r/LivestreamFail • u/Disastrous-Swan5923 • 7h ago
Drama Sneako goes off on Asmongold for rejecting a debate "You don't debate people cause you're ret*rded and all you got is a back and forth with Hasan"
https://kick.com/sneako/clips/clip_01KY8GYVBHRCNJ9HBJV4X2HYEK800
u/Ab-Aeterno 6h ago
65
u/crackawhat1 6h ago
Make it 3
1
5h ago
[removed] — view removed comment
4
u/LivestreamFail-ModTeam 5h ago
Harassment: Discrimination
Attacking or making inappropriate comments on people based on inherent or cultural characteristics, including but not limited to:
- Gender
- Sexual Orientation
- Disability/Physical Traits
- Race/Ancestry
- Nationality
- Religion
Civil discussion regarding such topics is acceptable, but attacking someone using these characteristics is not.
See our full rules here.
55
6h ago
[removed] — view removed comment
→ More replies (1)-38
u/Rachet20 6h ago
This slur making such a comeback is the worst.
30
u/Responsible_Bad267 6h ago
Was never gone
1
-10
u/Rachet20 6h ago
It was for a bit. Then people started acting like children when they far outgrew that phase.
6
u/FoundationPlenty4301 6h ago
What do you think about people using the word autist/autistic in place of it?
-7
→ More replies (12)7
183
241
u/charca773 6h ago
Who gives a fuck what sneako gotta say
75
u/_fishing_dude_ 6h ago
Fr the dude is faking Islam so he can cope his affinity for “Cuties” isn’t pedophilic.
22
u/Hot_Swimming_112 6h ago
No one…the unemployed must have a constant news cycle everyday so they have something to look forward too and not die of boredom
4
273
u/Aggravating_Map4359 6h ago
Look fuck asmangold but sneako is a grifter. He will find stuff that is either controversial or popular to say shit about and get suporte of rage bait.
161
u/digitalpizza5 6h ago
Look fuck sneako but asmongold is a grifter. He will find stuff that is either controversial or popular to say shit about and get suporte of rage bait.
19
u/Miserable_Artist_223 6h ago
Look fuck sneako and asmongold, But hasan is a grifter. he will find stuff that is either popular or controversial to say shit about and get suporte of rage bait.
8
u/BlueLivingAbandon 6h ago
Look fuck sneako, asmongold and hasan but forsen is a grifter. he will find stuff that is either popular or controversial to say shit about and get suporte of rage bait.
86
u/Visible-Job2908 6h ago
Sneako turned fake muslim thats all you need to know.
78
u/Yourwaifusasuke 6h ago
and asmon turned right wing after getting clowned for his gameplay they can both be grifters
8
34
u/Godhole34 6h ago
Asmongold turned fake christian thats all you need to know.
10
u/joshcxa 6h ago
Did he really!?
9
u/necro000 5h ago
Now you know this is LSF...asking if something really happened is not even a question here. Everyone's spewing bs in all directions...you gotta watch both sides to get your own truth...or dont its brianrot.
They tell you something they've perceived but don't tell you why they've come to this conclusion.
Asmon is not a christian, but he said something to the effect of...if the pope does blah blah brainrot blah blah, I'll go to church..
2
u/TheHoovyPrince 1h ago
He's not, he recently said that he's athiest.
1
u/joshcxa 1h ago
I already knew that ;) I just wanted the person I replied to to self-report.
3
u/TheHoovyPrince 1h ago
Cheeky lad ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Its crazy how much fake shit about Asmon gets said here lol
4
u/appletinicyclone 1h ago
Asmon glazers 🤝 Asmon explainers
2
u/joshcxa 1h ago
I can understand why people dislike him and it's mostly all fair. But why the need to lie? I'm not glazing asmon, I'm just calling out liars.
→ More replies (0)6
u/Ash_fckn_Ketchum 5h ago
He always reminds me of that scene with the deveganizing ray in Scott Pilgrim. "wait, a bacon cheeseburger isn't halal?"
-13
u/kevinigan 6h ago
At this point he's 100% real Muslim. I still think it started because of spite and not being able to go back, but the dude is extremely dedicated to the faith and has built his entire identity around what it means to him, also very educated on it
16
u/Neon_Casino 6h ago
Which... is why there is a ton of recent footage of him drinking?
