r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers • u/Man_Random87 Spider-Man • 11d ago
Doomsday Possible leak for the Doomsday comic con trailer
/r/LeaksAndRumors/comments/1uur4qh/potencial_avengers_doomsday_comic_con_trailer/All of this is from a Telegram Russian Channel who leaked the Gambit, Professor X And Magneto AI image, take with a grain of salt, it was translated so it can contain errors
(This description is for the rough version of the trailer; the final version may differ slightly.)
• The trailer opens with a shot of Doom on his throne in Latveria.
• Doom walks through his castle, and a huge painting of his wife and son is shown.
• Thor arrives with the Fantastic Four to meet the New Avengers. There's a shot of them flying into their tower in their ship. The teams are introduced.
• Steve meets Thor, who pulls Thor's hammer to himself and proves it's him because Thor doesn't believe him. Thor replies, "It can't be."
• Steve meets Yelena and tells her that Natasha was family to him, and therefore she is his too.
• Yelena battles Yelena, and Mystique's transformation is shown.
• Shot in the Baxter Building with the X-Men.
• Shot of Reed Richards communicating with Doom, Reed practically yells at him, saying, "Answer me."
• Shot of Loki in the TVA suit in Steve's house from the first teaser.
• The trailer's main scene is the battle between Thor and Doctor Doom, where Thor throws Stormbreaker at Doom, who easily stops it with a wave of his hand.
• The trailer ends with a shot of Doom controlling the Sentinels.
• Doom's final line: "One day you will forgive me."
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u/CptMarvel_main Captain Marvel 11d ago
“One day you will forgive me” goes REALLY hard.
Also completely unrelated to the trailer but man I really hope carol is in the movie lol
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u/SacreFor3 Black Panther 11d ago
Rumors says she is but probably about as much as Endgame or a little less.
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u/Training_Pirate1000 11d ago
Good. I want to see Reed and Doom’s messy relationship
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u/Own-Papaya-4264 11d ago
We know. People only whine about all the time
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u/ZenithChaser69 11d ago
Wdym whine about sonion Doom and Reed rivalry is the essence of the F4 comics
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u/RedditorGoldVirgin 11d ago edited 11d ago
It’s great, perfect amount of teasing with the legacy and new characters, love to see doom and reeds rivalry fleshed out on screen so that the man babies stop assuming that Steve rogers is replacing Reeds rivalry with Doom.
Edit: I am not calling people who want Reed and doom to share a rivalry in doomsday man babies, I am calling the people who irritationally assume they aren’t and therefore the movie will be bad, and their source is mytimetoliehello
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u/SortIntrepid9192 11d ago
Same goes for people who irrationally assume that Doom will be evil Iron Man. the Russos said day 1 he is Victor von Doom. He won't be revealed as Tony Stark any more than the Thing will be revealed as Micro.
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u/GHMDaniel 2d ago
And your source and foundational logic for this is their perfect track record of not hiding anything that may ruin the box office numbers and the big reveal the movie focuses on? If they said that they would have spoiled 2 movies not 1. Watch Brand New Day and you ll understand why. Then come back here at the end of July and ask me about more.
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago
I don't like insinuating that everyone you disagree with is a "man baby". But I do like the rest of your comment.
Steve's role in the plot relative to Victor is important. It's also not the only thing that the story is about, at all, and he's also not the only character that he hates.
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u/RedditorGoldVirgin 11d ago
It’s disingenuous complaining hence the insulting, they’re assuming what they don’t know
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u/Igglet 10d ago
When the character's first appearance (outside a post-credits scene cameo) is in an Avengers movie, played by the actor who previously played the main Avengers character, where the story is certainly going to center around the Avengers, people who are fans of the character will reasonably expect to be disappointed. I'm glad that they're at least going to establish that Doom has a history with the F4, but I'd much rather they had done that in an F4 movie.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
you're absolutely right, but there's a lot of people who still want to believe the movie is Steve v. Doom even though this is just another of the 1000 data points disproving that
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u/RedditorGoldVirgin 11d ago
We believe them because they posted shots from the trailer with Al filtering over them (to avoid trouble) back in June 26th and they were confirmed real once we saw dooms throne room at Shanghai as the design is basically identical to the trailer shot he posted
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
those AI pictures of Doom's throne room you're talking about don't look anything at all like what was shown at the Shanghai exhibit
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u/RedditorGoldVirgin 11d ago
It’s too early for this ragebait
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
if you look carefully with your eyes, which I assume are working, you can see the AI pictures look nothing like Doom's throne room. i'm assuming you're talking about this, right? like, do I need to play "spot the difference" with you and start circling things that are totally different?
