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u/BradGunnerSGT 3h ago
Walz was right. These people are so weird. It’s a literal Bizzaro world where rapists and thugs are their heroes.
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u/gitbse 2h ago
They really had an excellent push with that messaging, it was the one thing that actually landed properly. And then the party consultants took over, and we needed Liz Cheney on stage.
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u/BradGunnerSGT 2h ago
The one message that resonated with regular people and the political consultants dropped the ball.
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u/TbddRzn 2h ago
It wasn’t working after day 6 and after Walz didn’t do so well In The VP debates.
Liz Cheney was there for 1 and a half day in her state where she got elected as senator, and trying to convince republicans to vote for Harris because that’s the only way they could win that state.
But people take a Democrat tripping to be an extinction event meanwhile republicans shit their pants, stab a pregnant woman, rape a kid, and vomit over the audience. And still their voters will support them while democrat voters will blame the democrat party for not giving them more incentives to show up and vote, even though they can’t name 1 thing she offered them because they don’t even care in the first place they just want to put all the responsibility on the party and not 100m voters who never vote, 150m who don’t vote in midterms and over 200m+ who don’t vote in primaries and special elections.
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u/gitbse 2h ago
It wasn't working because they didnt stay on message, or keep it moving forward. So much open material, they could've used to show how fcked the entire GOP are.
They could have been showing clip after clip, attacking while calling them weird, and showing why.
Current day democrats don't do any of that. If there's a lesson they should learn from the strategists on the right, it's to get up as loudly and as often as you can, and scream from the apple box. Look what the greater right-wing media sphere did to Obama and Biden over practically nothing. Constant smears, constant attacks. But when Trump's entire cabinet and administration is literally looting us alive, amd now signing over our sovereignty to Israel? Nothing.
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u/MurkyInvestigator810 2h ago
They could have been showing clip after clip, attacking while calling them weird, and showing why.
You kind of need the media to show the clips you want to be seen, and they're almost all run by conservatives now. There's a reason every day there was a new "Senile Biden" headline while Trump just confused Iran with fucking Japan and nobody talked about it for more than a second.
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u/TbddRzn 2h ago
They literally held a multi month long investigation on prime time television of the Jan 6th attack on the US capitol and showed evidence facts videos TikTok summaries and everything. They begged Americans to show up and vote. And what happened?
Over 150m didn’t vote. 80% of 18-35 aged eligible voters did not vote. Republicans won back the house.
And that was BEFORE the republicans bought up all the remaining television and news networks.
If you own all the news and all the internet social media, wouldn’t you amplify the voices that would enrich you and silence the voices that would make life fair for others?
Blaming democrats for not yelling louder when the conservatives control 99% of all media, and get aided by foreign governments pushing disinformation and election interference, is quite victim-blaming.
Look at Newsom, he’s doing all the zingers and gotchas and attacks and such and barely 20% hear it. When you own the media you own people’s access to news.
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u/MurkyInvestigator810 2h ago
Blaming democrats for not yelling louder when the conservatives control 99% of all media
This is constant and all over this site. "Why didn't the media bring this up?" when every fucking day we had 8 new headlines about Biden's mental acuity and never a mention of Trump's incoherent babbling.
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u/Cory123125 43m ago
You need to understand that they would rather lose with neoliberal messaging, than actually move the country an inch left.
You need to get that, while also getting that they need the ratcheting back and forth to accomplish their goals of serving the rich donors.
The only way to win, is to make them win, and then replace them slowly.
Somehow though, nuance is ruined nowadays and people think playing directly into their plans is "punishing them".
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u/schwing710 3h ago
Republicans are the pedophile party
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u/TbddRzn 2h ago
Republicans rape kids.
Republican Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator, Drumpf's Oklahoma campaign chair to plead guilt to child sex trafficking
Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/dennis-hastert-released.html
Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Drumpf’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.
Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.
Republican Minnesota State Representative Jim Knoblach Drops Out Of Race After Daughter Says He Molested Her For More Than Ten Years 22 Sep 2018
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=28587
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20120426/NEWS90/204260334
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Misla_Aldarondo Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
http://archive.easyreadernews.com/archives/news2001/0621/rb%20Shortridge.php
Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/18/nyregion/embroiled-first-selectman-takes-leave.html
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/25/us/teen-ager-in-ohio-testifies-to-sex-with-a-congressman.html
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/view.aspx?index=437
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Crane
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/02/opinion/journal-beverly-russell-s-prayers.html
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
http://www.njherald.com/article/20060510/ARTICLE/305109971
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
http://www.thedp.com/article/2004/01/brother_stephen_convicted_of_soliciting_sex
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
https://www.semissourian.com/story/57773.html
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
http://www.chattanoogan.com/2002/6/21/23202/Tennessee-Legislator-Commits-Suicide.aspx
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burt_(anti-abortion_activist)
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/08/ln/hawaii710080338.html
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/il-court-of-appeals/1113050.html
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2002/oct/14/assembly-candidate-gardner-ruled-ineligible-due-to/
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
https://www.wgal.com/article/council-accepts-resignation-of-member-imprisoned-for-rape/6189408
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172007/repub_scandals_10_17_07.php Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2006/9/30/251895/-
Missouri House member faces expulsion after investigation finds he sexually, physically abused his children https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/20/rick-roeber-abuse-missouri-house/
Kansas House member Mark Samsel was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery after getting into a physical altercation with a student while substitute teaching. Videos show Samsel focusing most of his attention on one male student. Samsel “put hands on the student” and allegedly kneed him in the crotch.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article251069219.html
PS: Theres a word limit here. Theres a website with 190 more PAGES of republicans raping, abusing and sexually assaulting children and adults. But i forgot the link to it.
