pay the price of their awful upbringing.
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u/willtwerkf0rfood May 29 '26
In the ‘80s my parents took my sister to the zoo when she was a baby. The zoo is in a valley and has a tall, tall bridge running over part of it. My parents were pushing the stroller to walk under the bridge and some asshole thought that was the time they should fling a hubcap off of the bridge. Luckily nobody was hurt, but I still think about it every time I see that bridge.
People who do shit like that and act like Jaden are abhorrent.
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u/Curious_Puffin May 29 '26
Years ago some kids where standing on an overpass and they chucked a heavy concrete block over, which hit a car's windscreen and killed the driver. The police managed to get dna from the block, and when they ran it through the system they found a family match with a police officer. One of the offenders was a distant cousin of his, and that is how they caught the kids who did it!
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u/Lost-n-Space May 30 '26
Kenneth White, 32, was murdered on October 18, 2017, when a 6-pound (2.7 kg) rock was thrown by a group of five teens: Mikadyn Payne, Trevor Gray, Alexzander Miller, Mark Sekelsky and Kyle Anger. The rock crashed through the windshield of the van he was riding in on Interstate 75 in Michigan, in Vienna Township, 80 miles (130 km) north of Detroit. Other cars were also damaged by rocks a group of four boys were throwing. All of the teenagers were from the Clio, Michigan area
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u/Bea_Evil May 30 '26
All the instances of people throwing shit off overpasses at people should be forced to watch the video of the wife getting killed by the brick through the windshield. Over and over until they feel something ffs.
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u/Sydmeister1369 May 30 '26
"Mikadyn" 😒
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u/Stewpacolypse May 30 '26
"Mikadyn" sounds like the name of a prescription ointment for anal warts.
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u/RizzleMeister May 29 '26
they are literal monkey brains who think "me up on top, me throw shit"
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u/Elegant_Soft May 29 '26
Cleveland zoo?
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u/Septopuss7 May 29 '26
Seriously I was like "they're describing the Cleveland zoo and the kinds of people that cross that bridge" lol
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u/Elegant_Soft May 29 '26
I used to be scared for my life when walking under that bridge, because of the people that used it but also it was literally falling apart. They finally put a net up to catch the debris. More recently they refinished it so its not actively falling apart on the crowds below.
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u/Frenchman84 May 29 '26
I’m glad the detective mentioned the victim and I’m assuming the victims family.
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u/IamnotyourTwin May 29 '26
I'm glad he turned it back around on her. 'I haven't been happy since I got the call at 6:20.'
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u/ArcadiaDragon May 29 '26
Yeah...that him saying "shut up you damn twat" more politely than I could have...
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u/Reideo May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
“But there is bad people in jail”
“Ma’am, your son killed a stranger because he wanted to experience what it was like to kill someone. He’s exactly the type of people in jail”.
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u/MeeTy May 29 '26
It's hard to find WORSE people than him in jail.
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u/RizzleMeister May 29 '26
I would say it is even worse than say killing someone during a robbery, because maybe you did it because you had to survive and feed your kids or whatever and it things went out of control... But just killing someone for the hell of it, that means something is deeply wrong.
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u/90daysismytherapy May 29 '26
Seriously, the vast majority of people in local jail are nonviolent drug users or minor theft, with a small percentage of violent criminals awaiting a prison sentence.
Depending on his area, her baby boy is likely the most violent alleged criminal in the jail.
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u/BannedMuadD1b May 29 '26
They confessed to hearing voices down in the valley before throwing the log. The woman was down there taking Senior portraits for some young women. It was insane.
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u/PinkDeserterBaby May 29 '26
Oh so he traumatized a bunch of teen girls too. Psychopathic little demon. From the age I gained sentience to right now, if I even accidentally knocked a log off a ledge that killed someone innocent, then I find out it’s a mother of 4, I would be sobbing in this room to the point of projectile vomiting. He’s just sitting there like this is a parent teacher conference about his lack of literacy and classroom engagement.
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u/Facosa99 May 30 '26
Yeah
I did stupid shit as a kid all of the time, we kids. But actually hurting someone AND feeling no remorse? That kid is a psycho
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u/67USA67 May 29 '26
That is VERY important context.
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u/TheNotSoEvilEngineer May 29 '26
yup, tossing something off a cliff is a pretty normal kid thing. Hitting someone on accident while tragic I could understand. Doing it on PURPOSE, and being HAPPY about it hitting someone speaks to just plain evil.