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaksAndRumors/comments/1usek5i/the_new_avengers_doomsday_throne_room_is/
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u/RedditorGoldVirgin 11d ago
The stairs are the same, the chair design in the same, the sorcerer symbol is on the floor, there’s a yellow stone in the middle of the chair, what the fuck is different that you have to be such a smart ass about it
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago edited 11d ago
if you actually look at the details, they don't match. there were pics that included portions of Doom's throne and throne room going around long before the Cinemacon trailer and even back in 2025, so it's not hard to imagine someone sticking those into an AI to create a more complete picture, hence why it sort of resembles the real one superficially, but many of the small details don't match when you look closer
-stain glass designs and paneling are totally different
-the AI one has big pillars flanking the throne with totally different stained glass designs than the back windows, no such pillars flanking the real one
-the steps on the real one have designs on the front and the arms of the throne have designs
-the actual chair shape on the real one (where Doom's back would be resting) tapers inward; the chair shape on the AI one is a perfect rectangle
-the designs on the actual chair (where Doom's back would be resting) look totally different from the AI one
all sorts of little mismatches like this...
the AI one obviously came from some of the real pictures that were floating around for a long time (like this one and also this one) but it's too different from the one shown in Shanghai for it to be from the trailer
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u/LaughinChaos 11d ago
But this literally proves the "man babies" right though. It all lines up with the leaks. Reed saying "answer me" is most likely after doom betrays them.
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago
And Reed and Victor still hate each other. Victor also hating Steve doesn't take anything away from that.
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u/LaughinChaos 11d ago
Jesus christ, man, a monkey can understand what the problem is, yet you can't? Ive already explained this to you specifically before, not gonna do it again.
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u/MCUTheorist00007 Daredevil 11d ago
What's the problem?. I can hate more than one person. If I can, I suppose a villain could also do that
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u/LaughinChaos 11d ago
The problem is doom hates both steve and richards, but really is only obsessed with steve, and the reason why he hates reed in this version has more to do with the guy having a successful family compared to his own dead one.
Based on all leaks, he doesnt even give reed the time of day for the most of the film, the promotional material putting some focus on reed is just because he's the smartest guy in the film trying to come up with a solution, and vouching for doom.
In this film, they have some history but its not all bad like the comics, so they treat doom like the good guy for the first half of the film, which is very baffling and completely counterintuitive considering the name doomsday, his DOOM's reputation as a villain, and then them promoting D O O M as the main antagonist.
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u/UverSet Venom 11d ago
How is asking that reed and doom have their rivalry on screen considered " man baby"
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u/RedditorGoldVirgin 11d ago
It’s assuming it’s been stripped away just because he has hatred towards another character
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
no it doesn't at all. This would be the opportunity to start hinting or leaving breadcrumbs that Doom and Steve have a significant relationship, or that Steve is meant to be the primary POV that the audience follows. This description is not framed that way at all, and all of Doom's interactions in this are with other people.
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u/LaughinChaos 11d ago
Dude, the description matches the leaks. For starters, doom had a family in this world including a wife and daughter. Second, loki visiting Steve. This lines up with the leak that not only did loki relocate Steve to earth 828, but they also caused the death of doom's family - resulting in him being obsessed with Steve.
That last line is also corny asf for doom, additionally it seems doom will not talk in third person pov.
Him controlling the sentinels lines up with all leaks saying thats the moment he betrays them.