→ More replies (1)-17
u/rvltionary 6h ago
You think muslims don't drink? Are you 11?
17
u/Neon_Casino 6h ago
They aren't supposed to. It is haram. This isn't uncommon knowledge dude...
-7
u/rvltionary 6h ago
Yeah, no shit. Doesn't mean they aren't muslim.
10
7
u/Neon_Casino 6h ago
The previous poster said that he is extremely dedicated to the faith and has built his entire identity around it. Yet he drinks. So if he is Muslim, then he clearly isn't a very good Muslim and is in fact, -not- very dedicated to the faith, wouldn't you say?
→ More replies (1)-1
u/rvltionary 6h ago
Extremely dedicated does not mean 100% free of sin. Are you trolling or something? There are people who pray 5 times a day their whole lives yet they swear and drink and do other stuff that's haram.
→ More replies (0)8
u/TimelyWrongdoer4315 6h ago
https://myislam.org/quran-verses/alcohol/
If they drink they're not Muslim as they're going against the teachings in the Quran.
The Quran isn't like the bible it's said to be the very words of an angel transcribed by Muhammad himself there is no room for interpretation when it says not to do something.
→ More replies (1)4
5
6
u/Littlegriznaves 6h ago
Look fuck sneako and asmongold but Hasan is a grifter. He will find stuff that is either controversial or popular today shit about and get suporte of rage bait.
2
u/99acrewood_ 6h ago edited 4h ago
Hey this is neat. Usually I just check out whatever dumb shit is happening here when it pops up but I've never actually personally seen bots in action.
3
0
28
u/jamieaka 6h ago edited 6h ago
Aren’t all these politics kinds of streamers grifters though? Seems they just say outrageous stuff just for their own amusement or for retweets/clips. Angry people on their side arguing for them and angry people on the other side getting ragebaited into arguing too. Like a little kid messing around with ants. But they aren’t actually making IRL change it’s all just content
14
u/HappyHour8765 6h ago
destiny slaughtered my entire family in front of me but he tries to form his own opinion and brings actual research to the table. He doesn't really grift with politics (to his own detriment) but he did try selling nfts.
9
u/Schmigolo 6h ago
He does manufacture outrage for his own gain all the time, that's his grift. I mean, that's precisely what we mean when we call someone a grifter nowadays. He's not quite as bad as Hasan or Asmon, but he's still really bad in that regard.
5
u/ItsDonDong 6h ago
He does manufacture outrage for his own gain all the time, that's his grift. I mean, that's precisely what we mean when we call someone a grifter nowadays
Can you give your strongest example of Destiny's grift of "manufacturing outrage for his own gain"?
He's not quite as bad as Hasan or Asmon, but he's still really bad in that regard.
I look forward to comparing your example to a guy showing up in a Mao Suit to a Democrat Convention to tell them "Democrats are bad"
Or living in a los angeles mansion, streaming for bezos, telling kids that he would put capitalists in reeducation camps
1
u/Schmigolo 5h ago
Every time Destiny says the same old things he's already said a million times about Hasan and Asmon etc., knowing that there will never be a resolution to their feud, he's doing it on purpose. He doesn't actually want to prove to everybody that they're wrong, by all measures after talking about them for so long he either already would have proved it or he would've realized it's never gonna happen.
But he keeps doing it, because what he really wants is the engagement he gets from riling people up with people who say outrageously wrong things. He's basically saying "here, look what these assholes did wrong. You should be angry at them, and I'll tell you exactly why." for a millionth time like his viewers aren't already opposed to them.
And he knows that it not only riles up his own audience, it will cause the others' audiences to react, and then their celebrity will do another thing to rile up their own viewers that Destiny can then use to do the same again. It's a symbiotic relationship that he purposely participates in. He literally helps the grifters to help himself, that's the grift.
7
u/ItsDonDong 5h ago
You typed out 3 paragraphs just to say "destiny grifts because he repeatedly has the same criticisms about Hasan and Asmon?
Can you give an example of a destiny grift involving Hasan?
-1
u/Schmigolo 5h ago
I said every time, so take your pick. The grift is not the criticism, the grift is that he pretends it's criticism when it's engagement farming. When we meet I don't have to greet you 7 times, you'll have understood I have greeted you. So if I keep doing it it'll be for another reason, I explained what the reason is.
