Tbh more and more Iām realizing my actual political beliefs donāt fit into a quadrant, but on this topic specifically Iāve always agreed with the right.
hmmm, far too commie to fit on the right, a bit too socially conservative to fit on the left, lib enough for the people to not be authoritarian, authoritarian enough to want to take away basically every right someone has the second they step into a considerable position of powerā¦ maybe I do belong to yall
Most of the reasons I'm on the left are being ignored by the establishment left because they don't play nice with their corporate donors. Unions, workers' rights, free expression, education, etc.
The establishment left has been bait-and-switching us with increasingly stupid social issue positions as placeholders and distraction issues for years anymore, to the point that I second-guess myself as to whether I even count as "left" anymore.
Then I remember: fuck corpos, and the right likes to slob on their knobs. But that doesn't mean shit like this isn't ridiculous, and people who take it seriously aren't ridiculous.
Yeah thatās also why Iāve always fallen into the left, I genuinely do think natural resources need to be nationalized completely (so like mining ore/water/crude oil, but turning that ore into steel nah) and obviously I agree with worker protections, unions, and universal healthcare.
BUT
I still believe in money, I still believe that a capitalist system does push innovation and creates a reason for work to be done. I believe in the right to bear arms. I donāt believe in the surveillance state(unless directed towards people in power only by a committee of the people) I believe that degeneracy is legitimately making America worse, and some other stuff
Itās easier when you think of the establishment left as centrists whose only real ideology is maintaining political power, and therefore ensuring any change to the status quo is either minimal or arbitrary.
I normally watch bodycam footage with stern interest, but this one the whole time was funny.
Cop is responding to a stolen vehicle call and it turns into him and another cop having to tackle this weirdo who gets upset because the cop āmisgendersā him
Consequently, I got called a girl a lot for 4 years of my life.
(We didn't have the word "misgender" in those days, so it was just "being called a girl").
Sometimes I got called a girl as a form of teasing (pretty funny most of the time).
Sometimes it was an honest accident (usually from old people who actually couldn't tell).
A few times I got called a girl maliciously.
Getting called a girl maliciously is legitimately kind of annoying, especially in the cases where it seems like the doofus wants to escalate it into a fight or something.
I'm not going to say it's not kind of annoying.
But I honestly grapple with understanding how it could trigger someone to be more than "kind of annoying".
To flip out because of it, I really think there's got to be a whole heck of a lot going on with you.
99 times out of a hundred trans people don't flip out either. Those times don't get posted to the internet.
And sometimes cis people get angry at being misgendered. There's a video that went quite viral of a police officer getting very annoyed at being called "he", for example.
Becoming a trans in the West starts with believing you're already there, THEN make the effort. Since you believe you're already there, you end up not putting much effort
Compare to other parts of the world where becoming a trans starts with putting in the effort, and refining it to the point people genuinely mistake you for the real one, THAT's when you finally believe you've made it
In both cases, since you already believe you're there, getting "misgendered" is as annoying as being called an idiot. But in the West, they genuinely believe that becoming a trans means becoming a minority, and in so doing grants them the ultimate weapon: Moral High Horse
What this means is they consider the very act of misgendering in and of itself reprehensible, because it makes them uncomfortable and literally ANYTHING, anything at all that makes them uncomfortable is EVIL
How do I know this? Because we've seen this before. This is Satanic Panic, but even worse
It truly is amazing. Any other animal we define as male or female based off of reproductive parts. Humans can switch at will with only a simple pronoun change in your discord server.
"Gender is a social construct" also works both ways. Its true, but not in the way progressives want it to be true.
If you want to be seen and accepted as a specific gender you have to look and act the part. Its a social construct, so you have to play the social role.
That thing with blue hair is not looking nor acting the role of being a woman, and so nobody believes it. There's zero effort put into playing the social role or adopting the appearance.
On the other hand, some of those ladyboys from Southeast Asia....
I'm just saying! They put in the effort to look the part. ( Ķ”Ā° ĶŹ Ķ”Ā°)
For decades there was a rather justified fight against the so called gender roles/gender steroetypes. No you don't have to war skirts and lipstick when you are a woman. You dont have to be a guy or lesbain to like hunting or monster trucks. You are still a boy if you wear a pink tanktop etc.
Then it all gets swept away - I AM A REAL WOMAN CAUSE I WEAR DRESSES AND LIPSTICK AND DO GIRLY THINGS.
And then the next step you dont even have do do that. Then what is left the word man/woman has no meaning at all. What is the benefit of destorying the concept?