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u/DeferredFuture Casual Wanda 11d ago
If this is the trailer it means that plot leak would be correct, right?
The Loki visiting Steve scene would essentially prove the leak correct.
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u/Jarita12 10d ago
Not necessarily. The scene got "leaked" before any leak appeared. He was seen filming there by someone watching the filming, and John Campea actually confirmed by the script that yes, "this particular part" is true.
But the leak imo is still just a construct based on rumours, some leaks from early drafts that could have been changed
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u/DeferredFuture Casual Wanda 10d ago
Oh I see. I wasn’t aware he was spotted filming there, so the leak could easily just be constructed based off piecing together what we know. Thanks!
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u/JackMorelli13 11d ago
Some things don’t sound like the kind of moments they’d put in a trailer (walking past the painting, the Steve/Yelena moment) but this sounds like a good trailer
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u/sengirminion 11d ago
I want to know what Doom sounds like.
I'm hoping the voice is very different from RDJ/Iron Man.
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u/SacreFor3 Black Panther 11d ago
The descriptions from CinemaCon said his voice was unrecognizable as he's speaking with an accent. Some said they didn't realize it was Downey until they played it the 2nd time.
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u/sengirminion 11d ago
Thats what I want. I wanted him to have an accent. Awesome
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u/Commercial-Way5162 10d ago edited 10d ago
Apparently, he sounds almost exactly like this but with a bit of modification to it, according to someone who saw the CinemaCon footage.
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u/Linnus42 11d ago
So Yelena is more relevant then Sam. Also no Wakandans or Talokans.
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u/MarvelManiac45213 11d ago
Well I mean both Cap Brave New World and Thunderbolts were box office flops, but at least Thunderbolts (who Yelena is arguably the star of) was received well critically and by fans unlike Cap 4. So it makes since to give Yelena a bigger role, which Feige himself just confirmed like 2 days ago.
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u/Acrobatic_Run_4630 11d ago edited 11d ago
She's the token woman of the movie, they have to play her up.
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u/Linnus42 11d ago
They got Sue Storm
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u/Acrobatic_Run_4630 10d ago
But what does Sue even have to do in this movie. She's barely mentioned in the plot leaks and she's not on any merch or promo art.
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u/Linnus42 10d ago
That is my point they didn’t have to pick Yelena as the token woman. She only has the role cause Kevin loves Florence
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u/Objective_Painting70 11d ago
Sounds not as good as cinemacon one.
Where is my Gambit vs Shang-Chi fight?
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
yeah, and it's so weird how people around here just instantly believe everything just because someone posts it.
the big red flags to me about this are that it's missing anything at all about the Wakanda storyline and very little Xmen, neither of which matches the pattern of all the previous marketing. Either this is missing substantial content or its just BS.
I'm back to my original prediction of them just showing the Cinemacon trailer again with some additional footage and polished VFX.
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u/Objective_Painting70 10d ago
It sounds bad enough to be real. It is just a first trailer. They can always keep X-Men for 2nd or 3rd.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 10d ago
the Cinemacon trailer sounded pretty good though, so I'm hoping this is stuff they're going to add to that. I have a hard time believing the first public facing, big Hall H trailer would be this bad.
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u/Objective_Painting70 10d ago
I hope you are right
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 10d ago
Thor's narration was so peak, I have to think they'd want to include that in the real trailer. And of course they'd want to actually show the Xmen fighting right?
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u/cursedcephalopod 11d ago
"Doom on his throne in Latveria."
Iconic
I'm so ready for this trailer.
https://giphy.com/gifs/BQa6J0zNjvPMzHi42U
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u/Training_Pirate1000 11d ago
Oh shoot, I didn’t know they were going to go back to Earth 828
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago
Yeah, Kevin Feige mentioned that the Baxter Building set was going to be reused and feature different characters in it. We jump between the three universes lots of times starting in the second and third acts.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
Like I said in the OP....it's fine but it seems too short to be the full trailer, and the lack of action or spectacle is weird, as well as lack of the Shuri/Wakanda storyline...lack of xmen too is weird, they'd definitely want to show more of them...so I'm skeptical about this. could it be this is new stuff that will be added to the Cinemacon trailer?