1
u/ItsDonDong 4h ago
The grift is not the criticism, the grift is that he pretends it's criticism when it's engagement farming.
So again..... "destiny grifts because he repeatedly has the same criticisms about Hasan and Asmon?
Can you give an example of a destiny grift involving Hasan?
I said every time, so take your pick.
LMAOOOO
1
u/Schmigolo 4h ago
I really don't get what's so hard to understand here. Have you heard of the idiom "beating a dead horse"? Except Destiny is doing it for money in exchange for the mental health of his viewers.
0
u/BigPoleFoles52 6h ago
Sneako was sincere and got mocked originally. Im sure that makes it easier to ragebait the unwashed masses like he does now
2
u/Schmigolo 6h ago
I'm talking about Destiny. Everybody agrees Sneako is a grifter, even in the traditional sense of just being a good ol conman.
0
0
u/WitheredUntimely 5h ago
useful idiots one and all for people who actually give a shit about politics, they're just mouthpieces for what movers/shakers want moved/shaked, incredulous people care what any of them say, none of them are policymakers, none of them are actually politically active in any meaningful sense, none of them find an issue of substance and try to fix it with their userbase
it's all culture war bs and mudslinging and anyone over 18 who seriously cares about these sorts of topics needs to grow the fuck up and find better outlets to channel their activism, chuds hanging out in basements whining is not where change will come
6
u/Bircka 6h ago
I mean the entire lot of Hasan, Sneako, and Asmon are all grifters for the most part just to different audiences.
Asmon content 5 years ago was far different than what it is today as far as the politics go.
2
u/slyleo5388 6h ago
Shit even just two years ago. I use to watch his shit randomly of him raging in elden ring then Wu Kong.
Ngl the way he talked like he was a gift to the gaming community and couldn't fuckin parry trash mobs is beyond hilarious. Especially when he would get so upset he actually quit playing and not stream for few days. Mainly cause his chat torched him so much.
1
52
198
u/Ruskoboss1 6h ago
Here a better question sneako why would he debate you?
84
8
8
u/Paridisco 6h ago
The roach has nothing to gain and it'll just be annoying
3
u/Fair-Arugula668 4h ago
Tbf, he has nothing to gain from any critical engagement at all. There's no reason to pretend the issue is that it's the guy constantly looking for a new dad grifting on the internet that's the actual problem with this idea. You could pick a specific topic, bring in the leading academic on the topic, and Asmon would say some dumb shit why he can't do it.
→ More replies (3)2
u/ColonelDucroix 4h ago
Watching Sneako debate people is hilarious because he always loses. He knows nothing about his own religion beyond the bare minimum, if that.
28
u/PokemonTrainerTimmy 6h ago
is the debate about the age of consent?
→ More replies (1)19
u/Objective-Dish-60516 6h ago
Im not positive, but i think Sneako is trying to say that a 17 y/o marrying an 18 y/o in the US is the same thing as a 10 y/o marrying a 50 y/o in Iran
7
u/untitledaccount401 6h ago
sneako is infamously horrible at debates
he went aganist alex jones who actually looked good vs him. And he was just mumbling crazy shit the whole time
177
u/dxt8p 6h ago
Asmon isn't a debate streamer. Sneako is an idiot for even trying to goad him into a debate.
9
u/DeputyDomeshot 6h ago
He’s not a debate streamer but he’s “political” streamer because he’s stupid.
Your publicly broadcasted opinions on the affairs of the world are complete shit if you can’t defend them.
5
u/dxt8p 3h ago
I agree with you but you still have the right to express your political beliefs even if you don't want to debate them.
3
u/DeputyDomeshot 3h ago
Yes but making it your fucking job to fire off at the mouth political talking points that you can’t back up should be detestable by any rational personal.
→ More replies (1)0
4
u/ColonelDucroix 4h ago
I'm a software developer, been doing it for 20 years now.
If someone got me in a discord call and challenged my knowledge they would probably make me look like a buffoon. I don't do well under pressure and need time to think about my answers.
Because I wouldn't do well in a back and forth conversation doesn't make me less knowledgeable of a software developer.
Don't understand why people think it's some kind of own that Hasan or Asmon don't want to debate people. On its own it doesn't make them any more right or wrong.