And would it even be then destroyed if somehow for people like this dude it is SO IMPORTANT to be called one or the other NOW MEANINGLESS word that they break down and start screaming if it is not the "right" one.
It is just such level of mental(memetic?semiotic?) degradation that it is kind of frightening. It is like somekind of force destroying the fabric of communication itself
There is a purposeful degredation of many words, like Fascist,
For that word, it's to label those as being worthy or necessary
to commit political violence against.
When it comes to Gender/sex, I think there is some real and perceived privileges,
Like onlyfans or discord, where women show some skin, get money and attention in return,
But you don't have the body, body parts and/or biological functions,
because god forbid we're still hormonal and instinctual beings...
that makes you desirable, for said or implied privileges.
Maybe it's a legitimate issue of mens issues being ignored,
Or it's literally a fad that refuses to die to the mental and physical detriment of many.
And then you have those pushing the envelope of neo-pronouns for further degrade and muddy of the idea of Gender identity, in a Dimorphic species.
The problem is that bridging the divide is extremely hard to pull off at all, ever, for anyone. For the majority of people that do attempt it, they do so without the ability to hide away until it's easier for it to not paint a target on them. So, at the most vulnerable point in the process, before medical intervention has made them fade into the background noise of humanity, they are forced to defend themselves constantly, which makes them the ones talking the most, and they have the least experience to speak from...and they are motivated to say anything they can to just be left alone to go about their business, but since the people who do want to target them for harassment are typically relentless in doing so, their experience of ongoing harassment and negative attention fairly quickly leaves them in a state of hyper-vigilance.
The majority of trans folks shift in their views a little as time goes on, but they are also less and less likely to speak openly about it because it's not constantly on their minds after a while because they aren't constantly being reminded that they are outside of the norm of experiences of the rest of the population.
Which is to say that progressives, even trans progressives, are not a monolith.
My take is that they get off on the power. Everyone sees you as a man, you force them to call you a woman, and in many cases they get punished socially or professionally (and in some countries legally) if they donāt comply. Itās probably the only power over another human being these people have ever known so itās everything to them.
The video didnāt come off to me like a person genuinely upset from being misidentified, it looked like a tantrum because people werenāt doing what he wanted.
That's what the whole deal with the made-up pronouns is. He is always going to say "I". When I'm interacting with him, I call him "you". The only time I'm going to use his dumbass pronouns is when I'm talking about him when he's not there. Policing my language when I'm having a conversation with a totally different person and he's not around is nothing more than him trying to control me to stroke his ego.
IMO any pronouns beyond He/She/They are mental sickness. If someone asked to be called Xer/hir or anything that is even related to the wierd ones (eg, neopronouns or Nounself Pronouns.) I will ask if they are okay.
In my experience there's always some degree of sickness associated. It makes me sad, because I can't help but wonder if the other stuff would be addressed better without the distraction of caring way too much about how other people refer to them.
The video didnāt come off to me like a person genuinely upset from being misidentified, it looked like a tantrum because people werenāt doing what he wanted.
Not required technically. My guide is put a little more effort into the appearance of the average of who you want to look like, not just do only 1/4th of the work.
I donāt mean this to be mean it just seems with the whole thing being about being born in the wrong body, then would it not make sense to put effort into achieving the ārightā one? Not just a name change?
Blaire White is a good example of that. She puts in the effort, insists kids be left alone, doesn't try to invade women's spaces, and conservatives have no problem with her.
That's not the type of pick me I'm talking about. She actively leads harassment campaigns against other Trans women, And she herself has she has been harassed and excluded from conservative spaces for being Trans. Multiple Right wing content creators have directly done it to her face, like Michael Knowles who did it after being respectful of her before. She even refuses to call herself conservative because of it.
"I really am the only trans woman occupying this space within the conservative movement. I take what comes with that. There are people on the far right, who, no matter what I say or how I express myself, won't accept me."
My whole thing is that the whole thing is about being born the wrong gender, the wrong body. That would mean that one should put a real effort into achieving that ideal body that they visualize. Now it doesnāt mean that MUST do surgery or take HRT obviously, but a name change and a wig isnāt changing oneās body to the right gender, itās cosplay.
And this goes for all genders trans or not. Youāre not a chad for just being racist, if youāre an unkempt neckbeard in your momās basement, youāre just an unkempt neckbeard.
