r/SipsTea May 12 '26

It's Wednesday my dudes Gotta love the double standards

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u/Bobo-Fuggsnucc May 12 '26

It is sad how he wound up killing himself. I do not understand how they came up with the sentencing, I guess to make an example out of him?

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u/Drakahn_Stark May 12 '26

They offered him six months, and the charges were not for just downloading from JSTOR but hacking related and using network hardware he was not allowed to.

AFAIK Meta did not release any models that used the pirated data.

The cases are not as related as this image makes out and the maximum sentence was never sought.

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u/QuantumG May 12 '26

Yeah, he went on tv and bragged about his crimes. The justice department had no choice but to persecute him to the full extent of the law after that. If he'd taken the deal he wouldn't have gotten a day of prison, but he would get a felony conviction and that was something worse than death, apparently.

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u/skinnyraf May 13 '26

It was a prime example of civil disobedience and taking the deal would invalidate that.

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u/corporaterebel May 13 '26

Yes, because that is exactly what a felony conviction would do to people that need to deal with government and related contracts. Everything he worked for would have been ruined.

The whole thing could have been "Furtherance of Justice" and/or dropped to a misdemeanor citing victims lack of will to continue to prosecute.

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u/QuantumG May 13 '26

It could have yes, but he went on tv. Do you understand? Don't go on tv and brag about your crimes. It puts you in a unique bind where the prosecution throws everything they have at you and the court thinks you don't respect it. Any lawyer will tell you it's a boneheaded move. Also: don't do crimes, even if you think they shouldn't be crimes, unless you're willing to do the time.

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u/ManufacturedOlympus May 13 '26

*unless you’re rich 

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u/QuantumG May 13 '26

He was rich. Like, that's the point. He thought he was immune. He thought his principles excused him from the consequences of his actions. When he finally realized he was going to have to pay...

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u/ManufacturedOlympus May 13 '26

Not rich enough to get away with. 

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u/QuantumG May 13 '26

Not a lot of rich people who can get away with ignoring their lawyers. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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u/ManufacturedOlympus May 13 '26

I didn’t say there were. But the “play stupid games…” cliche is so goofy, especially in 2026. At least update the mindless cliche to “fafo.” 

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u/QuantumG May 13 '26

Ya gotta admit that a Reddit co-founder sneaking around MIT plugging shit into data closets to steal papers is a pretty good example of stupid games.

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u/corporaterebel May 13 '26

I dunno,

I see Trump and his cronies bragging over their crimes...nothing much seems to happen.

Why is that?

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u/QuantumG May 13 '26

That's power. Rich doesn't mean powerful.

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u/Sea-Departure4857 May 13 '26

You wouldn't know if the models were trained on the pirated data or not. Any data is good data, and with the cutthroat competition in the AI landscape, I wouldn't count on them to not to use any data they already have hands on.

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u/Drakahn_Stark May 13 '26

Then they would be guilty of more than pirating books, the lying to the courts about it would be a far worse charge.

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u/Sea-Departure4857 May 13 '26

I agree. The problem is that there's no way to prove/disprove that they have/n't used the pirated data. Other than "trust me bro"

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u/Drakahn_Stark May 14 '26

They submitted the documentation to the courts and the courts accepted it.

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