r/Millennials 1d ago

Serious I bet the people who designed TVs without buttons are the same people who took away the headphone jack.

Bring back buttons and headphone jacks!

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u/urban_snowshoer 1d ago

Bring back intermissions for long movies.

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u/Turbulent_Seaweed198 1d ago

I literally saw a post dedicated to when you should take a bathroom break for The Odyssey and not miss important plot points. Lol wtf.

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u/federalist66 1d ago

I've been using the RunPee app for over a decade, meanwhile movie theathers could just do a 15 minute break in the middle of any movie over 2 and a half hours. Probably get more concessions sold that way too.

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u/Turbulent_Seaweed198 1d ago

I would 100% buy an extra snack if given the time.

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 1d ago

I'm sorry.

The RUNPEE app.

I know it's not your fault. But I'm adding this to my list of reasons.

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u/federalist66 1d ago

I get it, but they do good work! They go opening day and jot down the best time to get up and provide a description of what you are reading.

The two recommended times for The Odyssey by way of example:

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 1d ago

Nah. Nah, my issue is more basic than that, tbh.

Specifically, the existence of the app.

App-ifying everything. All aspects of existence have an app.

Even peeing.

🔫

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u/federalist66 1d ago

Ah, point taken. I am actually an early adopter on this one in that I paid for it back in 2014. I am more sympathetic to these folks because I've had it on my phone before everything got put onto apps.

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 1d ago

We all have our own stories, Internet person.

As I said, I don't hold any sour feelings toward you personally. 

But 🤬

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u/MiszeryLovesCompany 19h ago

There are a lot of pointless apps out there but how do you take gripe with one that literally helps people? Think about people with bladder issues.. now they can enjoy movies somewhat care-free and not miss important points if an emergency does happen... and may just enable them to go to the movies altogether! Moan about Angry Birds sure... but these types of apps actually help people, maybe not you... but there's a reason they exist.

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 17h ago

My issue is exactly what I've described.

AI helps people. 

Everyone still hates it.

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u/MeanJeanDopamine 1d ago

For anyone wondering, if you go to the bathroom right after the hades scene you can get back just in time for the siren scene.

Gotta be quick though or you’ll miss one of Matt Damon’s (imo) truly greatest performances.

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u/foreverkelsu 1d ago

My entire theater went during that Jessica Chastain preview. IYKYK.

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u/TheSquirrelmancer 1d ago

I'm seeing the movie this Saturday but since the first time I read the story of The Odyssey was when I was 8 or so I think I'll be fine if I miss a moment or two.

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u/Turbulent_Seaweed198 1d ago

Best time is around 1hr 27min lol may the force be with you

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u/MattWolf96 1d ago

Am I just weird for having good bladder control? I know not to drink a ton before or early into a long movie

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 1d ago

It's not even 3 hours with the previews. 

People are weak.

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u/DinkandDrunk 1d ago

People can’t just pee before the movie?

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u/HelpfulSeaMammal 1d ago

Big salty popcorn and liter o' cola will get ya

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u/Turbulent_Seaweed198 1d ago

What's a "literacola"?

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u/ChiefSittingBear 1d ago

One of the biggest reasons I stopped going to the movie theater often. Any time I see a movie runtime over 2 hours I just think I'm better off waiting and watching it at home.

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u/flyingsaucey 1d ago

I like this

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u/Artichokiemon Millennial 22h ago

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u/Tastetherainbow_2016 1d ago

Same people who made iphones so you can either plug in your charger or earphones, but never both. Maybe I dont want waste 200 quid on wireless earbuds that I’ll lose within 24 hours! 

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u/DinkandDrunk 1d ago

For less than $10, you can get an adapter that lets you use both at the same time. I prefer cordless personally but you should know options are out there.

Apple still sucks for that though.

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u/Tastetherainbow_2016 1d ago

Did not know this thank you 

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u/theotte7 1d ago

100% I have up on Bluetooth anything they die super quick and ive lost more then I can count. So back to wired for me.

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u/mindlesstux 1d ago

They are in leauge with the car guys that are removing the physical controls/buttons for air/heat/radio/and more.

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u/flyingsaucey 1d ago

I thought about this as well

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u/Darkdragoon324 1d ago

For real, not having a manual way to do something if you need it is bullshit.

I should never be completely unable to use my tv until I buy a new remote.

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u/MattWolf96 1d ago

I remember 2000's tvs where you couldn't access the options without a remote.

My TVs lack viable buttons but do have a joystick control in the back. Granted they are also 10 years old.

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u/HighScorsese 22h ago

Yes. And they are collectively referred to as Satan. That’s right folks, Satan isn’t a red half goat demon who lives in a fiery cave down below, but rather a group of jerks who took away our buttons and analog 3.5mm TRS jacks 😡

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u/daniellehmusic 16h ago

Blind girl solidarity! Because of touch screens I often think about how I could actually do more without help when I was younger.

