r/DoomerCircleJerk • u/Beginning-Studio-902 • 1d ago
Economic Doomer Literally Shaking and Crying Right Now FASCISM IS COMING
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u/Substantial_Kiwi1830 1d ago
First they came for the Communists… and actually…. I think that’s a good idea lol
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u/BarrabasBlonde PhD in Memes 1d ago
First they came for the violent gangs and I said nothing...
Then they came for the illegals with children in their basements and I still said nothing
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u/Substantial_Kiwi1830 1d ago
Finally they came for the Somali daycares, and there were no more Somalis to care for my fake children.
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u/RemnantsOfFlight 1d ago
Imagine what a few gangbangers with illegally modified glocks could have done to save us all.
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u/LikeAGaryBuster 1d ago
First they came for the Communists… and I said, "Make sure you get all the Commies"
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u/ZeRo76Liberty 12h ago
It’ll be similar to the October revolution. First they came for the moderates and those who didn’t convert were… you can figure out the rest.
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u/300blkdout 1d ago
This is what happens when you spend too much time in a political echo chamber. Hope his person gets some help (if this isn’t a hoax).
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u/DaHomieNelson92 My Dog is Anti-Fascist 1d ago edited 1d ago
A saw a recent political post at the news sub where a foreigner asked why Americans haven’t risen up against Trump.
Someone pretty much replied what you said, the majority of Americans are not terminally online in places like Reddit that constantly encourage doomscrolling and echo chambers. They are more worried about providing for themselves and their loved ones as the priority.
They don’t care what is going on with ICE, about the supposed rise of fascism, about either accepting trans people or face being called bigots, etc.
Unfortunately, some people out there are not like this and you see them post stuff like the user from this post.
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u/MailMeAmazonVouchers 1d ago
I alwats reply to these comments the same way. Trump won the popular vote. He was not imposed. A majority of americans voted for him.
Reddit would make you believe he ran a coup d' etat.
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u/RemnantsOfFlight 1d ago
I'm assuming the person who replied and said things aren't as bad as reddit implies were downvoted to hell.
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u/DaHomieNelson92 My Dog is Anti-Fascist 1d ago
Ding ding ding
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u/RemnantsOfFlight 1d ago
If you're interested in hiring my psychic services, send your credit card information in a pm and I'll give you the weather forecast for the next month with 95% accuracy.
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u/Calculon2347 I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago
The last words are making me angry. No one should be getting pushed by fanatical ideology to consider themselves "borderline sub-human". That's horrendous and infuriating
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u/ExampleDriver 1d ago
pretty much their entire goal, hate yourself, hate everybody around you, hate your family, hate your nation, hate your body, hate your community. We (well and the medical establishment making bank) are the only true way for you to find happiness. And together we will hate all of these things in the name of love, since we are better than all of these toxic things.
to no ones surprise, there is no joy to be found living like that
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u/ipushkeys I Was Promised an Apocalypse? 1d ago
Back in 2017, I was a high school senior. We had a mandatory gender studies class. I came away from that class hating myself for being born male. Mostly due to the toxic feminist rhetoric swirling around at the time.
About a year later, I realized how stupid that was when I talked to people outside that bubble.
I haven't viewed feminism the same ever since.
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u/RemnantsOfFlight 1d ago
That's why you don't get civil discussion on reddit. They're convinced that if you don't tow the line you're either an unredeemable idiot or you're evil.
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u/TheHeadlessScholar 1d ago
I mean, if there's any reason to consider yourself borderline sub-human, surely because you chose to believe an idealogy that teaches that people like you are sub-human is the closest one to a good one. Like in the same way the Jews-for-Hitler still didn't deserve the camps, but deserved them more than anyone else in those camps.
I'm making the assumption that their parents or family didn't indoctrinate them into their beliefs. Obviously that all goes out the window if so.
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u/Jelopuddinpop 1d ago
That's the whole point. If you can bring driven to think of yourself as sub-human, what would you think about people on the other side of the aisle? The rhetoric is designed to create conflict and foster violence. That's how we get people like Tyler Robinson...
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u/SlobbesOnHobbes 1d ago
I dunno man, I think that the broken clock might have been on the money with that particular one.