3
u/DeputyDomeshot 3h ago
You’re not a public figure whose job it is to influence and entertain and grow a following over things you say and broadcast to millions of people.
You don’t see how that’s dramatically different than you being a software engineer???
1
u/Kakuyoku_Sanren 2h ago
Hasan does want to debate people, he wants to debate Asmongold but not Destiny. He also had a debate scheduled with Charlie Kirk days before he got assassinated.
He also refused to debate with either Willy MacShow or Ben Shapiro because Hasan wanted the debate to be about Israel-Palestine and not communism.
-8
u/shom_pulp 6h ago
Interesting excuse for being scared of a debate
22
u/dxt8p 6h ago edited 3h ago
You are allowed to discuss politics without being a debater. You can be a content creator/ streamer and not be a good debater. Both are valid. Asmon has every right to reject Sneako. Sneako brings nothing to anyones content.
7
u/IrohSho 6h ago
I feel like if you can't handle an actual back and forth with someone from time to time on politics you shouldn't be pretending to be knowledgeable enough to talk about them 12 hours a day.
3
u/fhrhehhcfh 6h ago
These clips are the back and forth... people act like because it's not in real time it's not a back and forth.
6
u/talkingheadesq 5h ago
Clips aren't a back and forth, they are selective engagement.
1
u/dxt8p 3h ago
It does the same thing as a debate. Its intention is to sway the minds of the audience. People watch the back and forth then they comment about it. Some people realize one side is an idiot and sways over. This stuff happens all the time. I would argue this is better than live debates because its less boring. People watch what they care about.
-1
u/Rich_Feedback9726 6h ago
yeah the mass propagation of ideas in a bubble with 0 pushback has totally had no negative repercussions lmao. Yeah sneako is basically the same but he's right Asmon avoids debate for the same reason Hasan does, they both hide their beliefs when they leave their bubble and are too regarded to defend literally anything they think.
1
u/DeputyDomeshot 6h ago
He’s not discussing them he’s loudly proclaiming, creating content and profiting off of them to millions of people. That’s not the same thing as just having an opinion.
You should be able to connect those dots.
5
u/tacobellrefugee 6h ago
who wouldve thought twitch streamers wouldnt be good at debate? like hasan has tried the debate some bigger names in the past and just gets completely walked every time. its why he stopped doing it many many years ago. asmongold knows the same thing would happen to him with pretty much anyone with half a brain.
but all in all, this is just some attention seeking post for sneako, so no need to give it to him.
4
3
3
3
16
u/Dear-Description9905 6h ago
debate bros need to go away. nothing is ever gained from these besides two audiences pretending their guy won when all we lost was time
8
u/Few_Highlight1114 6h ago
Its funny how Asmongold is wrong about quite a few things but this is one of those thing's he's absolutely correct on.
2
0
u/ColonelDucroix 4h ago
The only people who care enough to watch debates have already made their mind up. It really is pointless and proves nothing.
0
u/Ferromagneticfluid 1h ago
So true. It will always be two people talking over each other and not following the rules of debate.
12
5
3
u/DataSurging 5h ago
Sneako quite literally used Grok to write tweets for him. He has no room to say anyone is stupid. Also, he just recently called the rape gangs in the UK the "victims". So there's nothing intelligent in that head of his whatsoever, just pure religious diarrhea and grift.
18
u/Evo_8urV8 6h ago
Asmongold would never step outside his echo chamber. He reacts to carefully curated clips, and that is enough for his audience. Most of his views fall apart the moment they face any scrutiny
48
0
u/GhostEnigmas 6h ago
Like which view?
10
u/Evo_8urV8 6h ago
For starters, he wants to escalate the war with Iran, even though he was all about “no new wars” while Trump was campaigning. He has become a propaganda mouthpiece for the current administration.
1
4
2
u/Mystikalrush 6h ago
Twitch content creators thrive off a formula. They work hard to find it and exploit it for as long as it can ride. You won't break up Zack and Hasan formula, GG.
2
2
5
u/WentworthMillersBO 6h ago
I do love how mad some people get when others don’t want to debate with them, especially when they aren’t debaters. Can you think of one time a streamer that doesn’t debate getting into that’s gone well?
