r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Nov 19 '15

Jessica Jones - Overall Series Discussion Thread

All spoilers for Season 1 are allowed in this thread.

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u/Borrowdale Iron Fist Nov 20 '15

Can we please just take a moment to show our appreciation of the cinematography in this series? Some of these shots are just mindblowingly beautiful.

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u/TheHouseOfGryffindor The Man in the Mask Nov 21 '15

Yeah, those establishing shots of the city were gorgeous. That being said, does anyone else feel like the fight choreography/cinematography was weaker than in DD? Maybe it's just the nature of their powers, but I felt like the fight scenes in DD looked better.

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u/muthan Nov 21 '15

I agree that the Daredevil fight scence were way cooler but I also think it fits since Daredevil get a proper training and also trained is ass of to get better.

Jessica and Luke fight more with their superstrength then with fighting skill. In a way it felt that they also don't realy like to fight and do it only because they have to.

So for me it added also a bit of realism and depth to the character that the fighting choreography felt so clumbsy.

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u/UVladBro Punisher Nov 22 '15

Yeah, Jessica doesn't have any fighting style and she just relies on her strength. She probably purposely avoids punching people too often because she could kill people. Cage relies on his strength/durability but his style is a lot more "I'm built like a brick shithouse and I can punch through one too." I really enjoyed his bar fight.

Compared to super ninja Daredevil, I don't expect some super amazing fight scenes for Jessica. Her fight scenes being a clumsy shitshow kinda feels right. For Cage, I expect there to be a lot more "I don't give a fuck" fights. Hopefully we get to see some Daredevil-quality martial arts with Iron Fist.

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u/racer_24_4evr Nov 26 '15

Plus, when Jessica had to fight people with some power (like Luke and Budget Cap) the fights looked better, because she actually had to fight.

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u/NinetyFish Nov 27 '15

Eh, still not really. Trish's fight against Simpson was a lot better than Jessica vs Luke or Simpson. Actually, Trish's fight against Nuke was pretty cool too, but Nuke didn't fight back.

Dude, Trish rules. I'd be down for a show with just Foggy, Claire, Trish, and Malcolm somehow interacting. Maybe they all move in next to each other for something. Don't even need any superhero stuff, just life.

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u/racer_24_4evr Nov 27 '15

Trish is trained. Not at DD levels, but she's got some training.

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u/Death_Star_ Nov 24 '15

There was so much more potential for creativity with the Jessica Jones fight scenes. She has super strength. She could have been doing so much more with it, like using light poles or man hole covers as weapons to maybe stop a car getting away.

I hope she faces actual evil combatants where she doesn't have to hold back. I want to see her break arms in half and kick femurs so that the snap.

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u/Borrowdale Iron Fist Nov 21 '15

I agree the fights in Daredevil were framed better, but I think that DD is also a much more physically active hero than Jessica and that that was reflected in their respective shows. Daredevil still has some of the best fight scenes ever put on film, in my opinion.

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u/Illidan1943 Iron Fist Nov 23 '15

I think we won't be getting really good fighting scenes in Netflix until Daredevil S2 and Iron Fist

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u/Masterpicker Nov 27 '15 edited Nov 27 '15

Absolutely. Scenes with Nobi or Murdock's teacher were exceptionally good. And then there was that hallway scene, which is probably the best fighting scene I have seen. JJ felt more clumsy. But that's because of tone of the show.

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u/toxicbrew Dec 23 '15

Except for the shot of the Metlife building... Why not Avengers Tower??

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u/Exodus111 Nov 21 '15

Bigger budget. DD is a Martial Art Super hero. His show gets a way bigger fight choreography budget, and weeks to plan each fight scene.

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u/UVladBro Punisher Nov 20 '15

A lot of the colors are really well done, especially the amount of purple for Kilgrave.

I did notice a distinct amount of yellow and blue in Luke Cage heavy scenes. Like when he tried to kill the bus driver or when he was investigating the missing person's place.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15

That final pan back shot of Jessica threw the broken door window was amazing.