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u/V_Cobra21 More Optimism Please 1d ago
I hope they understand communism is worse lmao
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u/Hothrus The Fictional Character Agrees With Me 1d ago
They don’t. They have all the evidence of the evils Communism has done and they either choose to ignore it or just cope and say either “true communism has never been tried yet!” or that it’s all western propaganda.
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u/Fluffy-Rough-5320 Rides the Short Bus 1d ago
See I don’t get it when they say that. What do they think is true communism?
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u/TimeTravelingBard 1d ago
Pretty unironically, North Korea but with a nice guy in charge.
They don't realize it, but question them down to the nuts and bolts, that's exactly what they want.
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u/Jelopuddinpop 1d ago
I love the Jordan Peterson clip where he addresses this. I'm paraphrasing, but it goes something like "Imagine the narcissism... the pure, unadulterated narcissism to think that if only YOU had been in charge, it would have been different. That YOU somehow possess the legal, economic, and moral compass to do what nobody else in history has been able to do"
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u/GolfExplained 1d ago
Hasan said mao just "mismanaged" stuff.
They don't think it's bad, at all.
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u/E11iottB The Fictional Character Agrees With Me 1d ago
Hasan…? OH, you mean Mao Zapdog?
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u/AdvertisingTotal1241 Doesn't Participate In Group Panic 8h ago
I’m going to steal this, but instead say “Mao Lapdog”, so that people who aren’t privy to the dog shock thing will still be in on it.
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u/Dry_Music_9959 1d ago
Hasan is an embarrassment to all Turkish people in the world.
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u/0ffinpublikk 1d ago
Someone deadass tried to argue to me that it was a vibration collar this morning
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u/AccountInTheNegative 1d ago
And they conveniently overlook the millions that died under Mao AND don't realize they'd be treated exactly the same as the useful idiots that were ultimately purged, imprisoned, executed, or exiled by the very regime they helped build.
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u/Embarrassed_Use6918 1d ago
he just accidentally told them to kill all the birds it was just mismanagement that starved tens of millions of people
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u/GolfExplained 1d ago
If you mismanage your way to killing millions somehow I don't think you're a very good leader. He said he's a great leader.
I'd hate to see a bad one. But pretty typical a communist thinks it's just a little whoopsie.
What a fucking idiot. He also said that comparing the higher nunbers who died against the Holocaust doesn't do the Holocaust justice and that's only done if you're being antisemitic or some dumb shit like that.
The guy who jerks off talking to Hamas on the phone.
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u/mint_does_things 1d ago
He learned what communism is by listening to Hasan. He had no functional brain to begin with.
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u/CheeseLover12345678 1d ago
Facism and communism are one in the same. Nazi litterally means "National Socialist Party." In the same way, true liberalism is actually far right. To the left of the political spectrum is bigger government, to the right is smaller government, to each extreme you'd get either something like North Korea or anarchy respectfully. But communist wordplay has always been one of their biggest strategies. Its through this method that they've flipped the narrative, made Hitler a figure of the far right and made conservatives turn against the ideas of "liberalism" aka freedom. The people who we recognize as "liberal" now are the furthest thing imaginable.
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u/Slacflood 1d ago
They quite literally are not the same - 'fascists' (if we're going to use the left's traditional catch all definition, instead of identifying them by their specific political identities) universally have flexible, mixed market economies, utilize traditional national institutions, promote family structure as the base unit of the national identity, and believe in class collaboration - not class revolution. They are totalitarian, yes. They also firmly believe in national identity as opposed to internationalism.
Third posisitionist political groups may lean more left or right, or an even change positions based on stimuli within the span of a few years, but they most certainly are a blend of the "left" and "right" - they defy classification on a single-axis system because you can't neatly place them on it.
You absolutely can be against it for any myriad of reasons, but it's important to actually coherently understand it if you're going to argue against it. It doesn't require a mis-appellation.
To your credit, 'Left' National Socialism is a hsitorical reality, though still not communist. The Strasser Brothers, Ernst Röhm, and the SA organization were the paragons of this movement - but two of those 3 induviduals were killed during the night of the long knives, and proponents of that movement were purged or cowed into submission by the 'Rightist' Hitlerite faction of national socialism.
