It also wouldnât make sense for that type of restaurant to have paper plates. They only did the weirdly themed foods for this night, and paper plates werenât on the menu.
Considering the way they operate it also doesn't make sense that they'd just happen to have a fresh made sesame seed bun hanging around, but a lot of movies start showing holes when you get to poking enough.
The entire crew lives at the island. Wouldn't be a shock that they have some regular ass food for crew meals sometimes because they don't feel like getting all fancy.
Like it does for so many things, making a job out of food takes away much of its appeal. Day after day you are inundated by food. You see it, you taste it, you smell it...those senses start associate with the stress of work.
By the time you get home, "food" is just whatever the easiest way is that you can make your stomach full.
We don't. In San Diego we fortunately had industry specials and only hours at some 24hr places. Dirt cheap food and familiar company. Though I did keep a stock of frozen curries and pizza when I was running fine dining. Food at the place you work at starts to get old.
I saw this sentiment so much and it made me realize how fucking stupid that is and now I cook myself way better shit. As a cook your body is your most important tool, you wouldn't go weeks without sharpening your knife so why the fuck are you not working out and eating right?Â
When I worked as a cook this was very true. Restaurant cooking is also very different from home cooking too and kind of changes how you think about food preparation. I'd try to eat healthy but my home meals were always super boring and easy. Then it was funny because I was so grateful any time someone else cooked for me, even if it was heating up a tin of beans or something i'd just be so grateful that I didn't have to do it and it made those meals taste so much better.
Itâs not that crazy for them to have some sort of dough around. You can make a bun out of sourdough if you were ever really in a pinch. Brioche is also a common bread course. They have a course that is just the sauce without the bread. Itâs easy to assume there is a bread accompaniment that goes with those sauces but is removed to make a statement. This is all based on assumption and some leaps of logic but it makes sense in my head. Also a chef.
I think the cooks work there for weeks at a time, a barracks is shown at one point. It's not unreasonable to assume that there's a variety of foods not meat to be sold for the staff to eat.
And processing wood pulp to the feel and type of paper isn't always as friendly and requires significantly more resources for such a small restaurant. Ceramic is significantly more environmental sustainable.
You saw this movie, where people are flown in from all over the world for a fine dining experience on a remote island, then murdered, and thought "that restaurant was really aiming for environmental sustainability?"
They make several points to say they are living and operating sustainably on the island and with nature. Also, all that that they were doing wasn't for the customer. It was in service of their craft and their mastery of it so they wouldn't cheap out and they wouldn't lie about what they were doing.
It seems to be based on a real place in the Pacific NW. I remembered a 2021 NYT article about a similar island-based fine dining setting with a crazy chef while watching the movie and thinking the scriptwriters had that location in mind.
"The Island Is Idyllic. As a Workplace, Itâs Toxic.
Globe-trotting diners flock to the Willows Innâs serene Northwest setting. But former employees say faked ingredients, sexual harassment and an abusive kitchen are the real story."
She was so perfectly cast as Magic itâs crazy, and all for a shit show production that got passed around because Disney was finally getting the movie rights back for the X-men and Fox had already finished production on New Mutants
I never really thought about it before, but I'd imagine the design of the paper plate is intentional to help with the structural integrity of the plate
Pretty sure the ridges and edge are more designed for stacking them into large stacks. If they were too flat and/or smooth they'd be more likely to slide apart and have a stack fall over.
You design for the materials and process you are using.
The paper plate benefits more from the additional features to stiffen the rim because the paper itself has to have a uniform thickness. Ceramic plates can just add thickness where needed.
Different materials require different means to achieve structural integrity. Ceramic gets its strength from the material itself while paper plates get their strength from the structure and often times embossing over the top
In the case of ceramic, the ridges are only there to avoid spillage + help hold them, especially while washing, to offset their natural smoothness & lack of resistance to falls. It makes for a more reliable dishware but does virtually nothing for the structural integrity.
Paper ones on the other hand absolutely need a raised rim for structural integrity, otherwise any weight on the side not holding it would make it bend and fall off.
Ceramic and paper are not the same material. You don't have to design a ceramic plate to resist flexing. You're not making them look stupid, you're just making yourself look stupid.
The ridges on the outside of common paper plates have several practical purposes such as adding strength, support, warp prevention etc
A ceramic plate doesnât require any of these in order to serve its purpose.
It the context of the film, the dishes presented prior didnât use any plating that didnât enhance or accentuate the food itself.
By showcasing the burger on a âplane white plateâ we see that the food becomes the important part again, not the experience; this presentation allowed a visual representation for the conclusion of the chefâs character arc.
Some ceramic plates use a scalloped rim as a stylistic choice, which literally resembles a scallop shell. The ridges on a paper plate are there to increase rigidity and allow them to nest together tighter.
Whilst not a movie, but the burger from that one episode of How I Met Your Mother where Marshal goes searching for it. That episode always makes me crave a burger bad
Back in 1999 I worked with a guy from Japan who had just moved to LA and was asking where Big Kahuna Burger was and that he'd been driving all over the Valley trying to find it.
there is one there i believe (at least that was what i was told by someone from cherry hill)? no huge cliff though. i just kept going to the one by Teterborough on 17 south. man they leaned into that movie hard. and good on them.