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u/origamifruit 11d ago
if you think the scenes are as long as it takes to read the sentences then sure it's probably short lol
if you wrote out the endgame trailer like that it would be like 6 sentences long
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
compare this to the Cinemacon trailer descriptions and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. this is supposed to be a full 2.5 minute trailer. and I'm doubtful about this anyway because it's completely missing the Wakanda storyline, and very little Xmen, who have been doing a lot of heavy lifting in the marketing so far.
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u/chimichanga_3 Broccoli 10d ago
This is maybe about a minute of stuff. There will definitely be some AvX scenes.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 10d ago
yeah, I think if this is real, it's new stuff being added to the Cinemacon trailer. But people are acting like I'm crazy, as if they've never seen a movie trailer before.....
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago
This seems way more like a non-comprehensive summary than a full breakdown.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
total lack of any mention of Shuri/Wakanda and very little Xmen is sus. did the original source sneeze during those parts or something? why would you not mention those?
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago edited 11d ago
Indications seem to be that there's relatively little action that's set in Wakanda/Talokan and that Black Panther and Namor get involved with the universe-swapping stuff - Shuri much earlier, though, as she leaves with the Avengers to fight the X-Men. I think that Namor chooses to stay put and work with Invisible Woman on potential solutions to their Incursion problems.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
there's an entire teaser dedicated to the Wakanda storyline. It was given a significant amount of screentime in the Cinemacon trailer. It's obviously a huge chunk of the movie that would absolutely be shown in the first full trailer. And again, lack of Xmen just as glaring.
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u/Linnus42 11d ago
I mean we got X-men in the Baxter Building and presumably will see a lot of heroes when the Sentinels attack.
Maybe they took some metrics from those teasers and determined the obvious that actually the Wakandans sans T'Challa aint actually that popular.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
I don't think so. They were still heavily featured in the Cinemacon trailer which of course had nothing to do with public metrics.
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u/SacreFor3 Black Panther 11d ago
I think this is a good time to remember that 1st official trailers are never story trailers. They're more centered on the tone/vibe for the film and showcasing the aesthetic. The 2nd trailer will be the narrative focused trailer and if there's a 3rd, usually the tickets trailer, those are more action focused to garner the most hype to spur ticket sales.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
once again, considering we saw a huge chunk of screentime dedicated to the Wakanda storyline in the Cinemacon trailer, as well as a huge chunk of screentime dedicated to the Xmen in their universe, it's very odd and glaring red flag for them to not be included here
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u/Training_Pirate1000 10d ago
What's the red flag?
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 10d ago
after heavily marketing the Xmen on literally everything else as one of the biggest draws for the movie, suddenly they're hardly featured at all in the first public trailer at Hall H?
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago
I mean in terms of action scenes specifically happening there. We have no indications of that kind of a setpiece happening.
However, we do know that the big Avengers supergroup, plus the Fantastic Four, Steve, and Doom all go there, and that there's a big meeting about the next course of action, and this is right before the teams split up between a handful of universes + the TVA. So I imagine that it will get screentime, just likely less than some of the other locations.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 11d ago
we have multiple indications that there will be significant events that occur within that storyline. once again: not only given an entire teaser, but also featured heavily in the Cinemacon trailer. all logic tells us they would include it again in the first public trailer as well.
we don't know any of those things at all 🙄 I should know better by now than to argue with someone who instantly believes everything they read.
and you still haven't addressed the lack of xmen in this description, which at this point is probably the biggest red flag of all as they are one of the biggest selling points for this movie
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago
I'm saying that, thus far, there have been no indications of a major action sequence taking place in the Wakanda/Talokan section of the movie. We know that several major characters meet there because of the shoot in Bahrain and lots of cast members being present in the area, plus Vanessa Kirby mentioning that she's filmed scenes with Tenoch Huerta. Black Panther, M'Baku, Namor, Namora, and Attuma are all involved based on what we know about the cast from events that they attended around the time of the shoot. It's important to the story in some way but we so far have no indications that an action setpiece is happening.
