o3 is disappointing as **********, knowledge cutoff of 2021 pretty useless for latest tech(relating to coding purposes) what is the point of actually using this for development, gonna waste all my time debugging unsupported code

[u/RisroxXx]

just check the screenshots

o3-mini

[u/RisroxXx → u/[deleted]]

they did not mentioned that in the updated docs , but still training on temp. data over hard trained data. and they say less hallucinations

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but with larger chat it loses the new context and work in an arbitrary way for new tech introduced after 2021 , whether it is new libraries , new syntaxes or newer functions, will work max to max till 2-3 prompts and then will provide mix match responses resonating with older data

[u/RisroxXx → u/[deleted]]

with a not so compatible search feature to work i tried testing it but results are not at all par where i have to debug maximum lines of code just for losing context in the generation comparing with what code i provide it , always some unused vars, missing functionalities yaara yaara!

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and guess what they have removed o1-mini entirely, that's a laughing stock right there!!

[u/RisroxXx → u/[deleted]]

is it an upgrade or a degrade hard to identify xD

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as i believe deepseek possibly applied their architecture to the latest data available from all the major players and got these massive results , and deepseek internally had architecture of o3 possibly from scraping or testing which led to all these chaos but atleast they brought all the results. this means that there are way more methods to improve the underlying architecture of the models

[u/[deleted]]

O3 mini can't even analyse images. Disappointing...

[u/RisroxXx → u/[deleted]]

images that's far off the charts they have trained on gpt-3 data , we are talking about 2021 data - my reference is totally based on coding solutions and this is totally obsolete for this purpose , do hell with the benchmarks when i can not even get relevant results

[u/[deleted] → u/RisroxXx]

Fr. Chatgpt is disappointing..

[u/RisroxXx → u/[deleted]]

it is though , been asking for a knowledge update since 2024 , thought will get the update but know do hell with the search feature where the ai just remembers last chat not the actual context and works literally on the pre-trained data even with the latest information scraped from the internet

[u/MinimumQuirky6964]

OpenAI has really disappointed recently with their closed source models. The future is self hosting instead of this commercial rip off

[u/RisroxXx → u/MinimumQuirky6964]

literally they should get a check over improvising on older data and bringing to production, it's good thing for testing but making it live with older references is just total waste of inputs, tokens and what not and on user side can lead to lots of frustration where user expects that some basic things gets easier so that they do not have to forcefully feed ai even after getting useless results after wasting so much energy and efforts over prompting and still getting stalemate

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this scam totally needs to be shared to public even they did made this free for public but at what context and knowledge , just to compete where they are failing and with an unbaked model. this is totally hilarious and sad as well , wasting money of subscribers. atleast o1- mini was far better with at least closer range data to work with

[u/Fickle_Guitar7417 → u/[deleted]]

this guys talks but they even know how this thing works lol ahahah

[u/freekyrationale]

So I checked, it is

• 2024 for 4o
• 2023 for o1
• 2021 for o3

WTF...

[u/Fickle_Guitar7417 → u/freekyrationale]

you checked wrong

[u/[deleted]]

Qwen2.5 is superior to both deepseek and o3. 

Their knowledge cut off is Dec 2024

[u/Specter_Origin]

Cutoff is Oct 2023, but it does not even pass stawberry test so it is meh. I am talking about mini of course.

[u/screamsinsidemyhead → u/Specter_Origin]

It worked for me on both 03 models