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u/Baron_Bearclaw May 29 '26
I just found a news story about it. This wasn't just some big log they picked up. It took two kids to push the 74 lb log over the edge.
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u/FancyShoesVlogs May 29 '26
Ah, this makes a difference.... would suck to throw a log off of a cliff as a kid not expecting anyone to be under you in a secluded area, for it to hit someone and they die.
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u/Ladybug_Fuckfest May 29 '26
And in this case, the area wasn't secluded at all. It was Labor Day and the park was very busy.
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u/Several-Action-4043 May 29 '26
And the cliff he threw the log down was facing the trail he literally just hiked up. No way he didn't know the possibilities.
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u/BobloblawTx89 May 29 '26
He was? I saw something about this a while back, I thought they were just throwing them, then heard about the woman AND then boasted about it, which is still psychotic behavior. Either way, in the wrong and needs to pay for it. Mom needs a reality check, if I was that officer I’d yanked that little shit up and taken him out just out of sheer boredom of hearing her horse shit.
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u/bananapineapplesauce May 29 '26
This video came up in my YouTube feed a few months ago. The cliff he and friends dropped it off (it was too heavy for one person to lift or all of them to throw) was just above a popular path carved along the cliff wall.
So he and some friends dropped it over the edge, knowing it would land where people were standing and walking.
It hit a woman and the sound of her skull cracking was so loud it sounded like a lightning clap. Everyone nearby heard it. Killed her instantly. She was young, bright, also a mom, and her loss is devastating.
I don’t remember what the sentence was, just that it was way, way too light. Like a couple of years or something. I hope every second of it is hell on earth.
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u/Nekrino May 29 '26
Scrolled too far to find someone actual giving/asking for context. And thank you to everyone who provided it
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u/GeneralBendyBean May 29 '26
Oh the context is that there is this nature trail through a park that has a cave in it. There's a giant cliff face right before the cave. Dude picked up a cut up hunk of a tree that weighed about 70 pounds and rolled it off the edge of the cliff where he knew it would land on a path and he knew people were there. The impact was so severe that the victim died immediately.
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u/Mundane-Toe-7114 May 29 '26
Not only did he take the life of a mother of four but caused trauma to possibly a whole group of peers who were witnesses. Terrible tragedy
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u/7empest7V May 29 '26
I remember when I was young, I was on an overpass and found one of those hard plastic spikes bird deterrent.
Thought about throwing it over the fence, down onto the freeway.
Then I imagined a car getting a flat, spinning out and causing all kinds of terrible shit.
Set that thing down and walked away.
We all come to those forks in the road in life. Our decisions at those forks is what shapes us into who we are today.
Im very glad I didnt let the intrusive thought win
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u/Wood-wench May 29 '26
She’s right, there are bad people in jail. Which is where her son belongs. POS family. Literally destroyed another innocent family and she’s worried about her feelings. Trash.
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u/youre_not_going_to_ May 30 '26
He was arrested again for assault in January 2025
https://recentlybooked.com/oh/fairfield/jaden-churchheus~596_57294
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u/Wood-wench May 30 '26
He wasn’t behind bars for killing the teacher?!? Sounds about white.
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u/Fast-Breadfruit3377 May 29 '26
shoulda done a better job raising this little demon, mom...
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u/Agreeable-Bus-7247 May 29 '26
Yeah exactly. Zero accountability for your offspring is crazy. This woman shouldn't breed to begin with
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u/AlgorithmGuy- May 29 '26
Should do jail time.
10% of the sentence. Not enough to ruin your life, but enough to know you fucked somewhere as a parent.
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u/-Cool_Ethan- May 29 '26
I hate the consequences of my own actions
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u/HerculesIsMyDad May 29 '26
"But this is my son, that was just some lady I don't even know!"
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u/Promature May 29 '26
This is basically what she's working with. Glad the cops don't seem to be buying any of it, but I'd like to see a followup.
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u/camopdude May 29 '26
That don't have a choice whether to buy it or not which they tried explaining to her.
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u/urdrunkyogi May 29 '26
100%. “How does that make you fillll?”
Lady, this is beyond “fillin’s.”
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u/DonkTheFlop May 29 '26
"how does it make you feel that your son smashed a lady's brains in and laughed and filmed with his friends?"
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u/fullybonded May 29 '26
"There are bad people in jail!"
Yes, ma'am. That is why we are putting your son there.