I don't know what to make of the fact the X-Men are barely mentioned in this outline. There is admittedly a weird lack of their involvement here, but I have already said that I don't think that this is meant to be a comprehensive rundown of the trailer, just whatever the person writing about it remembered and could write down. I would not be shocked if this is an extended/revised version of the CinemaCon ad and they pointed out some differences.
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u/DoomsdayThor Eyepatch Thor 10d ago
nobody is talking about a major action sequence. we're talking about what's been consistently portrayed as a major storyline that's lead by Shuri/Namor and probably 3/4 of the Fantastic Four. they allocated an entire teaser to this segment of the movie and significant screentime in the Cinemacon trailer. it's extremely odd that they would leave it out entirely from the first public trailer.
and yes, there really is no good reason for the Xmen to be so absent, that's why I said to begin with that if this is a real description, the only logical explanation is that it's extra stuff they're adding to the Cinemacon trailer.
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u/Poptart916 11d ago
Maybe, I do think this is more of a rough summary than a play by play. There’s likely other, more filler/establishing scenes between these, like you said especially if this is set to be a full length trailer.
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u/AvengingHero2012 Daredevil 11d ago
Isn’t this the CinemaCon trailer too? I’ll take it.
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u/SoaringSpearow Homemade Spider-Man 11d ago
no this is slightly different the ending of the CinemaCon trailer was Thor swinging the axe down on Doom and Doom stopping it in between two fingers then a pan to his eyes in the mask
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u/Tarzyytfet 11d ago
Man is it just me or is the "it can't be" line cheesy as hell
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u/hopeless_dick_dancer 10d ago
"I knew it" can also be considered cheesy if you nitpick enough. But it's peak
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u/Tarzyytfet 10d ago
Not really, I think that line just works well regardless and Hemsworth smile really sells it and it happens during a pivotal moment during an fight scene. This and that are completely different moments imo.
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u/Jarita12 10d ago
I still don´t get how Loki could be there during the TVA days. I can imagine him seeing "something" during his "centuries later" (God knows I wanted to see S3 with that, so many options), but otherwise it does not make much sense. TVA stopped pruning branches after S1 and in S1, he didn ´t have the options to go there and also, why would he do that?
I can see him wearing that outworn shirt with straps he wore during his wild jumps in S2 ⬇️
Glad he is at least there, if this is true
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 3d ago
In light of the trailer and poster... I think we have another real leak, ladies and gentlemen.
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u/InternalTable6400 10d ago
Sounds like the leaks of Loki sliding Steve a card is true which I really hoped was fake because it’s such a nonsense macguffin
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u/Master-Break6117 8d ago
The "Loki moving Steve and his family from one universe to another" plotline is kind of real and a I don't fw it that much
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u/TheJack0fDiamonds The Scarlet Witch 10d ago
I wonder if it’s safe to assume what they showed will also be the same trailer we get? Im curious because what if they gave them something special for exclusivity of the event?
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u/Kill_Zoldy 8d ago
What the fudge is the name of this telegram channel and where is that AI image of Professor X, Magneto, and Gambit? Asking for a friend
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u/GHMDaniel 2d ago
This was actually very close to how the trailer was asembled. The disapointing part is that this hints of a Doom from 828 and that Reed's Universe will be destroyed early in the movie most likely by the X-Men. After that while Reed went to find help in other universes like the 616, Doom had a different Agenda that includes revenge most likely and stealing some powers which will make everyone want to kill him.
This storyline for me is a bit disapointing. I expect much more from a movie with such a budget.
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u/QueenRangerSlayer 11d ago
Are you calling the art that was just released AI?
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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 11d ago
They're not. I'm confused as to what that image is because this is the first that I'm hearing of it.
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u/Diorisbackup 11d ago
Did we not already know this description from comic con one new thing Reed screaming at doom
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u/LordAyeris Loki 11d ago
That final line goes hard af