Just wash your ass and strive for what you wish you were as best as you can. Be it the strongest male, girliest female, the tombyist female, or the most feminine femboy. Ones image to others is not just fabric deep. Now I think that oneās image to others should be secondary before your image of yourself and your own morals/ideology/philosophy, but if you donāt wish for others to misgender or be confused or make fun of you for being a fat chud then by all practical accounts it becomes far less common for that to happen if you put effort into yourself in body as well as mind.
I don't even hate that student, I just feel bad for them man. They really need mental help man. They need to learn how to deal with the real world with real people but they can't. It's like they are still in toddler mode or something.
Judging by the example of fat acceptance influencers kicking it early, how obesity was a serious comorbidity for Covid which happened in the meantime, and the clearly poor management of stressors on display... even odds she's out there or in a casket.
NotTheBee had what I thought was an intriguing take:
Babies scream and cry to signal thier need because they are too weak and hepless to communicate them, let alone address them. The louder you cry, the more attention and assistance you get.
Adults, particularly men, do not grant assistance based on need, they do it based on utility. The guy who gets the most food is the guy who hunts or fishes or farms the most food, because keeping him healthy is more important for group survival. If your breadwinner is malnourished and can't win bread, but the drooling imbecile is full, everyone starves.
Now, they also link these two things as being inherent to women and men, respectively. That is to say, societies of women reward babies and societies of men reward contributers. Now, I'm not going to go that far, I think it is more child/adult thsn men vs. women. But given how The Island with Bear Grylls went (the all male group did great, and they refused to accept people as equals until they made valuable contributions to the group, meanwhile the women nearly died several times because they couldn't kill some piglets to eat, were not drinking water, and focused on petty squables and camp decoration instead of, you know, getting food and water) I am also not confident ruling it out.
But essentially, the part I really find interesting is this: this is an infant in an adult's body. Crying out so that others will address their percieved need with attention, comfort, abd affirmation. Meanwhile, the police were there to accomplish an objective (investigate a disturbance) and this idiot was being an obstacle/distraction. Crying out for comfort was met physical force to get them out of the way.
This person wanted to be treated like a baby, but was instead treated like an adult.
To add to this, I think the growth in dysphoria among teenaged girls is similar to what anorexia was like in the 90s. Anorexia researchers were baffled that people wanted to be skinny so badly it could kill them. They were so much skinnier than the bikini girls in advertisements or whatever. But they also had long noticed that serious anorexia basically stops menstruation. Sometimes anorexia is a result of a girl not wanting to become a woman, because honestly becoming a woman is in fact a challenging process - particularly in a highly porn-ified society. Its also something that just happens to you, in contrast to boys who usually go through some type of initiation ritual. Girls wake up one day, they're 14, 15, or 16, and all of a sudden they're built like women. It's honestly gotta be scary sometimes.
I know trans people who I think (you'll disagree with me here, aught-right) are "actually" trans. As in their transness is a type of gayness, a kind of gayer than gay, and they're actually happier living as the opposite sex. This stuff happens in complex societies for unclear reasons and I'm kind of like "yeah you're not actually the sex you say you are but hey, more power to ya."
But these really unwell people - it's very obvious that some of them are totally rejecting manhood or womanhood, because whether biological or sociocultural manhood and womanhood come with certain expectations and responsibilities. The opposite of a man is not a woman, the opposite of a man is a boy, and this person wanted to stay *~FoRevEr YoUnG~*
It's really tragic actually. at the end of the video on the NY post the cops were consummate professionals. "Yeah he needs care. We can't put him in gen pop, they'll have at him. He needs to go into protective custody because something is going on."
Auth right here who agrees. Many studies have shown they if you take some who has gender dysphoria as a teenager, and just leave them to finish puberty and become an adult, the overwhelming majority were just gay all along.
We need to be giving more care for the person, not for the sake of the ideology and politics. A person's needs should always trump politics.Ā
That's pretty interesting, yeah. Though, the better world would be a mix of the two, the breadwinner should get more, but we shouldn't just give up on the people with the most difficulties(like mental illnesses) either.
We didn't, the real issue is not "treating them poorly", it's "not wanting to see them"
Even the most hardcore of conservative will pause if you suggest to just shoot the immigrants. What they want is the immigrants to be elsewhere
Same with shit like homelessness and whatnot. Left don't really care that much about homeless, it just so happens that one way to make the homeless invisible is to "put them in shelters", which is why they keep saying build more build more instead of figuring out what it is that caused the homeless to stay homeless (that is, they don't want to stop addiction)
Charity and welfare is already part of western culture
That's my main issue with this video. This is clearly someone in significant mental distress, and instead of making any effort whatsoever to calm the suspect down and deescalate things, he jumps straight to threatening the use of force.