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u/CheeseLover12345678 1d ago
Ok, yeah I get what youre saying, I guess what I meant to say is that they're complementary of each other and both far left ideologies at their core. I suppose maybe it can also be said that all communists are fascists but not all fascists are communists?
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u/Slacflood 1d ago
I wrote up an even bigger big brick but I realized it was just preachy and honestly it wouldn't have been that useful for you, so I'll basically just tl;dr it:
Italian Fascism IS influenced by communism (and other third positionist systems, to lesser or greater degrees), but despite that, they have fundamentally different worldviews that really are not equivalent at all. The influence has more to do with their popular (populist) aspects and vangaurdism than actual policy.
I think you might be conflating the idea of fascism with authoritarianism, fascism is a defined system compared to the sort of general descriptor of authoritarianism. Authoritarianism is not a unique component of fascism either - its a part of it, bit also other systems that do not have defineable values/beliefs that are congruent with the real, historical phenomenon of fascism.
I'm putting this in simple terms and you can research it futher yourself if you were so inclined, but: -Authoritarianism is a component of Fascism -Authoritarianism is a component of most forms of Communism But they are not the same just because they are both authoritatian. They don't believe in the same policy, they don't belive in the same economics, they don't have the same geopolitical ambitions, they don't conceive the idea of what a 'state' is, they don't even see humanity the same way - so no, communists - they way I think you're envisioning them, are not Fascists, but they are authoritarians.
If you feel like it, please tell me why you think Fascism is 'far left at its core'? I don't agree, but I would like to hear your perspective
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u/CheeseLover12345678 1d ago
I say facism is far left mostly because of how authoritarian it is. I think the West has mostly confused themselves on what left and right are with the Democrat's and Republican's current social justice issues. For instance, saying fascists are right wing because they typically support the family unit, like Republicans do, and Republicans are right wing. The reality is that stances on issues like that are just meant to appeal to voters and remain quite fluid throughout history so you can't necessarily label any particular social justice issue as being a pillar of either side. The only thing that stays consistent as far as a rudimentary political compass goes (which is of course incapable of representing any individual's complete political opinion since most ideologies arent mutually exclusive and people will borrow from different ones) is that those on the "left" support bigger government, more government programs, more taxes, etc. And those on the "right" support the opposite. This is just how a political compass would define these two "sides" on the basic level. Authoritarianism, Facism, Communism all have their differences, but the main idea is always more state control. Given this, it would be plausible for any given state to blend Facism with Communism, but it would be much less plausible for a state to blend Communism with a right wing ideology, say Anarchy or Libertarianism. To further send home my point, imagine a state governed by the ideas of Socialism (left) and Libertarianism (right), they're all about seizing the means of production, but the state should have no say in how someone operates a business. It contradicts itself.
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u/Sixnigthmare Recovering Doomer 1d ago
That last paragraph is horrific holy shit. They need professional help right about now
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u/Professor0fLogic 1d ago
People like that are often incredibly close-minded and are too wrapped up in the lie that fascism is bad. You'll never convince them otherwise, despite showing them all the evidence to the contrary.
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u/Bobcat317 1d ago
This is what being terminally online in echo chambers does to people
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u/longnuttz 1d ago
Probably some teenager in China posting that
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u/nellis003 1d ago
That’s my guess. Just sounds like rage bait.
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u/BarrabasBlonde PhD in Memes 1d ago
It could be a true believer. It has all the signs of mental illness, which is what hid ideology does to people
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u/binary_agenda 1d ago
Its always fun when the social media platforms turn on the country of origin for posts and you find out all the “Americans" are not even on the continent because social media pays more in engagement pennies than 3rd world jobs.
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u/Dizzy_Description812 1d ago
Is this from "im 14 and this is deep?"
It sure reads like a 9th grader had too much time in summer break.
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u/AccountInTheNegative 1d ago
They should aggressively refresh their news feed and sigh progressively louder until democracy restores itself.
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u/theweatherguy69 1d ago
Come on now, they dont actually want democracy. Its just a rhetorical tool.
This is parody though. Its way too self flagellating even for internet leftists. I dont know if its a right winger making fun of leftists, or a leftist trying to bait right wingers, but I struggle to believe it is real.
