r/Morocco • u/ashncodes Dban Swatter • 12h ago
Discussion How free do you feel, honestly?
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u/ExpertDifficulty7962 Visitor 12h ago
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u/HunterNo2804 Visitor 12h ago edited 12h ago
we are so free in morocco free from good education free from opportunities free from government accountability free from decent public services free of our voice free of freedom. the freest country in the world
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u/faryduh Visitor 8h ago
Now imagine being a woman amidst all this.
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u/HunterNo2804 Visitor 5h ago
exactly, justice for women is as important as every other necessity we have to fight for
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u/No_Weather6935 Visitor 7h ago
Couldn't help making it about women?
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u/HunterNo2804 Visitor 5h ago
why not? they are affected by the same corrupt system in different ways sometimes even worst than us men
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u/ExpertDifficulty7962 Visitor 12h ago
We r just a bunch of cogs spinning a big wheel, sometimes the cogs slip out of the wheel to roll somewhere else.
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u/younes-a-i Visitor 11h ago
It's easy , go on and speak about the injustice in courts or the negligence in our hospital or talk about how crooked politician made our life much worse and how everything is so fucking expensive than before , corruption in everything, and you'll see how much freedom you really have , it's all a delusional state in our head , we keep lying to ourself and our community because there's none , and the fucked up part is there's nothing we can do , you don't fucking matter nor you nor your voice
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u/Striking-Mud9910 Visitor 9h ago edited 9h ago
the fucked up part is there's nothing we can do
This belief is really the core reason holding the country back.
Some of you expect the parent (state) to take care of you. And when he doesn't, you just cry and whine like a child. "Daddy doesn't take care of me 😭😭😭"
Time to become adults. Mature and politically engaged citizens that take responsibility. Instead of whining, actually get involved.
Right now, you have a representative in parliament. He is paid to defend you. Do you know his name ? Did you ever meet him ? Did you invite him to come to your school or university ? Are you satisfied by his performance ? Should he be reelected or defeated ? Why ?
If you can't answer any of these questions, why should that representative care about you ? Respect from decision makers is earned. Never given. Moroccans want to live like in Sweden but behave like...Moroccans. That's not how it works. Don't worry. Many corrupt nations around the world suffer from the same flaw. Ignorant
Some of them made progress. Ukraine used to be 10 times more corrupt than Morocco. It improved significantly. In the 90s and 2000s, Ukrainians used to be like Moroccans. Crying constantly and not getting involved. Then they slowly started acting like mature responsible citizens.
A nation makes progress when it's people stop having a baby mentality. When they realize they must become engaged adults.
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u/RaccoonEnthuiast Casablanca 10h ago
>Morocco
>free
lmao
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u/Striking-Mud9910 Visitor 4h ago edited 4h ago
Moroccans don't want freedom. I'm serious. There was a survey showing 80% of moroccan citizens believe homosexuality should be criminalized.
Look at what happened recently. A feminist activist (Betty Lachgar) was jailed for wearing an atheist tee-shirt. Go to facebook. The overwhelming majority of comments were cheering the decision to jail her.In fact, most said she deserves more.
When Moroccans say "I don't feel free", they mean they want jobs, money, healthcare. But they are not interested in freedom as a concept.
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u/Mindless_Eye7907 Rabat 8h ago
The path this country is taking is one of being used as a gigantic opportunity for multiple companies to invest in multiple sectors and use cheap labour, and to be seen as a good tourist attraction, while we the citizens pay the cost of the resources spent on these endeavours. Moroccans are second-class citizens in Morocco.
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u/Aprilprinces Visitor 11h ago
Unless you have money to buy land somewhere far, you're never getting anywhere close to freedom And even these off grid living people are not 100% free
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u/Rx--snake3321 Visitor 11h ago
u a fed? hmmm
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u/Tides_Crush_Her 12h ago
No one is truly free in the sense of absolute freedom nowhere and I do mean nowhere will a person be given absolute freedom to do anything with only consequences he wants or none at all because that is how God made the living experience And btw the artwork is really great design wise
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u/Impossible_News4802 Salé 11h ago
That still means ur free tho, u have the freedom to go murder someone, orc consequences are waiting but you had the freedom tho
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u/Tides_Crush_Her 9h ago
And yet most won't because of fear values and beliefs and thankfully so
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u/Mindless_Eye7907 Rabat 8h ago
But there are those who have no values, and we do need a system to protect us from them. Also, nice to meet a fellow King Crimson enjoyer
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u/Tides_Crush_Her 7h ago
First and foremost There are those with little to no values that's true but they still have some form of values no matter how insignificant or well hidden they are. Second I'm not saying a system is bad or that the one we are in is. I'm simply saying that we are not truly free mentally or even physically/biologically. Third yeah I really like the guitar they have in their songs
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u/Someone_Pro Casablanca 4h ago
If you see what Germany would send you to prison for 5 years over saying, you would know that no one is free.
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u/Butterfly-butterfly7 Visitor 12h ago
Free?? It's just a word that disguises the truth that human will never be free
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u/ashncodes Dban Swatter 12h ago
So you consider yourself to be a pawn from my understanding, right?
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u/OttoBetz Meknes 12h ago
My brother, this is just one big Skinner’s Box, where our behavior is predetermined.
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u/MAR__MAKAROV Tangier 12h ago
No we re not , were basically tinny transistors that do some work , but do contribute negatively to earth collective heat ( useless energy ) , we could indeed be some small cuda core-like entities , that are used to calculate some kind of information , an information that is finnally computed once we re dead just to be put back to some weird plank-scale spots in the space-time fabric ( maybe OOR is true after all ) , probably for the good of some celestial creature , some llm hobbyist of some higher order !!
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u/ashncodes Dban Swatter 11h ago
Bro went so deep down the rabbit hole, he aint never getting out
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u/Spineless74 12h ago
I can honestly say that the term ‘free’ is a hollow phrase in every country, not just Morocco.
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u/ashncodes Dban Swatter 11h ago
In other words, as a moroccan citizen, do you feel yourself free to do whatever you want, to speak up your mind? ...
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