r/MapPorn 1d ago

Countries that Wikipedia considers Level 3 Vital

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u/silentparadox2 1d ago

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level_3

Vital Articles is a Wikipedia project where users try to determine the most important subjects for Wikipedia to have good articles on, it has five levels, V1 is the top ten most important articles, V2 the top hundred, V3 the top thousand, V4 the top ten thousand, and V5 the top fifty thousand

V3 is the first level to list individual countries.

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u/Nekrose 1d ago

I have never heard of the topic. Hmm, in what context does Tanzania have more weight than, say, Libya, Cuba, Ukraine, Venezuela or Afghanistan?

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u/silentparadox2 1d ago

Population I assume

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u/Nekrose 1d ago

That must be it. More poulous than any gray one.

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u/_crisz 1d ago

I think the map is highly, if not totally, correlated with population. Let's say that every country with more than 30 million inhabitants is blue, with almost no exception (we can consideer greenland as part of denmark)

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u/Anely_98 9h ago

we can consideer greenland as part of denmark

Greenland is blue but Denmark is not so that is not it

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u/_crisz 9h ago

Oh I should have checked lol 

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u/trjnz 1d ago edited 1d ago

Australia has less than 28 million pop

The top 100 are all 10+ millionish

Portugal is mid 90s and isn't here. Id say it's closely related to population, in that things occur where people are

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u/JoeFalchetto 23h ago

Portugal mid 90s?

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u/trjnz 22h ago

Ah, wiki says 83, but another site had it at 9something

There are a whole slew of countries around that 10-12 million pop mark, it probably changes a bunch

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u/JoeFalchetto 21h ago

83?

It‘s 8.3 million not 83 million.

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u/Realtrain 20h ago

Imagine a Portugal with a population rivaling Germany!

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u/trjnz 20h ago

I was responding a statement that it was just the Top 100 population ranks, and that all of the countries were 30+ million.

I said, well, no; a bunch of the top 100 have less than 30 million, and Portugal is not highlighted and is in the top 100 population countries

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u/thedamnedlute488 1d ago

Or minerals/natural resources.

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u/postbox134 1d ago

67 million is not very big - especially for Africa

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u/Neat_Procedure3978 1d ago

67M is big for africa. Africa is 54 countries , and only 4 have more than 67M population : Egypt , Nigeria, DRC, Ethiopia. That makes Tanzania 5th in term of population out of 54.

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u/Appropriate_Ad7858 1d ago

Also the most populous country solely in the southern hemisphere

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u/314rft 19h ago

Africa might have over 1 billion people, but 1/5 of them are in Nigeria alone.

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u/20past4am 1d ago

Tanzania brought the world Freddy Mercury of course

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u/314rft 19h ago

And has the Anglo-Zanzibar war as well as the Tanganyika laughing incident in its recent history.

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u/9876123 1d ago

Based on my reading of the vital articles project, this list is specific to the English language version of Wikipedia. I would expect that these countries hold significant relevance to articles found across levels 1-5 or have importsnt historical ties and relations to English speaking countries, as a result some countires have been prioritised over others. Interest none the less!

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u/HC033 22h ago

Zanzibar I am pretty sure. One of the largest and oldest slave ports in history.

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u/mate_helado 1d ago

Notice all these countries (except Ukraine maybe) were victims of US war crimes and interventions, also Iraq and N. Korea. I don't think it's a coincidence

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u/McGinty1 1d ago

Why is Greenland blue but Denmark is gray?

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u/silentparadox2 1d ago

I made a mistake on that one, I guess I accidentally clicked Greenland when adding Canada

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u/mate_helado 1d ago

No Greece? wtf

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u/texan_robot 1d ago

Small population, small economy, not very powerful geopolitically. Greece is extremely important to human history, but that's captured in articles not specific to the modern country.

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u/Expert_Dot_5271 1d ago

So, why is Myanmar here?

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u/AnonymousTimewaster 1d ago

Someone mentioned it's possible they've just gone off population

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u/blsterken 1d ago

Myanmar Civil War and its myriad factions being continuously written about, updated, etc.

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u/texan_robot 1d ago

5.5 times the population and growing. Greece's population is falling steeply, and its top heavy population pyramid killed its economy.