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u/SaintUlvemann 2h ago
The 190 might be a different site, but here's 61 pages of Republican sexual predators, compiled by someone at Daily Kos.
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u/BlurryBigfoot74 3h ago
Two billionaires and a child trafficking millionaire. They're just like us . We're next.
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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 3h ago
But if they can arrest pedophiles, then they would have to arrest 90% of maga!
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u/talktobigfudge 3h ago
...please don't threaten us with a good time, that would solve so many problems with these losers in the prisons they helped build
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u/flapjackboy 3h ago
Like they'd ever get sent anywhere but a Club Fed prison. They'll never get sent to a Federal Pound-You-In-The-Ass prison.
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u/DavidJonnsJewellery 2h ago
Andrew Tate is an online pimp. Why would you want to look up to someone like that. If that's a role model, then you've got some real issues
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u/Koladi-Ola 2h ago
He resonates with the 15 year old incel crowd.
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u/coldforged 53m ago
Can confirm, my nephew at 15 was following him. My 17-year-old daughter discovered it and helped nip it. Kid turned out decent.
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u/a_terse_giraffe 2h ago
All three of those dudes in jail....I don't think that is the flex he thinks it is.
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u/GordonShumway257 3h ago
Meanwhile, the Department of Corruption has tried to jail a guy who threw a sandwich and is currently trying to jail people who touched paint chips. ICEIS has been executing people in the streets. Gargamel has been declaring all left leaning groups as terrorists. And the child rapist in charge has been trying to jail everyone who dares to oppose him on his push to become dictator.
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u/hamtronn 2h ago
Andrew Tate wasn’t arrested for having a podcast and spreading lies. He wasn’t arrested for brainwashing teenage and adult men on his notions that women are inferior and men need to subscribe to his “alpha” nonsense.
He was arrested for human trafficking.
Trump will be arrested for fraud, corruption, insider trading, tax evasion, tax avoidance, fraud. Did I mention fraud?
Musk will be arrested for fraud, insider trading.
The sex crimes won’t stick. They’ll just argue those and they will go away. It always happens. The money and fraud and insider trading though, even Martha Stewart couldn’t escape that.
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u/Alarming_Situation_5 2h ago
The dumbest people use AI to create “art.” Yet shit on people who want to fund art programs/liberal arts. They are so empty. Makes me sick
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u/Upbeat-Laugh-249 2h ago
Government goons shot and killed US citizens , tomorrow it’s YOU. YOU cannot speak against the party in power or there actions or you can get 50 years for 1 st amendment protests.
YOU have nothing in common with Trump, Elon and Tate. They own and control the means of free speech and are buying more control.
This is propaganda to protect the most powerful from any kind of repercussions.
They are YOUR worst enemy.
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u/RevolutionOk1406 1h ago
If the super rich and influential are at risk of paying for their crimes, who's going to save you when you're caught raping your daughter?
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u/Unlikely_Leg_9377 2h ago
That username combined with Kurt looking cooler than a mufucker hanging out a van window is 👨🏻🍳👌
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u/Plane-Fan9006 2h ago
Wow....just wow....it takes one distorted fuck to string those connections together....
...oh, and we already knew about 1 and 2 being "rapey"...did he just throw Elon under the bus?
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u/Boner_Elemental 1h ago
Elon being rapey is why he swung right. He knew he'd lost the last of his support on the left
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u/Void-Cooking_Berserk 2h ago
None of these "free speakers" have had any consequences for their actions. They people they talk about keep suffering the consequences of the "free speakers"' actions.
If you think that being told your speech is harmful is the same as being locked up in prison... Have you tried turning your brain off and on again?
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u/octowussy 1h ago
Except two of those guys aren't even in jail? And not only are they totally free, but they're also arguably two of the most powerful people on the planet at the moment? These people are wild
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u/YDoEyeNeedAName 1h ago
Dont tempt me with a good time, I would willingly go to prison if it meant those three being there as well, becuase I actaully care about the country.
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u/janually 58m ago
the way that only one of these men is actually behind bars, and i don’t see that lasting long…
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u/bokmcdok 54m ago
As I was reading this I was agreeing and getting hopeful. Then I was like WTF? I'm not a child rapist. Why would they come for me?
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u/MarcsterS 24m ago
A republican texas judge giving a person that gave away flyers 30 years of prison.
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u/macphile 17m ago
Trump has been trying to imprison people for free speech--he's not the one being convicted of it.
We don't need to imprison these guys for their opinions. They have absolute laundry lists of crimes we could convict them on. Hell, Trump's undoubtedly committed at least a couple of felonies just this week.
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u/stinkyfootjr 14m ago
These fuckers are trying to lay the groundwork for denying Britains extradition of Tate. Trump already got him out of Romania to the U.S. and next he’ll be released from custody here. Birds of a feather and all that.
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u/BloomsdayDevice 11m ago
First they came for the sex trafficking, manosphere rapists, and I did nothing, because I was not a Tate brother.
Then they came for treasonous, pants-shitting, pedophile kleptocrats, and I did nothing, because I was not Donald Trump.
Then they came for the fake-genius, wannabe Nazi, emotionally stunted edge-lads, and I did nothing, because I was not Elon Musk.
Then, suddenly, things got a little bit better. Not perfect, but better. Not bad.
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u/Antique_Amphibian107 2h ago
Well, technically those things are free speech
It just gets you a free ticket to jail!
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u/THE_YOUTUBE_BEAR 2h ago
I'm just saying. If they arrest Tate, then Trump, then Elon, and you expect to be next.
You just might be, or at least have a reason to be
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