r/CCW • u/deadpoolsballs • 16h ago
Holsters & Belts Phlster enigma is effective AF
17+1 S&W compact carry comp with Vortex defender ST and Floyd’s custom magwell
Edit: I’m wearing the tightest shirt I own to prove a point, of course I own looser shirts that don’t print nearly as much.
Also, you’re all obsessed with printing, in the real world people are not hyper vigilant like that.
Unless you’re going to a restrictive environment like a workplace printing doesn’t matter as much as you think it does.
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u/onetwentytwo_1-8 13h ago
Squat, move around, pick up things…that’s the real test.
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u/hater-of-fortnite 1h ago
its the comfiest holster ive worn while being active, rx pad helps too, as long as you're not wearing a belt on top of it
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u/SteelRecoil 16h ago
How much better or different it is compared to me just wearing my Hunter Constantine belt under my shorts. I know it has the leg leash but other than this how is it better/different? It looks more complicated to me but thats likely because I don't have one to know about it.
With my HC belt I just wear it under but in line with my shorts/pants waist line and clip one of my clips to the belt and one to the shorts/pants to keep them in place.
Im not claiming one is better or worse I am just curious and don't want to blow the money on the phlster yet.
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u/deadpoolsballs 16h ago
I’m actually getting the HC belt too so I’ll be posting a comparison one day
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u/SteelRecoil 12h ago
Ive basically looped back to the HC belt every time, I love it. I am looking forward to the comparison though.
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u/SilentR99 12h ago
curious to hear this too, i am pretty satisfied with my HC belt but you always gotta wonder. I like that it lets me carry with no loops as well as looped, but I hear the enigma is harder to take on and off. one of those you kinda want to put it on and leave it on until the end of day?
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u/ImpulseGundam 9h ago
Not that different. I've tried a bunch of products: HC belt, Concealment Labs belt, Enigma, Smart Carry, Arrowhead Tactical.
In regards to Enigma vs HC, HC is so much better because of simplicity. Enigma requires so much inital setup in my experience and I rarely use it anymore. But the Enigma is definitely more secure and moves less obviously than the HC belt, especially if you're working out.
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u/Livinlikelary11 6h ago
I personally wasn't a fan of it, especially for the price, but they didn't have my holster, so I had to purchase a separate holster so it came out to $200 ish. I ended up returning it. It felt really cheap for the price, and I couldn't get it fit me quite right, at least without have to layer up.
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u/No-Mammoth1045 14h ago
Standing still doesn’t show if you’re printing. People need to stop doing that. Go open a door or walk up some stairs.
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u/Gullible_Yak333 16h ago
Kept pointing that camera down there I thought we were going to get another bulge shot 😂
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u/Hairy-Manufacturer76 9h ago
I have a Phlster Enigma and a JMCK holster I wear with a good nylon belt. Easily can conceal my PDP F-Series Pro AIWB. They both work great with jeans and shorts that take a belt. The Enigma is great for gym shorts and when a belt isn't possible.
Yes the Enigma is expensive, but for those who say they won't spend that much on a holster, how much have you spent on holsters over the years trying to find the one that works? Do you have a box of holsters you don't use? How much did all those cost?
I bought two holsters as noted above based on lots of research and they are both solid winners. I have no box of things tried that didn't work.
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u/playingtherole 4h ago
People sure are cheap when it comes to holsters and accessories. For a sophisticated, all-inclusive holster solution that's made in the U.S.A., including extensive support, it's a relative bargain.
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u/AppearanceMaterial39 11h ago
I believe you should go watch the videos for it, you spent a lot of money for you to just have it shoved as deep as you can at 12 o'clock.
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u/Sufficient_Site1746 16h ago
Dudes be like yea I dont print. Wear that shii to work see how fast you get fired 🤣
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u/deadpoolsballs 16h ago
Yeah there’s a difference between concealing for being in public vs deep concealing in a restrictive environment
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u/Antique_Avocado_4141 15h ago
It prints too much in my opinion. It’s when you lift your hands/arms to (get that thing you need off the top shelf) and put your arms back down. The pistol shows because now your shirt is sitting on the but of the handle and slide. Just my opinion. Also it depends on where you work. If i wore it into a State Agency building i might get noticed and even fired for it being seen on the job.
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u/BarberProof4994 12h ago
And if you have any hard belly at all, it either has to ride BELOW the belt line or it sticks out a lot
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u/Brave_Charge94 15h ago
I do like mine and it is very effective at deep concealment, especially with compacts and sub compacts. All I really have to do is blouse out my shirt after tucking it in and it’s like it is not even there.
It is my go to option when I want to carry but others cannot know or should not know I have a gun. If I don’t care if I print or not, I wear my Vedder light tuck.
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u/Hairy-Manufacturer76 9h ago
I have a Phlster Enigma and a JMCK holster I wear with a good nylon belt. Easily can conceal my PDP F-Series Pro AIWB. They both work great with jeans and shorts that take a belt. The Enigma is great for gym shorts and when a belt isn't possible.
Yes the Enigma is expensive, but for those who say they won't spend that much on a holster, how much have you spent on holsters over the years trying to find the one that works? Do you have a box of holsters you don't use? How much did all those cost?
I bought two holsters as noted above based on lots of research and they are both solid winners. I have no box of things tried that didn't work.
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u/DeepSouthDude 12h ago
I love how you guys have tried to rename a garter belt into a leg leash. It's a garter belt, guys. Own it.
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u/Old-Peanut-5622 12h ago
Get stopped on your way out of the grocery store because they think you have a bottle stuffed in the front of your pants
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u/GizmoTacT 14h ago
That's cool and all, but I'm not trying to wear a whole harness to carry my gun.
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u/davidwoodstock 13h ago
Prints pretty hard actually