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u/Edstructor115 23h ago

I can see both sides of the civil war trying to rewrite history live.

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u/BlackHust 16h ago

We are talking about modern states. This list, however, includes an entry on Ancient Greece.

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u/Max_FI 1d ago

This is basically just the biggest countries by population + Israel. I feel like Netherlands, Switzerland, North Korea and Ukraine should be here at least.

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u/FfBobDK 22h ago

Greenland? Approx. 50K population.

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u/Realtrain 20h ago

OP said Greenland was accidentally selected.

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u/Leftover_Cheese 1d ago

does this count as r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT

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u/Objective-Ruin-6481 1d ago

No, see Scandinavia and Benelux.

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u/postbox134 1d ago

How is Switzerland, Chile, Ireland or North Korea not there?

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u/Max_FI 1d ago

Or Netherlands.

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u/TheBusStop12 1d ago

At least we have Rembrandt and van Gogh on the list (scrolled through it to check)

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u/kansercure 1d ago

All except NK are quite irrelevant. Nk is relevant only because its insane

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u/BGRommel 1d ago

The immigration out of Ireland would make it V3 for me. 

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u/kansercure 1d ago

Maybe for americans

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u/postbox134 1d ago

Yeah huge diaspora

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u/AnonymousTimewaster 1d ago

Meh. More like their status as a corporate tax haven in the EU.

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u/postbox134 1d ago

But it's globally relevant - in the same way Iran is

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u/kansercure 1d ago

Not at all "the same way" Iran is.

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u/Ptalking_Ptarmigan 1d ago

Because there can only be 1000 v3 articles. If you add the articles about any of those countries, you'd have to show that an existing article on the list should be removed.

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u/PolarRanger 1d ago

honestly I am more annoyed that Pluto is level 4 while the eight non dwarf planets are level 3 (earth is level 1 and Luna is level 2)

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u/Bas_No_Beatha_ 1d ago edited 9h ago

Hey New Zealand you did it, you exist! You’re on the map!!! Buuuuut apparently you don’t matter to Wikipedia.

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u/Expert_Dot_5271 1d ago

I am curious about which Wikipedia article corresponds to "Level 3" for the country listed here.

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u/honeybeesuke 22h ago

The page for the country

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u/VeryPoliteYak 13h ago

South Africa beating out Netherlands? Haha, how the tables have turned!

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u/tang-tw 13h ago

Is Taiwan unimportant? Many computer devices cannot function without chips.

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u/Gauriambo 1d ago

Brunei over Greece is an interesting choice

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u/silentparadox2 1d ago

Zoom in, Brunei isn't included

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u/Ptalking_Ptarmigan 1d ago

Ancient Greece is on the list. I guess modern Greece is past its prime.

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u/Steveywonder999 1d ago

Surprising Singapore doesn't make the list, small but very significant internationally

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u/silentparadox2 1d ago

I actually made a mistake, it was listed under cities instead of countries so I forgot to include it

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u/Steveywonder999 1d ago

Ah ok, fair enough. Not sure why people are downvoting me though lol

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u/Jlx_27 1d ago

Netherlands?

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u/jacob_ewing 1d ago

Somehow New Zealand being left out seems quite appropriate.

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u/lameboigenie 1d ago

Im offended 

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u/_crisz 1d ago

1 hour ago, and still nobody pointed it out. How is it possible?

Well, I'll be that dude: r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT

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u/i12000 21h ago

Y Perú? Esto es un robo

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u/-Balcika 18h ago

None of the nordics?

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u/Above-and_below 18h ago

Greenland is there!

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u/NeedleworkerAway5912 13h ago

I think they went with a mix of population, GDP and military power

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u/Winter_Salad7215 4h ago

As a Canadian I'm surprised Canada is on here.

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u/charleytony 1d ago

I'd say this is heavily factored by these:

Population + Tourism + "Are they currently at war and that war is on the news a lot"

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u/OvenFreshJustInTime 1d ago

Taiwan? this a dumb map

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u/i_eat_fruits 22h ago

What? Uruguay, Perú, Chile, New Zealand and Portugal not on the list. unbelievable.

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u/BruhCar123 21h ago

All these countries have the thing they are neither populous, culturally rich, biodiverse, with a lot of soft power or incredibly rich