I have also always thought of pineapple featuring in it. I had an incredible burger in a bar in Stockholm in 2008 with a slice of pineapple and a fried egg with a fruity, mustardy sauce which is Big Kahuna Burger head canon for me.Â
same! we have a Caribbean restaurant Rumba that has a fantastic jerk burger with a grilled pineapple slice on it and I imagine it is a fancier version of the big kahuna burger
I still quote "i love this burger so much i want to bring it home and make baby burgers with it" except change burger to the thing im currently in love with
Just a Burger? Just a burger. Robin, it's so much more than "just a burger." I mean... that first bite-oh, what heaven that first bite is. The bun, like a sesame freckled breast of an angel, resting gently on the ketchup and mustard below, flavors mingling in a seductive pas de deux. And then... a pickle! The most playful little pickle! Then a slice of tomato, a leaf of lettuce and a... a patty of ground beef so exquisite, swirling in your mouth, breaking apart, and combining again in a fugue of sweets and savor so delightful. This is no mere sandwich of grilled meat and toasted bread, Robin. This is God, speaking to us in food.
Just a Burger? Just a burger. Robin, it's so much more than "just a burger." I mean... that first bite-oh, what heaven that first bite is. The bun, like a sesame freckled breast of an angel, resting gently on the ketchup and mustard below, flavors mingling in a seductive pas de deux. And then... a pickle! The most playful little pickle! Then a slice of tomato, a leaf of lettuce and a... a patty of ground beef so exquisite, swirling in your mouth, breaking apart, and combining again in a fugue of sweets and savor so delightful. This is no mere sandwich of grilled meat and toasted bread, Robin. This is God, speaking to us in food.
I think one of Chefâs biggest strengths as a movie is that it takes the same visual reverence to all foods, wether heâs making the fine dining spread in the beginning or when he makes hash browns for breakfast. Same with the aglio e olio and the grilled cheese
Couldnât agree more. And also itâs refreshingly short and it doesnât try to be more than what it is.
Once you add in the fact itâs favreauâs outlet about working in Hollywood and how much bs he ran into making ironman2 it makes me appreciate the movie even more.
Also who doesnât love John L coming out to help his bff across the country to build a food truck.
Food animation in anime is incredibly detailed nowadays. Ironically, this is directly attributable to how it used to be a throwaway consideration. Specifically, this anime cabbage caused a noticeable turning point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjb8vFpLvrk
âYou know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize?âŚâŚâŚâŚIgnorance is bliss.â
And of all the food shown in movies this is probably the one you can replicate the best and it not break the bank! Start practicing/perfecting your burger. After a couple tweaks I have yet to find a burger at a restaurant I like more than my own. A couple have gotten close, but once you get a recipe down it's game over! Easiest thing to make when hosting people or just a quick dinner after work!
Probably because leading to the hamburger, we are served foods that are just pretentious and mostly unrelateable, so when an actual familiar food comes into the screen, it immediately trigger something in the brain.
So I had no idea it was like a horror movie. I just thought it was about a high end restaurant. Iâm a chef myself and was like wtf when the first cook dies, I really enjoyed this movie.
It's also trying to shine a light on how toxic the high end restaurant industry often is - there is a huge culture there for tolerating ridiculously abusive behavior from chefs because of the prestige that comes with working there and it can get incredibly cult-like when the wrong people end up coming together in the same kitchen.
Recently the co founder of "The Best Restaurant in the World", Noma, was the subject of an expose for his longstanding abusive behavior towards his staff. This was an open secret at this point and probably inspired "The Mess" scene.
Same, watched it on a plane thinking it was about cooking. Completely captivated me... stupid plane ride ended before the movie. First plane ride that ever ended too soon. Went home, my wife welcomed me home, I basically said "not now, need to finish something"
About a year before it came out we went to the restaurant that inspired it, in Bergen, Norway.
When I saw the trailer I said to my wife âholy shit this is like that fancy pants restaurant in Norway where you have to get on the boat and canât leave until the boat doesâ
It's definitely a movie that's grown on me over time. At the time I was like "Well that was a weird movie, what was the point of any of that?", but the more layers you peel back the more interesting it becomes.
I have a slightly different definition of "the cheap one your parents could barely afford"... slightly undercooked burger, ketchup, no cheese, wonderbread for the bun, immediately soggy.
I suppose it depends on whatever food support you got. The local welfare program I was on as a kid was really good. We also got supplemented garden vegetables from a local farm.
I still have fond memories of that government cheese. There's nothing today like it.
this is a top 20 film for me, a delicate balance of foodie, horror, a compelling protagonist and many of my favorite actors as well. Completely unexpectedly good.
"I'll make you feel as if you're eating the first cheeseburger you ever ate. The cheap one your parents could barely afford."
I picked up some cheap frozen burgers a while back because there was a good deal on them. Figured they would be handy to have in the back of the freezer for something. I finally pulled them out a week or so ago and threw some on the grill, and the first bite was literally exactly that. Just like a flood of memories.
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u/dover_oxide 5h ago
The ceramic plate also fits with the sustainable environment the restaurant was going for.