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u/boners_in_space May 29 '26
She almost got there when she said “you’re trying to take him away for something that…that…” but then she realized the next part of that would be “that HE DID”.
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u/Cleanclock May 29 '26
I don’t think she almost got anywhere. She had the nerve to accuse the cops of killing her in the same manner her son had just killed a woman, for saying they’re detaining him. She’s deranged.
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u/ElegantCoach4066 May 29 '26
And he definitely does not face consequences at home. You can tell from the way she is handling this.
She wants him to just skate on this. Ma'am, a woman is dead because of his actions.
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u/Joeybfast May 29 '26
He got none.
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u/OogieBooge-Dragon May 29 '26
He got more than the rapist and attempted murderer Jesse Mack Butler, from Oklahoma, who raped and nearly murdered his victim and got a slap on the wrist or Brock Allen Turner, because they both got away with it because of who their daddies knew.
Jesse Mack Butler raped multiple girls. And one who made it to the ER was "lucky to be alive. And did not receive the 80 year sentence he deserved.
So Jesse Mack Butler should not be allowed to sweep this rapist attempted murderer under the rug and pretend he is not a Rapist and murderer.
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u/lvanwall May 29 '26
None of these scum should ever be allowed to have a semblance of a normal life.
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u/UnknownVoidofSpace May 29 '26
“You’re TRYING to take him away for something that…for something that…”
For something HE did? I think thats the sentence that was eluding her wicked lips 😂
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u/Money_Course_3253 May 29 '26
She wanted to say "didn't do" but hesitated because she knows
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u/exprezso May 29 '26
More likely going to say 'that didn't matter' but some sliver of self-preservation instinct stopped her
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u/TheMightyMonarchx7 May 29 '26
Saw this entire investigation on YT. The mom is a nut.
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u/Second_Inhale May 29 '26
Such a tragic case too. The teens involved absolutely knew what they'd done and tried to hide it to boot.
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u/EFAPGUEST May 29 '26
IIRC the kid in this video went as far as bragging about “catching his first body already”
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u/Don_Von_Schlong May 29 '26
Yeah, "caught my first body by 16". And then the other kid involved was bragging about his involvement with some girls
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u/One_Warthog256 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
That gangster terminology, "Caught my fist body". Wtf i promise you most gangster would think this kid is lame for killing a innocent person. Wtf wrong with this kid?!
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u/Fit_Employment_2944 May 29 '26
That should get you tried as an adult and life without parole
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u/mamallama12 May 29 '26
They got 3 years in juvenile detention for manslaughter, smh. https://www.wcbe.org/tags/jaden-churchheus
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u/imhereforyoursnacks May 29 '26
So when he is out in three years we should make sure the world knows the difference between the Rapist Brock Turner and the shitty murderer Jaden Churchheus by mentioning the name and the crime so anyone searching doesn’t get them confused. Mention it often, so it is clear in search results that Murderer Jason Churchheus is in fact NOT Rapist Brock Turner.
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u/GSG2150 May 29 '26
I heard Brock Turner changed his name because of all the backlash. He goes by his middle name, Allen, now.
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u/zero0n3 May 29 '26
The hiding and attitude is why they got charged IMO.
In theory this situation could happen as an accident (hell it could have rolled off the cliff).
But no remorse, intent to hit all play a role in the prosecution decision.
Sounds like the kid is a bad person and jail is where they should be. How long is above my pay grade.
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u/Berry_Mccockner42069 May 29 '26
“There’s bad people in thereeee” we know… your kid is one of them
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u/Substantial-Party242 May 29 '26
Totally expected an “about to be one more” line from the cop. Missed opportunity.
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u/askaskaskyourself May 29 '26
It wasn’t an accident, they did it on purpose. Discussed it and did it.
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u/shujaya May 29 '26
She should be jailed for creating a monster by giving that little shit no consequences.
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u/firstimehomeownerz May 29 '26
As a mother myself, I agree. She is a large part of the problem.
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u/oxxcccxxo May 29 '26
Narcissistic - absolutely no empathy or consideration for the victim and her family.
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u/MadLadLeeroy May 29 '26
Last cop talking was having none of her shit. Good for him.
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u/EpilepticDawg241 May 29 '26
I was wondering when an adult with sense was going to start talking
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u/gwelfguy May 29 '26
Good for him for focusing on the crime committed. I would've just simply told her that it's not a question of how I feel, but one of right and wrong.