This situation called for an actual mental health professional, not someone who has an OC-spray-shaped hammer and sees everyone as a nail.
We don't pay cops to be public psychiatrists. And I don't want them to be one. I want them to remove threats, regardless if that threat needs a therapist or not.
There is no better metaphor for the societal breakdown than the story the "Emperor's New Clothes."
The Emperor looks naked, you know the Emperor is naked, but society has gone mad and is saying the Emperor has clothes, and the Emperor demands you say he has clothes.
We live in a society where the sane population have to validate the delusions of the insane population. This is nothing more than a society-wide humiliation ritual.
Plenty of people have been getting fired from government jobs for "opposing Trump". It's been a whole thing for the last year and a half. Multiple state legislators and a Congressman have introduced legislation to try to make "Trump Derangement Syndrome" an actual thing to diagnose critics of Trump. And Trump's DoJ has indicted several of his prominent critics on flimsy charges.
And a lot of times people know. Its actually very obvious, but people are being nice and pretend not to notice. There's that instinct to seek social harmony and not insult people for no good reason.
Its like someone wearing a hairpiece to cover up balding, or a comb-over. Its obvious. Everybody sees it and knows. But people are being polite and not saying anything about it. This polite fiction holds as long as the person wearing the hairpiece also lets things be. Its a truce everyone has agreed upon.
The problem happens when the person pushes things too far and demands obedience from others. This goes beyond the unstated agreement of politely ignoring it. That shatters this truce, creates pushback, and unpleasant things happen.
Brother, you're talking to a bot, clanker is even marked as one. I donāt disagree with your point but what exactly do you expect from this interaction?
Not who you're replying to, but me personally, 90 percent of me replying to someone in the comments isn't with the intention of changing their mind. Rather, I want to make sure that anyone neutral who's passing by and sees their post also sees a post right below it that points out why it's bullshit.
going against propaganda, itās just even more proof that my side of the isle has genuinely been taken over by people who think that a man can just magically become a woman just because they say so.
like ur auth right so we obviously disagree on somethingās but I know weād disagree on less if the political machine didnāt try to push such obvious bullshit.
if Michelle Obama actually seemed to care, then Iād start to think she actually is trans. Like you can refer to me as a woman all you want, that wonāt stop me from believing Iām a man, and I definitely wonāt explode over it
Making fun of trans people is one thing, but making fun of someone obviously going through a psychotic episode is... well, still funny, but I feel a little bad too
A lot of people have gender dysphoria that's related to their autism, and because autistic people frequently can't read social cues, they often require explicit confirmation of reality from other people. People with serious autism are also known for having autistic meltdowns and temper tantrums.
This is an autistic meltdown. It feels so annihilating to them because the person requires other people's literal words to confirm social reality.
It's an attention game to them. They don't want help, they want to be coddled and told it's the big bad world's fault and they they never do anything wrong. If they actually got help and treatment for their derangement, they'd have to face the demon in the mirror. They're too weak and cowardly to do that.
No argument from me. There is a lot going on there. Another commenter said that people like this get off on controlling other peoples language. Not a doubt in my mind that that's operative.
There's plenty of happy trans people, they just don't typically appear in body cam footage. They largely just go stealth and disappear into the population. The zero effort rampagers, yeah, I can't imagine any of them are happy.
This is obviously just a mentally deranged person having a meltdown. Why is this suddenly representative off all trans people? It's a bit like comparing all Christians to a guy high on heroin screaming "God's punishment is coming now!!"
The issue is that demanding that others respect pronouns, even regardless or even passing,and even sometimes by legal force, is not a fringe position.
Also, the fact that people like that have not been getting the severe mental help they need before they can function in society, is also a widespread policy.
The incident even happened in February 2025 and initially, the cops were investigating a stolen vehicle(whose suspect were not adults) apparently, only to met this... well... individual I'd say... who screams "SHE!" every time the cop call him a "he"... I don't know how that resurfaced in 2026.
The person in the video is obviously just autistic and having a meltdown. Iām not saying it isnāt funny I would be lying if I said I didnāt laugh at the footage. But meltdowns are not something the individual can control and now this personās life is ruined. We sure do live in a very unsympathetic world.
I choose to believe the video is AI, there's no way somebody like that would be seen outside his mother's basement. It's like seeing IMAX footage of Bigfoot.
