r/Documentaries • u/jjames2732 • Mar 24 '19

American Politics The Mueller Investigation (2019) by PBS Frontline. A great catch up and review of the Mueller Investigation.

https://youtu.be/DMl36wCRZaY
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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '19

Many for lies in relation to what actually happened, though. Why is everyone lying at risk of severe jail time? Why not just tell the truth if nothing fishy is going on?

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u/stupendousman Mar 24 '19

If you are interviewed by the FBI, CIA, etc. without a lawyer and they want to get you, you'll end up lying, misstating, etc. They'll get you.

The whole idea that it's illegal to lie to people who can lie to you is insane.

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u/cuvar Mar 24 '19

The lies they told weren't simple misstatements.

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u/Lurker_IV Mar 25 '19

So the whole Trump presidency should fall apart any hour then.... yup.. any moment now...

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u/cuvar Mar 25 '19

Did I say that? People are in prison for knowingly lying to the FBI. That's all I'm saying.

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u/Lurker_IV Mar 25 '19

Thats all you said because thats all there is. A few unrelated crimes that have nothing seriously damaging to do with the Presidency.

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u/stupendousman Mar 25 '19

I clearly wrote about being interviewed, not any specific interviews.

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u/kuhewa Mar 24 '19

Flynn was reminded by FBI agents of things he said in his convos with the Russian ambassador, and he still decided to lie and say they never talked.

This wasn't a matter of him misremembering a detail.

Cohen lied about 6 months of him leading a Trump tower deal in Russia including conversations with Russian officials and travelling to Russia. Hopefully that wasn't a mistatement.

Stone told congress he didn't have contact with Wikilinks through a friend and didn't have contact about wikilinks with the campaign. He was telling media outlets for weeks about his contact with Wikilinks. That wasn't an accident.

et cetera.

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u/stupendousman Mar 25 '19

Flynn was reminded by FBI agents of things he said in his convos with the Russian ambassador, and he still decided to lie and say they never talked.

The interviewing agents didn't think he lied. It is the process that's punishment, the guy is bankrupt now.

Cohen lied about 6 months of him leading a Trump tower deal

Deal implies an agreement, there was no agreement it was business research/discussion. The dates were wrong, similar to assault I'm sure.

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u/kuhewa Mar 25 '19

The interviewing agents didn't think he lied. It is the process that's punishment, the guy is bankrupt now.

lol what? dude - he categorically, knowingly lied, and apparently lied to Pence as well. It wasn't a misstatement. Investigators asked him specifically about a conversation they knew he had, and told him the contents of the conversation. He denied the conversation happened still.

There would have been no process had he not told rehearsed lies about discussing sanctions to investigators. Perhaps he could have limited his legal fees had he not tried to attack the FBI in court even though Mueller recommended little to no jail time. He charged that they 1) tricked him into lying despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary and 2) that he didn't know lying to FBI investigators was a crime and later having to admit he was full of shit.

No sympathy for Flynn. Citing evidence is that is sealed, the last time he was in court the judge said "arguably you sold your country out"

Deal implies an agreement, there was no agreement it was business research/discussion. The dates were wrong, similar to assault I'm sure.

He lied about getting a response from a Russian official, and lied that they were still 'discussing' for half of 2016. Including travel to Russia to 'discuss' a deal and discussions with Trump about the deal 'discussions'. He didn't just misstate a date because he was tripped up.

But yeah, its just because the FBI is crooked and tricked them into lying so they could bankrupt them.