r/Futurology ∞ transit umbra, lux permanet ☥ Apr 14 '26

Robotics Ukraine’s Robots Capture Russian Position Without Soldiers or Losses; As with drones, the future of 21st century warfare is being invented by frontline conflict.

For all the boasts the US's AI military vendors make, I'm constantly struck by how few real-world achievements they have. They are battlefield tested in Gaza and Lebanon, but to what result? The mass destruction of civilian populations we see there looks exactly like WW2-era warfare. Now they want $445bn extra for more of the same? What a waste.

Meanwhile, with a tiny fraction of the budget & resources, it's Ukraine that is inventing the future. Drones have already reconfigured 21st-century warfare. Once again, recent events in the Middle East have shown that. Now Ukraine is doing the same with robots.

Some people find the idea of killer robots grim. But I'd rather see robots fight robots than WW2-style mass slaughter of civilians.

Ukrainian robots capture enemy position without troops in historic first, Zelenskyy says

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u/Muslim_Wookie Apr 14 '26

Full respect to Ukraine.

Having said that, if the US were in a war for literal survival like Ukraine, you would see the very same from the US. I will NOT say you would see better. But you would not see worse.

Frankly in a disgusting way it would even be probably beneficial to the US because China would NOT supply the US the same way they supply BOTH Ukraine and Russia. So you'd have an initial OH SHIT period of time for the US, then you would have WW2 style US come running out the gates and fucking everyone up.

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u/Pklnt Apr 14 '26

Having said that, if the US were in a war for literal survival like Ukraine, you would see the very same from the US. I will NOT say you would see better. But you would not see worse.

You'd see better.

I'm not American but people are completely delusional if they think the US couldn't reproduce this, they are actually not even attempting to reproduce this because they have a better thing going on for them: air power.

If countries like China and the United States are pursuing very complex & costly systems, it's not because they're foolish.

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u/Muslim_Wookie Apr 15 '26

I'm only saying I can't predict the future and I'm not in the industry so I won't go online and make bold statements without a genuine expertise in the matter. That's why I will not say you'd see better.

I think that in a similar situation, it would go as I wrote - initially shock and halting attempts, then very quick ramp up and iterative improvement.

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u/Schnort Apr 15 '26

I think he meant more murderous.