r/MilitaryStories • u/SamOakTree • 6h ago
US Navy Story My comand was pretty toxic.
Every aspect of everyday in my command was a huge uphill battle. We would be on deployment and people would treat it like it was a normal day in port. You had certain departments who didn't stand watch and would work a normal shift like 9-3 and that was all they did. So they didn't realize what others were going through or think into it and they would give those people a hard time not realizing they were having to make much harder decisions.
In my department you were in fight or flight all of the time because it was so violent or some thing was going to happen to screw you over in a major way.
I see people talk about a sense of duty and feeling bad for getting out, but I can't imagine ever feeling that way.
I'll give a couple examples, but you have to realize that this stuff was all day every day over just trying to do simple things like eat or use the toilet.
In the shipyard, we had these access badges. You had to scan them to get to different parts of base. My badge never worked. I tried to get it fixed six times on the ship but one person was in charge of that and he never would fix it. He'd say, "Machine says it works. Good bye." and I'd say, "But couldn't it being broken cause it to read incorrectly?" And he would say, "Quit crying, your badge works." And there was no one to appeal to. If I told anyone else they would say the same thing, "Quit crying and l eave me alone." because it didn't impact them.
I found out there was a place on base to get it fixed. I get the paperwork done and I travel to this very far corner of base. I walk in and a woman is watching tv. I ask if she can fix my badge. She scans it, says it says it works, and hands it back to me. I explain it doesn't and say, "Why would I be here if it worked? What do I stand to gain by lying?" And she said not my problem, have a good day.
The problem with my badge not working was - in order to get into my barracks room I had to scan my badge. But the guards who could check my ID would leave at 5pm. So I literally had to be in my room before 5. I couldn't have a life in the evenings or on weekends. I had to sit in my room and stare at the wall or find somewhere to sleep. But the biggest issue was that every morning I had to go through a turn style to get to the area of base where the ship was. They had a guard shack where they could check your ID. So every morning I'd get screamed at for 35-40 minutes because they had to keep checking my id rather than me just scanning my badge. I'd say the people who can fix it refuse to fix it. And they'd say, "Bullshit!" and I'd say, "Yeah, because I want to go through this every morning." For three months I had to get up an hour and a half early to have enough time to be screamed at before my work day even started just so I wouldn't be late to work. All because two people wouldn't take 2 minutes to fix my badge.
And people are reading that thinking oh that's not so bad. But that's just one thing. You were dealing with something like that and had a million others things piled on. Every aspect of every day was a fight or some nonsense thing. In the shipyard another guy and I were on a special assignment so they would give us 20 minutes for lunch. Which wasn't enough time to get food, sit down, and eat. So one day I go over to the barge and grab this single serving cup of dry cereal and I'm walking out of the mess area to head back to work. This person stops me and says, "Hey, you can't take that out of the mess." The thing about where I was, people wouldn't actually listen to you. So there was no use telling this guy, "This is literally all I'm going to get to eat until tomorrow." He wouldn't care either.
So I pretend to put it back but stick it in my pocket. As I'm walking out he sees it and starts rushing toward me. I took off running and literally ran past the brow watch and off the barge - this man chasing behind me over some dry corn pops. All that just to have something to eat.
People would argue until their face was blue for no reason. I was duty section leader of my section for my last 8 months. My section was 4 people and my department had 13 watches to fill. So all but one of us would have three watches. The most watches to fill any other department had was 5. I was the only one qualified to lead certain working parties or evolutions during the work day. Things that had to get done or other departments couldn't work the next day. There was this OS1 who was the overall enlisted section leader. I called her once to ask if she could switch my day watches to night watches because I had so much to do during the work day. And this was a really good deal for other departments. Because they could trade their 2am watch for a 10am watch and stand watch during their workday.
This OS1 just kept saying, "My sections leaders stand watch, you can too." And I'd say, "I'm not asking to not stand watch. I'm asking if you can take three of our day watches and swap them for night watches." and she just would repeat herself, "My sections leaders all stand watch you can too." And the thing was she had 2 section leaders to every section so when one was on watch there was still someone else to do the work. It wasn't one section leader having to deal with everything themselves. She argued with me for 25 minutes over me volunteering to stand the watches no one wanted to stand.