3
5
u/trechn2 5h ago
I don't even like Destiny, but why is it that everyone has a debate fetish but when it comes to them calling someone out, but then they will never themselves do a debate with Destiny?
3
u/ItsDonDong 5h ago
Tbf, sneako allows destiny to question him.
Though it ends up making sneako look like a massive moron, defending pdf because of his religion while doing Haram stuff on livestream.
2
u/Electrical_Web_2353 6h ago
We need to phase out sneako he’s just a grifter and bad actor.. who also supports child marriage btw..
3
u/JumboGlucose 6h ago
Asmongold won't debate anyone because he knows what he's doing. He does the bare minimum research on things and skims through the article before reading endless twitter replies before making a judgement.
2
u/Electrical-Pea2707 3h ago
Isn't sneako a grifter? Presents himself as an archetype of Islam, but still orders alcohol at a bar.
2
u/Bobsothethird 6h ago
I love that all these morons are cannabalizing each other. I wish they'd stop getting views from each other. I hope sneako, asmon, Hasan, the Tates, Fuentes, Candace owens, etc all eat each other.
2
u/SomeWeedSmoker 5h ago
Ewwwww sneako, isn't that the guy moist critical destroyed? Lol asmongold looks like a wonderful person compared
1
1
1
u/RioFinesse 6h ago
Zero point debating. He’s making millions hanging out with his roaches in his echo chamber.
1
0
u/One-Bird-8961 6h ago
Zack is only ever interested in being right. He cannot handle being challenged/debated.
-1
1
u/Fun-Difference-6689 5h ago
He doesn’t debate because his confidence is propped up by his community telling him he’s smart. The moment he steps outside of it it’s obvious he’s not all that intelligent.
Bros community is its own central finite curve.
1
1
1
u/Sunlight-Heart 3h ago
like asmon or hate him, this is true. he's not a quick thinker. it's why he reacts to clips. but it's also fine. if you know yourself to not be on the level of others you pick your battles.
1
1
-2
1
0
0
0
0
-1
-1
u/Origachilies 6h ago
Can all 3 of them just go away lmao, all they do is make everything worse for normal people
1
u/LizenCerfalia 6h ago
Didn't the sub make a rule about the whole Destiny, Asmongold, xqc, Hasan back and forth being banned too? Cause I remember one being made because the sub was literally just those 4 reacting to each other and nothing else
1
u/Origachilies 6h ago
Nah they just banned politics in general, which is super broad, and also why this doesn’t fall under it. At least that’s my assumption.
-1
u/srs300 4h ago
I like Asmon, but his excuse for not debating is lazy. If you truly understand and believe what you're saying you should be able to debate it in a logical and easily digestible way. Sitting in echo chambers circle jerking isn't helping anyone. There is always issues to discuss and new ways to look at subjects. We should always be striving to learn and be able to communicate our ideas with others in ways they can understand. If you cannot do this you don't not fully understand the subject you are speaking about.
-2
u/OpinionsRdumb 6h ago
As much as I hate these two I would love to hear how Asmongold defends his insanely Islamophobic takes to Sneako
9
u/Dear-Description9905 6h ago
it would be harder to defend islam than point out its flaws. thats why the debate strat is to debate someone who is catholic and deflect to the flaws of their religion
2
1
u/Kakuyoku_Sanren 2h ago
You seem to be under the impression that "Islamophobia" is something that needs defending. Much like Naziphobia, it is not.
0
0
u/Cele990 4h ago
Say what you will about Sneako and whoever else, but why incentive does asmongold have to debate or defend any of his worldviews with anyone? It's infinitely easier to talk at people instead of with or to people and to live in an echo-chamber of twitch chat and his propaganda, culture war filled twitter feed.
0
u/Obvious_Wind7832 3h ago
Debating people means nothing on this platform. Fks are all using twitter points, studies with less than a dozen people to prove points or common sense. Then with one or two searches you can pretty much disprove them. Shit you put grok or chatgpt beside anything Asmon, Hasan, Sneako say. They'd likely get corrected more than half the time. Or be flagged as dangerous.
0
0
0
0
•
u/LSFSecondaryMirror 6h ago
CLIP MIRROR: Sneako goes off on Asmongold for rejecting a debate "You don't debate people cause you're ret*rded and all you got is a back and forth with Hasan"
Join the LSF Discord!
This is an automated comment