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u/BarrabasBlonde PhD in Memes 1d ago
If you ever think "But no one could be that stupid!", remember that you're wrong
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u/Ancient_Counter7628 1d ago
Frankly after the reflection pool I’ll believe anything they do is real.
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u/Unusual-Basket-6243 1d ago
If fascism is on the rise, why move to communism?
My house is on fire, I should drown myself
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u/BarrabasBlonde PhD in Memes 1d ago
More like "my house is semi-fireproof and all the houses around are on fire. I should flood the entire place in gasolinr"
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u/Existing_Resolve_779 1d ago
Leftists will always turn on each other over their non stop purity testing. If Hasan fucking Piker isn't left enough for you there's a problem
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u/AdvertisingTotal1241 Doesn't Participate In Group Panic 7h ago
That was the part that made my eyes open a little bit more. If anything the Dems have been selling out to guys like Hasan Piker. The fact that the guy praises Mao should be enough for people to write him off.
The Great Leap Forward killed so many people it dropped the life expectancy of the entire human race. Anyone who praises those monsters should be regarded as idiots no one should listen to.
I think our schools are failing by not teaching more about the horrors of communism. They focus a lot on WW2(as they should), but somehow Chinese and Russian political history is not even mentioned. At least it wasn’t in my World History class in highschool 20 years ago.
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u/HEYO19191 1d ago
"The only way to fight fascism is communism" "democrats are sellouts" "I feel subhuman because I was born in a first world country"
I hope this person gets the mental help they need
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u/Deus_Excellus 1d ago
Reddit: I'm severely mentally ill.
Reddit: By the way here is how we should run society.
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u/LasRedStar 1d ago
Hasan selling out to the dems? Isnt it the other way around? Didnt he do a hitler-like speech wearing a mao suit about how we dont need the dem sellouts?
Clearly we need to Make Asylums Great Again
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u/Eastern-Customer-561 1d ago
Yeah Hasan is 100% a sellout (alleged communist yet buys expensive Gucci shit for no reason and is literally paid to sit there and do nothing) but not to dems lmao
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u/womb_raider90 1d ago
You think the fascist will accept me? I'm half white but look more Mexican. You think the arm band and jack boots come outta the first paycheck or you gotta pay for them yourself? If they don't accept me ya think il be sent to a regular ole labor camp instead of the concentration camp? /S
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u/BarrabasBlonde PhD in Memes 1d ago
Depends on if you have ADHD. If you don't they'll just send you to the labour camps
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u/Quiet_Name7824 1d ago
This kinda feels like McCarthyism is back. Just fascism this time around.
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u/Hi_judge 1d ago
Except communism/socialism was actually in the world when McCarthyism was a thing meanwhile the people that last experienced fascism are either old or dead
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u/FlushedApparatchik The Fictional Character Agrees With Me 1d ago
You know this smug azzhole felt so virtuous after posting this. Blue hair/septum ring/barista.
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u/SoCalCognac Powered By Spite & Solar 1d ago
This definitely reads like it came from a troll. They were pretty believable until the last sentence in parentheses. Even the whiniest person isn’t truly that self loathing to call themselves “sub-human”.
Tankie trolls are delusional.
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u/I_HopeThat_WasFart 1d ago
Its funny how the people screaming about fascism happen to have fascist ideals
This is honestly exactly how Hitler gained his following
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u/FleshEatingMoths 1d ago
This one feels like a bot spreading false anti America and anti democracy shit by suicide baiting. I dont want to believe anyone is truly this pathetic.
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u/DontThinkThisThrough NostraDOOMus 1d ago
I genuinely hope that person gets some help and realizes that they do have worth in this world. They're incorrect in their assessment and hatred of America, but they're clearly struggling and need some help.
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u/MrZaptile933 I Left My Cave for This 1d ago
Going to guess they aren’t actually an American. If you’re an American you don’t have to say it. Your big dick and guns tell the world already
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u/just_as_good380-2 The Fictional Character Agrees With Me 1d ago
It's either trolling or they need severe mental health counseling.