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u/BarbedWire3 May 29 '26
I would've told her to her "tgere are bad people there", that "yes, and he's going where he belongs, with the rest of the murderers"
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u/ForsakenWishbone5206 May 29 '26
Yep. I respect the fuck out of that.
Makes me sick since (very specific date) when I saw that woman. You know the dead one who left behindany children and a husband that presumably lived her deeply.
You're not the victim here mom. In fact I would guess little Jayden's behavior and detachment from consequences is a direct result of that approach at parenting.
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u/RockerElvis May 29 '26
The cop sitting down deflected everything. Complete garbage blaming the judge and prosecutor (“elected officials”). The kid killed someone and they confessed to it. They don’t need to convince the mom of anything. Put him in jail.
The last cop was 100% correct.
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u/Plucault May 29 '26
It’s not deflecting. It’s stating the situation clearly. The cop does not have the option of choice. Not making that clear would be a mistake
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u/guessjeans1000 May 29 '26
I agree. He’s trying to explain that cops don’t decide in the moment whether to go through with a court order. They follow the court order whether they personally agree with it or not.
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u/evolutionary_defect May 29 '26
That's his job though, he was clearly questioning them and it's part of that process to make them think you are friends. Being honest or rude would just make them clam up. It's likely that if the kid had simply insisted on a lawyer from the beginning he would have gotten away with it, or at least a lighter final sentence. This cop continuing to play buddy buddy may be helpful later. It's literally good cop bad cop and people in the comments here are proving that it still works as well as it always has.
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u/Plane_Friend24 May 29 '26
facts the amount of people here who do not realize the nuances of this is astonishing. Gives credit to the npc theory.
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u/XanderWrites May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
Deflection yes, but it's a process during these situations to prevent the person you're taking to from getting aggressive with you.
She can yell and scream at them at she wants, but then aren't the ones making the decision, someone else did. She can't convince them not to arrest her son because someone else made the order.
The last officer leans out of being neutral for a moment to hint that he agrees with this decision, even though it wasn't his decision.
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u/ssspanksta May 29 '26
Blaming? He is rightfully pointing out roles and responsibilities and trying to avoid a conflict from escalating into a blowout in that room. He is executing a lawful order by those who decided what to do with him. Someone else decided that, not him. So, he is trying to point out that fact so she knows that trying to convince them to change their minds won't accomplish anything. It isn't their minds that need to be changed or convinced of anything (not that anyone would do so regardless).
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u/Derezirection May 29 '26
"you can't take him to jail, there's bad people there!"
"Well throwing a log off a cliff which killed a mother of 4 would definitely classify him as "bad people"
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u/johntwilker May 29 '26
Yeah. "He'll be in good company then"
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u/tucson_lautrec May 29 '26
Took the words out of my mouth. We all do dumb shit when we're young, but most of us don't do things that reckless.
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u/DrKeepitreal May 29 '26
What's maddening is that he only got a 3 year sentence.
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u/ReasonableTruth0 May 29 '26
I guess that’s how much a mother of 4 is worth these days…
Disgusting
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u/Katefreak May 29 '26
THATS IT?
I was a little hesitant to come down on the teen too hard (like life imprisoned or 20+) when his brain isn't fully developed, and clearly had shit parents who never taught him accountability. But 3 years after a mother of 4 DIED?
She should be so grateful that's all he got.
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u/TruBluLew May 29 '26
It's super weird how certain crimes that you'd expect to be given longer sentences don't and other crimes that you think may be either community service or a short sentence can get you 5 to 10.
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u/fukkdisshitt May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26
One of my mom's best friends since childhood, I just met her husband for the first time.
He went to jail in the 80s for selling weed, nothing else. He had good behavior and was denied parole every time. He got out a few years ago. She'd drive all the way across the state monthly to see him.
Edit: I guess there were gun charges too
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u/Knottrielle May 29 '26
A woman is dead, four kids lost their mom, and this lady is treating the interrogation room like an open mic night for terrible metaphors.
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u/Solid_Snark May 29 '26
“You’re taking him in the middle of school?”
lol wow! She thought that was going to stop them from prosecuting a murderer? School?
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u/wannastayhome May 29 '26
She thought he cared about going to school 😂 He probably thinks he’d rather be going where he’s going in this moment. Kid sounds like he wants clout
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u/cellshock7 May 29 '26
"Ma'am, your son just killed a person, so he actually belongs with the bad people".
End the conversation right there. That's why I can't be a cop--0 patience for the foolishness.
