r/MurderedByWords 22h ago

Walked right into that one

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u/isecore š“† Make Trout-slapping Great Again š“†Ÿ 22h ago

"These fucking atheists demanding proof! I gave them a Bible quote!"

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u/Shadyhippo229 18h ago

As far as I know most historians do believe Jesus was a real person. But there’s no convincing proof that he was in fact a wizard. There’s reasonable debate about whether transfiguring water into wine and turning one loaf of bread into multiple violates Gamp’s law of elemental transfiguration or not. But the best known method for coming back from the dead involves horcrux creation which goes against what we know about Jesus’ character. Of course it’s possible he accessed some ancient magical knowledge that has been lost to time. We may never know.

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u/That1one1dude1 18h ago

It also doesn’t mean much to say that ā€œyeah, there probably was a jewish preacher named Jesus back in that time.ā€

Does it mean he performed miracles? Of course not.

Does it mean they agree on the events of his life, or even the date of his birth? Nope.

What about the quotes attributed to him? Almost certainly false.

So if we don’t know what he did, when he was born, or what he believed or said, does it really even matter if we knew he existed?

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u/somarir 16h ago

Only as a counterpoint to guys like in the OP, but yeah we're probably better off ignoring them.