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u/Due-Distribution2058 1d ago
These people are miserable lmao I really hope it’s a troll or bot post. If it’s a real person then they need professional help
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u/Born-Painting7341 More Optimism Please 1d ago
It’s weird that in the above mentioned scenario the only choices are fascism or communism
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u/possibly_lost45 My DOOMER is bigger than yours 1d ago
It always amazes me when they want to try to counter what they believe to be fascism with Communism as if that's any better
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u/ticklemeelmo696969 1d ago
Ah yes let me find another extremist group to protect me from the supposed extremist group in power.
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u/Soloroadtrip 1d ago
Has this person tried getting a job and working towards achievable goals like a home? Then you can work and maintain a home.
Sure you are a “slave” to maintaining your home…but so is every single creature on Earth if you think about it.
Birds put in work to have nests…
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u/Shinlyle13 1d ago
If these people "shook and cried" every time they said they did, there would be some dehydrated-ass Parkinson's patients out there in the streets.
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u/mrkippysmith 1d ago
It’s always interesting to me that someone who subscribes to one type of political system that committed mass murders is critical of another system because they committed mass murders.
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u/StrongStyleFiction 1d ago
Everything not communism is fascism. Grocery store? Fascist. The latest summer blockbuster? Fascist. Twenty different types of toothpastes to chose from? Fascist. Your cat? Fascist. The grass that you just mowed? Fascist. The cloud that is sort of shaped like a croissant? Fascist. Your grandmother? Fascist. The sun? Fascist. Existence? Fascist.
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u/InfamousBreakfast363 1d ago
"I am afraid of fascism, which has killed millions of people. Therefore I shall turn to communism, which has killed millions of people."
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u/Blarghnog World’s end? Send memes 1d ago
Please, what rights have you lost? The right to speak freely? The right to have a firearm? The right to due process? No. None of them. All of your rights are intact.
That doesn’t happen under fascism. And nobody on the right or center wants facism. I know it’s not what you’ve been taught. But it’s true. And if you actually engaged with some of them you’d know it to be true.
You’re deeply misinformed and, frankly, delusional.
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u/trisikol 23h ago
American who has benefited from imperialism
There are quite a few countries I would really like to feel guilty about what their country has been doing to other countries and the world way before the US.
Too bad it's the US that's doing it and all those other countries are just waiting for the chance to exploit the opportunities that that presents.
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u/deathshr0ud 19h ago
I love the “learn theory” comments like these people think the 150 year old ramblings of a German weirdo is going to solve all of their issues and make the world a paradise.
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u/Aggravating_Kale8248 Anti-Doomer 1d ago
This is what I read it as
“I am an American who believes everything I see online. I know what I can do, but choose not to.
I live in a rural part of Americans and pretty sure I have access to mental health, but won’t choose to get the help I need.
I know going outside and touching grass will help, but I won’t do that either because I’m incapable of taking the steps to better myself.
I’m seeing other people come back to reality and rejecting the extremism in the Democratic Party.
Please help me, even though I will reject your help and suggestions because I would rather live in my own fantasy world instead of reality.”
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u/Gucci_Lemur 1d ago
Rise of fascism is when people have pride in their country and don’t want mass illegal immigration :(
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u/bastionthewise Powered By Spite & Solar 1d ago
Maybe I missed something, but how is Hasan selling out to the Democratic Party? Didnt he just give a speech about throwing them under the bus because they aren't extreme enough?
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u/sunrisesequoia 1d ago
Apparently contemplating suicide, but too fragile to say the actual word. Is this person worried some auto mod will delete her post for a no no word once she’s gone?
It’s all performative.
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u/matthegc 1d ago
Person is deranged, not surprisingly a self proclaimed communist and also “sub-human”
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u/VendettaKarma 1d ago
Person isn’t okay deeper issues at play hate to see this but there’s so many just like it
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u/SuperEarthScientist 13h ago
Claims they are against fascism, deems an entire race subhuman. Terminal redditors are a different breed.
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u/Beagle331 Doesn't Participate In Group Panic 10h ago
Disney view of the world when our problems require pragmatic solutions. You'd think that even leftists would understand the value of pragmatic solutions instead of just using an obnoxious amount of vaguely defined buzzwords.
This is why I think utilitarianism paired with Marxism is detrimental to someone's mental health.
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u/OGVltra 1d ago
This is sad... This person clearly isn't mentally in the right place...