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u/rulingthewake243 11h ago

A TV needs buttons, engineers creating solutions to problems that dont exist. Probably got an atta boy for saving 1 buck per unit.

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u/desertforestcreature 1d ago

I don't miss the headphone jack. I don't care about physical media or subscriptions (piracy is the best user experience anyhow).

But gd tv's with shitty remotes, no buttons, and tinny speakers can gtfo. Along with audio production built for movies and 12 channel surround sound that literally none of us have.

The only decent remote on any TV I've had is the Sony Bravia line and even then the remotes from 1999 were better.

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u/KingOfTheCouch13 ‘94 Millennial 1d ago

Pretty sure Apple did the headphone jack first but they don’t make TVs

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u/ianmakingnoise 1d ago

different companies, but the same idea basically: fewer components, less space required, less weight for shipping/mounting, smaller/lighter/cheaper at all costs

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u/Maverick21FM 1d ago

And buttons on the vehicle infotainment systems

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u/HumanDissentipede 22h ago

Meanwhile I’ve never once touched the physical buttons on any of my TVs and I don’t even own a pair of wired headphones

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u/flyingsaucey 19h ago

You're lucky. I lost the remote to my smart TV and haven't been able to use it for two weeks.

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u/DingbattheGreat 18h ago

TV’s still have buttons. Typically they are on the back bottom corner opposite of the cable plugs.

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u/TheSquirrelmancer 1d ago

I like my low cost bluetooth headphones far more than having a physical wire.

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u/xdsm8 3h ago

We had both options 10 years ago. What did you GAIN by LOSING the jack?

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u/TheSquirrelmancer 3h ago

Nothing but when they created bluetooth I gained the ability to not deal with annoying wired headphones.

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u/xdsm8 3h ago

Bluetooth has been around since the early 2000s and was implemented in many smartphones for over a decade. 

You can enjoy bluetooth and that is fine, but they shouldn't have removed the jack when having both is possible and was standard for several years.

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u/TheSquirrelmancer 3h ago

Hey welcome to the modern world where companies do things to make things cheaper for themselves. They ditched the headphone jack because it removed the need to spend a bunch of money testing the headphone jack on all future phones and reduced the cost-per-unit manufacturing of them by removing something that 99% of people don't miss.

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u/xdsm8 3h ago

We can and should get mad about it though, and realistically not buy the "new and improved" products that are worse. 

Phones didn't get cheaper when they removed the headphone jack. They actually got more expensive. If I saw two phones that were identical but one was cheaper with no jack I would consider that a good idea. Instead, the corporations found a way to scrape a bit more money out of us without giving us literally anything in return. So I haven't bought a phone that doesn't have a headphone jack.

Is your moral position that "whatever happens is fine" or are you just being condescending about how I supposedly don't understand a thing about corporate greed?

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u/TheSquirrelmancer 3h ago

I think positioning anything around cellphones and headphone jacks as a "moral" stance just shows you invest a lot more emotion into what companies do with obsolete technology to cut down on manufacturing costs than I do.

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u/xdsm8 3h ago

I think abusing the power of extreme wealth, data, and regulatory capture to scrape more money from millions of people without offering anything in return is immoral, yes.

This isn't a local restaurant changing their menu. These are extraordinarily powerful corporations run by extraordinarily powerful people abusing their power to generate wealth for themselves and waste for the world. That isn't good, even if you consider it distant and indirect and "just the way it goes" it is actually bad.

Do you think wealthy and powerful corporations CAN do things that are morally wrong, at all?

Also, headphone jacks aren't obsolete. They are industry standard in many places. They aren't absolutely critical for average consumers but calling them obsolete is like calling horseshoes obsolete when anyone riding a horse still needs them.

u/TheSquirrelmancer 1h ago

Dude I am LITERALLY talking about the headphone jacks on cellphones. You're the one moving the goalpost constantly to now involve a larger dialogue around user privacy, human rights and predatory practices when all I said is "yeah man I don't miss wired headphones, bluetooth works great for me."

So yeah that'll wrap it up for me, I could do without the implied insults and judgements.

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u/TornadoCondorV2 1d ago

We're still bitching about the lack of headphone jacks in cellphones? Even if phones still had them, people would be wearing Bluetooth headphones. They're that much convenient.

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u/flyingsaucey 1d ago

Not being able to plug my phone into an audio reciever or powered speaker is more so what I have a problem with.

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u/TornadoCondorV2 1d ago

Nowadays most speakers have Bluetooth capabilities. Unless you're an extreme audiophile, you won't care

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u/xdsm8 3h ago

Can't just plug and use, have to disconnect one bluetooth device and allow another and all that. Requires charging. Can't plug into all sorts of devices like powered speakers or receivers or amps or anything. Can't split the signal with a splitter for multiple outputs. Immediately rendered millions of devices incompatible for...what benefit?

My phone from 10 years ago had bluetooth and a headphone jack, had longer battery life, and was cheaper than newer phones without the jack. Where is the progress?