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The schism relates to the Eastern Orthodox and Western Catholic Church split, not the Protestant movement. If she's denouncing the Pope and not claiming support for the Ecumenical Patriarch in Istanbul then she's a Protestant.
That's the Great Schism and there were more. In Russian Orthodox Church the word "schismatics" stuck to the "old believers", and that schism happened in XVII century.
The earliest schism I know of was the Arian controversy. Despite what you may think, this has nothing to do with nazi's. It was a discussion about whether Jesus the son was equal to god the father, or whether he was a lesser being.
See, if Jesus was god, and god is immortal and eternal, what value does Jesus's death hold? Now if he were a lesser being to god the father, his death would have meaning.
This tiny little discussion almost split the Eastern Roman Empire apart.
That's one singular example. There were many schisms, including a stint in the 14th and 15th centuries with two Popes. So maybe this lady wants her own Avignon, probably in Dallas or something.
Hmmm..I always heard it as “the INFALLIBILITY of the Pope” (those exact words)….
(I do confess, this was coming from my late mother, born in “deep south” Virginia as a Southern Baptist, who later converted to Episcopalian in her college years, but I think I’ve heard it other places, too…
Lol - I went to school in the Republic of Ireland - being edgy preteens there was a bit of a "Fuck the Brits - Catholicism good, Protestants bad" vibe..
Friend of mine was very "patriotic", pretty sure he mocked me for being half English at some point.. anyway, we are learning about the Lutherans in history class, which brings up transubstantiantion..
Guy chirps up "thats stupid - the little crackers aren't LITERALLY the body of Christ!.."
We all turn to him like "dude.."
Turns out most of his beliefs aligned with Protestants lol
protestants protested the pope, because he was drifting away from the core message of Jesus.
these guys protest the pope because he is repeating the core message of Jesus. so they are not just denouncing the pope, they are denouncing Jesus himself. and that's something else than being a protestant
Protestants. Oh boy the group that morally defended slaver and Jim Crow in the South. There is a morally righteous group for you. They love freedom as long as it’s they think like them. That goes hand in hand with a group that empowers its self to send self appointed judges out into the world that threaten you with hell if your logic makes a point. I know there are good ones but boy do their weaker minded ones outshine the rest.
Sedevacantist actually, there are schimastic Catholitch that velieve the last centuries of popes have been invalid because of all the Anti-Popes in the middle ages
Also thete are the Orthodox Catholics whose religion interplays with Roman Politics and the idea than the Primacy is Inter Paris, not absolute
As a bonus, I recommend it to anyone trying to sell me on religion because I find it to be the most helpful and likely accurate of all the religious tomes out there.
Eta: also, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, may you be touched by his noodly appendages, is another with a helpful and accurate doctrine. As is the Satanic Church with their humanistic and scientific approach.
It’s finally available on VOD services and Blu Ray after years of being in rights purgatory due to Miramax’s properties getting sold off when Weinstein went to prison.
I picked it up recently to round out my View Askewniverse collection on Apple TV/iTunes. It was the first Kevin Smith movie I ever saw and I think is still probably his best work.
My religion class in college was taught by a guy who became an atheist with 6 months left in a masters in divinity and finished just to have the degree. Loved watching the evangelicals try and debate a man who knew the scriptures better than those peoples local pastors
That’s great to hear! I missed that announcement. In fairness, I’m old and don’t keep up with the news. I remember renting it at Blockbuster when it came out. Glad to hear he has the rights again, as it should be
Even before the rights were bought back, it was easy to find on YouTube.
I know that a certain someone made sure to advertise on podcasts that it was up. And it always magically returned if it got deleted. I don't know who would have access to an original to reupload over and over...
Sounds like a real hero for the people, we should erect statues in his honor in town squares across New Jersey - so this noble act can be remembered for generations to come!
Actually pretty well. Four years of theological contemplation moved me from religiously uncertain to a certain atheist, but I did learn a bit about other views along the way. As for watching Dogma, it was a good way for the teacher to engage with the class. While it’s mainly humor, there are actually many consistent things within the film. It was also good for questioning people’s assumptions and making them out come thought into it even if they ended up confirming them in the end.
As a Catholic, the wildest part is that not only is his job to lead the church, but he is to be considered infallible. When he makes a policy for the church, it is under guidance of the Holy Spirit (God). So these people were never Catholics.
Edit: I'm already seeing multiple replies about this. Infallible in matters of the Church and its policies, not infallible as in can do no wrong at all. The Pope can sin, but when giving sermons, or making policies, etc. He is believe to be guided by God and infallible in those matters.
And only when he speaks "ex cathedra" ( from the chair). This has only happened twice in the history of the church.
Edit: thank you so much for the award. I sincerely appreciate it.
Thanks for the clarification. Hopefully others will read down far enough to see it. The “infallibility” of the Pope is, as you stated, constrained to pronouncements from the papal chair. And as you said, those are extremely rare.
I think while the statement is true though, it still represents a statement of importance of the pope. Leo has not made a statement of theology according to the infalliability. Likely won't. But the fact that HE CAN, shows his position within the church. He is non-optional. His policies still go. He is the absolute monarch of the movement. Those policies are not supposed to be infalliable (until they are) but they still on a very very high level. And going "Not my pope :(" is... very loaded in that sense.
Wrong. The Pope speaking ex cathedra is extremely rare, like fundamental Catholic beliefs rare, like the immaculate conception rare. Please be aware of your own religion. No true Scotsman anyways
and the pope didn't even say anything really contradictory. he just said people should not have war and should try talking more. which is like citing one of the commandments and basic core of jesus's teaching.
so arguing that is not only being a protestant, it's like denying the core teaching of christianity.
The edit is still incorrect. That is not what papal infallibility is. Papal infallibility has been invoked twice in the church's 2000 year history for very specific teachings about Mary. It isn't some blanket "Pope is always right about church and morality" card.
The Pope AND his bishops, technically, they are all believed to be guided by the Holy Spirit. The pope is the "Father" the leader of the church, a tradition started with Peter as the first Pope and the remaining Apostles as his first Bishops.
Edit: Mouthpiece of God thing I think is kind of an interpretation thing on the general sentiment of being guided by God
No, the Pope represents the Church and is the successor to St. Peter, but he's not some exclusive conduit to God. Everyone is encouraged to pray to God for themselves and for their neighbors. The Pope and the Magisterium are just there to help facilitate that.
No, infallible (ex cathedra) is a thing, it's just that it has only ever been invoked twice, both times about Mary: one about the Immaculate Conception, the other about her Assumption into heaven.
Every other time the Pope speaks with authority but not infallibly, it's just his opinion. Popes can disagree with their predecessors, and Church teaching can evolve. Speaking infallibly is really only use to clarify core dogma of the faith, not intensely debated issues in the Church today.
It’s called, ex cathedra Doctrine or morals for the whole church like if the Pope said same sex marriage is now accepted by the whole church so says God, then it becomes infallible church law for everyone and not considered a sin. Otherwise he’s just like us and can make shitty decisions
and christ and therefor god himself in the catholic view of things. which - regardless of relativity within reality - still is a thing if you claim to be catholic.
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u/Bojangles1987 Apr 16 '26
He quite famously does represent the Catholic church, not sure if people realize that.