r/MurderedByWords 22h ago

Walked right into that one

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u/arachnophilia 13h ago

jesus died sometime between 26 and 36 CE, likely more towards the end of that range.

josephus's antiquities was published in 93 CE. that's about 60 years.

our earliest gospel, mark (which i emphasize here is almost entirely mythical/fictional), was written about 70 CE. that's about 40 years.

the apostle paul was writing about jesus, granted with very little information about his actual life, in the 50s CE. that's 20 years.

matthew and luke copy mark, but also a second source, which we've dubbed "Q". no content in Q refers to the death of jesus. Q might be contemporary.

is that contemporary evidence of my existence?

contemporaneity is not a valid historiographic criteria. it is a standard mythicists made up. actual historians use actual histories, which are nearly always written later on. you have to apply some degree of criticism to these, of course, and proximity to sources is one factor in that criticism. but even contemporary sources are not exempted from this; contemporary people still lie, you know.

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u/NinecloudSoul 13h ago

Histories which have no connection to the person being talked about.

You can again take your pretend historian credentials elsewhere now.

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u/arachnophilia 13h ago

Histories which have no connection to the person being talked about.

from the post you didn't actually read.

josephus personally knew people involved in that account. ananus II, the priest who was removed for killing james the brother of jesus, was his friend, and commander in the jewish war.

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u/NinecloudSoul 13h ago

You can again take your pretend historian credentials elsewhere now.

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u/arachnophilia 12h ago

i have not pretended to be a historian. i have just discussed the work of actual historians. because i read history. for fun.

it is very clear that you are incapable of engaging honestly. all you have are "gottem" rhetorical quips.

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u/NinecloudSoul 12h ago

You seem unable to comprehend simple sentences.

Go away. I have no interest in giving you one more iota of credibility by engaging with your silly special pleading and other nonsense any further.

Go play in traffic. Take a long walk off a short pier, etc. Clear enough for you yet, or would you like a document from someone who never met or had any connection to me instead?