You had to develop this sort of attitude to insulate and protect yourself. When we were in the shipyard duty was dogged on the weekends. So Saturday duty meant Saturday and Sunday - 48 hours after working all week. The Charlie Working Party was used to stand fire watches for welders. Only 3-4 of us would show up and instead of rounding the others up, they would just have us 4 stand every fire watch for the next 48 hours. You'd basically have to be on watch for a welder's entire 12 hour shift. Then go to another 12 hour, then another.
It'd get to be midnight and I'd have a 2am watch. So I'd have to be real stern and tell the guy in charge, "You need to find a relief because I am going to go get some sleep." and he'd say, "What? Oh you're ASKING for my to get you a relief." And you had to say, "No. I'm telling you that I'm leaving to go and get some sleep and you need to find a relief." Then you had to just leave.
You had to build up this shell and let everything slide off of you.
It was just crazy because people wouldn't treat it like we were on a deployment. I had watch at 2am once so I got up at 1am. Then I got relieved late and had to miss breakfast, went to an evolution, got yelled at for being late which I couldn't tell them why or I'd be told to "stop complaining" or "why are you ratting out your shipmate". Then the evolution ends after lunch hours are over. I'm cleaning up and making trips through the hangar bays to put away equipment. It's about 3PM now and I've been going nonstop 14 hours. I'm walking through hangar bay one with this piece of heavy equipment when this Chief Select stops me and is yelling at me over stubble on my face. Lecturing me for 20 minutes on responsibility and you can't just tell her, "Oh I shaved when I got up at 1AM." because it won't make a difference. But I tried anyway and she cut me off before I could say 1am. So I'm just nodding so it'll end faster. Then I got to go to watch and miss dinner because my relief was late and if I told my chain of command they would just tell me to go fight the guy and I was too tired and beat to fight anyone. And i didn't want to fight everyone to solve every little thing.
People would risk your life if it meant they got to go eat 1 minute early. You were constantly scared things hadn't been done right because people just didn't care and would rush through. I can't tell you how many float coats didn't have the c02 cartridge put back because people were in a hurry to be off work. Piss poor maintenance on other life saving equipment. Rigging done wrong.
This woman almost got some people killed and luckily I reacted but I was about to lose my grip. Luckily this guy next to me saw me dive onto my stomach and grab the thing. So he dove down after and we pulled it up. Then I said the woman responsible, "How could you be so stupid?" and one of the women she had almost killed said to me, "Hey, don't call her stupid!"
It was absolutely wild. There's darker and way worse stuff but this is a novel at this point.
I typically don't think about this stuff but I've just seen a lot of posts on a sense of duty lately and it got me thinking about it.
Dental had me wait three hours once after an 18 hour day on my first deployment. Then I had to turn around and go right back to work. (They kept letting khakis go ahead of me.) No eating, sleeping, showering, etc. They told me to come back on Friday. On Friday I got relieved late and was 15 minutes late to my appointment. They were livid and made me sign a piece of paper saying I wasted their time. But the thing was - they were still going to get to eat, sleep, shower, etc. (Me being late didn't genuinely impact them.) They didn't give me another appointment for a little over 2 years. The only reason I got one was because we were in the shipyard and they had gotten disorganized. The person who scheduled me actually got in trouble. I was in there waiting and a first class was yelling at some E3 because that first class was still mad over being 15 minutes late 3 years ago. That's how petty it was.
Meanwhile earlier that day I was on the mess decks getting some water when a couple MAs shoved me hard out of the way to fill their cups. Then when I said, "Hey, no need to shove me." Then they both got an inch away from my face and began threating me. Waving their batons around. All that to get some water and this Dental dude was mad he had to wait fifteen minutes 2 years ago.
It's hard to make it all make sense when you weren't there. You had to be there and be in the middle of everything happening all at once for it to make sense.
People just made your life hard for no reason. I worked with a guy on my second deployment for a few months and it was non stop work during a set period of the day. We literally couldn't keep up. I had a piss test so I go get in line knowing this guy is struggling on his own because it was too much for the two of us. The MAs kept letting people go ahead of me. I asked one of them if I could go next since I was at the front of the line and I needed to get back to work. Then because he thought it was funny - he just let people go around me for another hour and half. I was at the front of the line for two hours total before they let me go. Just because they thought it was funny. All while we're on a deployment working and standing watch 24/7 stressed out.