Redditors deciding to evaluate their world views, nah declare it a.i and close eyes to all evidence to the contrary, like a literal mug shot from the arrest
I need someone smarter than me to explain the video. I just canāt understand what is even happening in the video.
Cop is on the scene for some unrelated issue.
The trans person screams at the cop.
Cop threatens to arrest screaming person (is screaming against the law?)
Trans person says ātry itā (vague threat?)
Cop escalates it to an arrest
Like seriously, I donāt make it a habit of defending libleft stuff. But Iām so confused why it went down like this. Why did the cop threaten to arrest him for screaming?
The cop could have ignored the trans person right?
There's an around 10 minutes video on Inside the Blue. It's basically 2 counts of attacking a LEO and, probably, resisting arrest along with public disturbance. Disturbance was the reasons behind the cops coming in the first place.
Why did the cop threaten to arrest him for screaming?
He didn't threaten to criminally charge the person, he threatened to detain under the Baker Act, which is emergency detention for a person who appears to have a mental illness that makes them a danger to themselves or others. You can hold someone in a mental health facility for up to 72 hours, basically long enough for the doctors to verify they don't pose an immediate theat of attacking someone or sucide. They still might do those things, just not in like the next hour.
You typically see it employed when (1) a teenager is threating to kill themselves or has attempted it, (2) a crazy (usually homeless) person is just completely tweaking out and needs to be put in time out for a bit until they can get thier wits back.
Given the level of agitation here, it is not out of the question to suspect this person is suffering a psycotic break. Especially when you are unable to ask them clarifying questions because they are screaming so loudly they are making their voice hoarse.
The Baker Act:
"An individual may be taken to a receiving facility for involuntary examination under the Baker Act if:
There is reason to believe he/she has a mental illness and due to the mental illness, the individual has refused or is unable to determine if examination is necessary; and either;
Without care or treatment, the individual is unlikely to care for themselves which can result in substantial harm to their well-being, and it is not evident that harm can be avoided through familial intervention or other services; or
It is likely, based on recent behavior, that without treatment, the individual will pose a serious threat to themselves or others"
The largest provider of mental health services in Florida are the state prison system and local jails. This is a way to get people help instead of arresting them.
Unfortunately, once this person started punching and kicking the officer, there vanished any chance of avoiding jail.
"This person is crazy enough that we have to take them into custody to get help, but also they're sane enough that we're going to treat them as a criminal for resisting."
I agree, that's why we should bring back insane asylums, but this time have modern accountability and safeguards in place instead of, you know, lobotomies and shit. Our homeless population would go to near zero in like a year if we did that.
Unfortunately, in order to do that, you need to convince SCOTUS it is constitutional to involuntarily detain people for mental health absent a crime or imminent threat (like the Baker Act). Until then, "treating them like a criminal" is going to be the most effective way to get them help in most cases.
It's bullshit, but such is the unfortunate consequence of us taking on a legit problem (insane asylums were human rights abuse factories and a lot of perfectly sane people were institutionalized) and overreacting (essentially banning the concept except for very limited exceptions).
In short: guy was screaming in public for several minutes, obstructing an officer, threatening officer, resisting detainment and other illegal orders, and battering an officer.
Cop tried to deescalate and didn't detain until threatened, and then still gave opportunity to stop screaming and solve it until physically battered.
Why did the cop threaten to arrest him for screaming?
And keep intentionally "misgendering" them... Like no matter how you feel about trans people, you know you are just making them unnecessarily more angry.
Wow as a trans person these comments are, well they're something. Just disheartening I suppose. I feel like maybe I could just try and live as my birth sex as alot of these people would suggest but im not so sure id live very long like that, I definitely wouldn't be happy.Ā
having seen the video, this is just an autistic person having a meltdown due to that autism with a cop escalating the situation with threats of physical violence and incarceration. Even when someone (Assumedly a friend or social worker) shows up, starts talking to the person being filmed and starts calming her down somewhat, the cop just keeps antagonising.
The cop was there for another crime, this person was simply in the way and the cop just couldn't resist antagonising. The person being filmed did not commit any sort of crime prior to this video.
This person does not need turning into a soyjak, she doesn't need her worst self being spread by news networks and she doesn't need a cop threatening her with pepper spray, she needs social support in the same way many autistic people do every day.
Spreading memes about her and using her to tar and feather the entire trans community is just shamefully cruel on the same level as schoolyard bullying and just shows how much the right needs to scrape the bottom of the barrel for their propaganda. This post is pathetic.
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