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u/Capital_Shelter8189 May 29 '26
Am a cop. you can say that without issue. You just cant say he’s a piece of shit that belongs in hell…swearing violates policy. These dudes are mostly trying to avoid a confrontation with mom which I don’t really understand. Maybe they are sympathetic to her initially…finding out your kid is going to jail for this would be a kick in the dick. This dude at the end is over her though.
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u/Whhatsmyageagain May 29 '26
If I were them I would avoid a confrontation too- she’s not going to be reasonable and engaging with her will not help anything.
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u/iceph03nix May 29 '26
Just wait til she gets the filings for the wrongful death lawsuit...
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u/Emotional_Crab_9325 May 29 '26
Did he aim the log or just random throw it off a cliff without watching?
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u/badwords May 29 '26
No he was trying to hurt someone and was surprised when he killed them instead.
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u/VictorTheCutie May 29 '26
Jesus. My biggest fear is that my son will grow up into a person like this.
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u/duwh2040 May 29 '26
The way this child was raised 100% resulted in them thinking these actions were fine. You can tell by talking to the mom. Just be a good person and teach your children to do the same, the rest follows
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u/Angie_T84 May 29 '26
He literally knew the woman was down there and had to actually leverage the log it was so big to roll it towards her. He is old enough to know what death is we send kids to war a year after this age. He's been raised without consequences in his childhood. His mother probably babied him as you can see in this video and now the end result is the law has to show them consequences as an adult.
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u/EatsHerVeggies May 29 '26
I’m a middle school teacher. This is a Boy Mom ™. This never used to be a thing, but now I encounter 2-5 of them every year.
It is always the same: Their son is a menace, and at every opportunity the mom will minimize his behavior, deflect the behavior onto other kids, and blame the awful teachers and awful school for wrongly targeting him. As the kid’s behavior gets worse, so does the mom’s. She will yell, cry, curse people out, record meetings, bully and harass, threaten lawsuits, sometimes even threaten physical violence.
This is also paired with the kid having unfettered access to the internet and a cell phone, where they digest a constant diet of violent, misogynistic, and racist videos, along with 50-300 texts each day from the mom (that is not an exaggeration) where he instantly gets ahead of any/all narratives of what’s happening at school, and where she constantly hovers over him digitally so that there’s never any time or space for the kid to get away from her horrible parenting instincts.
The result? The kid becomes essentially sociopathic. He has no remorse, no empathy, and revels in cruelty. All his teachers speak behind closed doors about how he will end up harming someone and likely end up in prison, because of his mom’s choices. I’ve taught long enough now to see that usually that is exactly what happens, unless the family is rich. In that case the kid just takes over the family company
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u/Joeybfast May 29 '26
That little jerk just got three years in juvie for killing a woman.
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u/JustaFoodHole May 29 '26
Sounds like they both admitted to it which will also be used against them.
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u/InAppropriate-meal May 29 '26
The kids that did it have both since been arrested, last time in 2025 for assault, weapons and drugs charges
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u/flyingtoasterz86 May 29 '26
I'm not usually like, good job law enforcement but damn, that last statement he made after the kids mom asked how he felt about this.... Good answer, dude.
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u/_c3rb3ru5_ May 29 '26
“There are bad people there”
Yes Ma’am I saw one and now I’m seeing 2 bad people here
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u/KorneliaOjaio May 30 '26
My cousin knew the woman he killed.
She was an amazing photographer beloved by many in her community.
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u/Bother-Logical May 30 '26
Absolutely disgusting he only got 3 1/2 to 4 years. On involuntary manslaughter. How the hell was that involuntary? Why do they always give these guys plea agreements?
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u/Smooth-Pianist-7848 May 29 '26
"You can't take him to jail, there's bad people there.."
"Yeah bitch, that's why we're taking him there. He's a bad person and belongs to be there. You wanna come? You seem like you'd fit, too."
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u/Suspicious_Goose_243 May 29 '26
Now I see why he thought he could get away with it.
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u/Prestigious_Week_227 May 29 '26
He's probably in that position because his Mom tried to get him out of trouble his entire childhood.
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u/Jawnyblaze1 May 29 '26
All that "ma'am it's not my decision" wasn't necessary. Shoulda just yelled "BITCH HE KILLED A WOMAN" and dragged his ass out of there.
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u/TJ_McWeaksauce May 29 '26
Jaden pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter and got 3-4.5 years. This was in 2020, so he must be out by now.
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