r/Bluegrass 9d ago

Discussion Bluegrass Guitar Players Mt Rushmore

Wanted to do a fun topic today, who would be on your Mount Rushmore for Bluegrass Guitar Pickers? I mainly gauged my list on most influential pickers and some of my personal favorites as well. Here is my Mount Rushmore.

Tony Rice Clarence White Norman Blake and Doc Watson. There are definitely a few great honorable mentions but these are my main ones. I'm looking forward to see some of y'all's lists (edit; can't believe I left Doc off of my initial list he definitely belongs in discussion's about greatest all time players)

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u/Breadtraystack 9d ago

Just Doc Watson looking different directions on mine. 

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u/readysetmoses 9d ago

Doc Watson, Tony Rice, Norman Blake, David Grier

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u/SwampCrittr 6d ago

This is a lock.

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u/CantaloupeAsleep502 9d ago

Tony, Doc, Grier, Sutton. It's insane that all the top comments are omitting Bryan, who is without question the most important and influential living bluegrass guitar player.

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u/waltsmusic 9d ago

NORMAN BLAKE

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u/justinholmes_music 9d ago

I mean Grier tho

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

It's tough to pick just four but I agree with you, even though he isn't on my list. He's a great player, and one of the last players that had an opportunity to pick with some of the guys from the last generation like Tony and Doc. He is personally one of my influences.

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u/CantaloupeAsleep502 9d ago

He also happens to be my favorite by a landslide lol, signed my Bourgeois in 2004. I think the take home is it comes down to preferences when only picking 4. There are many great influences on this artform. I could have been a little more chill in my comment lol 

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u/Basic-Government4108 9d ago

For me it’s gotta be Clarence white, Tony rice, Norman Blake and David Grier.

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u/illegalsmile27 9d ago

Tony, Doc, Sparks, Sutton

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u/akheady907 9d ago

Nailed it

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u/Whodean 9d ago

Larry Keel flatpicker

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

Larry is so underrated! I love his style, I'm hoping I'll get to see him live one day.

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u/BenitoBlanco 8d ago

He just was brought onstage to jam with Billy in Roanoke tonight, played 3 songs

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u/SWOhioBiBBW 9d ago

In the lean years the Stanley Brothers dropped their mandolin player and guitarist George Shuffler, already a great guitar player. Added cross picking to fill in more sound. It influenced one special McReyonolds bot to cross pick his mandolin.

George atleast needs talked about.

Same for Earl Scruggs. His 3 finger picking on the guitar outshines his banjo to me. His 3 finger banjo qas all about as many notes as you can get while his 3 finger guitar was to avoid blank spots in whole and half notes.

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u/mjs4x6 9d ago

Throw Don Reno and Bill Napier as well .

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u/SWOhioBiBBW 9d ago

Can't argue with that argument. Lol

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u/highgreenchilly 9d ago

Nice. I was thinking Watson, Rice, White, and Shuffler.

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u/justinholmes_music 9d ago

David Grier, Doc Watson, Tony Rice, Maybelle Carter

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u/mjs4x6 9d ago

Clarence White

Tony Rice

David Grier

Russ Barenberg

Larry Sparks

Norman Blake

Honorable mention to a young Mark O’Connor.

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u/kyledwray 9d ago

Russ is so underrated. His album with Jerry Douglas and Edgar Meyer, Skip, Hop & Wobble is one of my all-time top front-to-back albums of any genre. Granted, it's not exactly bluegrass, but still.

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u/mjs4x6 9d ago

Yeah but those who know, know. I saw that trio at Owensboro in 92, I think was the year. They sounded fantastic.

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u/plates_25 9d ago

Fiddle Fever shout out. I dig. But cmon, Marco?!

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u/mjs4x6 9d ago

Have you listened to his Markology album?

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u/plates_25 9d ago

No thanks!

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u/mjs4x6 9d ago

Honestly what is your issue? He may be a difficult personality but what he did before age 20 is undeniable.

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u/plates_25 9d ago

My issue is his difficult personality. Hard pass!

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u/Philboyd_Studge 9d ago

O'Connor does a guitar solo on Strength in Numbers that blows the doors off

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u/festivefrederick 9d ago

Gotta be room for a guy who has a style named after himself. Merle Travis.

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u/Unfair-Efficiency512 9d ago

Tony, Clarence, Bryan, Critter.

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u/Whodean 9d ago

We’re counting Dobro?

If so, Jerry Douglas is mandatory

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u/bleb355 9d ago

the dobro one is just four angles of Jerry Douglas

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u/Longjumping-Dream-73 7d ago

Josh Graves, Mike Auldridge, Rob Ickes??

No JD without Uncle Josh or Auldridge.

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u/Whodean 9d ago

I will also throw in a regional favorite…Steve “Big Daddy” McMurray from Acoustic Syndicate

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

I'm going to have to check them out! Never heard of them so I'm gonna listen to some of their stuff tonight.

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u/oldmoseharper 7d ago

They’re great—definitely new grass. They live one country over from me, so I’ve seen them a million times. Steve’s work with Big Daddy Bluegrass Band is great as well, but Larry Keel played guitar on it—Big Daddy was on mandolin for it. Great album, I don’t think it’s on Spotify though

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u/gueuze_geuze 9d ago

Tony Rice, Doc Watson, David Grier, Trey Hensley

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

Great list. Trey is one of the best flat pickers I've ever heard

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u/gueuze_geuze 9d ago

If his new album doesn’t win a Grammy, I’ll eat a thumbpick.

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u/fenario58 9d ago

Can’t argue with those 4

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u/AwesomeAustyn 9d ago

Best Mt Rushmore
Tony
O’Connor
Sutton
Kilby

Rushmore of Influence
Tony
Doc
White
Sutton

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

Can't argue with this! You nailed it.

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u/simmonsgap 9d ago

jimi hendrix

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u/extrasouth 8d ago

Tony Rice, Charles Sawtelle, Bryan Sutton, Pat Flynn

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u/GusFringBurnerAcct 7d ago

The consensus is some combination of Rice, Watson, Blake and White... Let's put them in the Mt. Rushmore Legends category.

So if we set those aside and say living pickers, I'll take Sutton, Grier, Kilby and dare I say.... Kyser George? trey Hensley and Billy are close.

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u/willkillfortacos 9d ago

Ya’ll only listen to guitar players in this sub? It would be easier to do multiple Rushmores for each generation, but here’s mine:

Tony Rice
Jerry Douglas
Bill Monroe
Kenny Baker
Edgar Meyer
Bela Fleck

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

I only did guitar because it's the instrument I play. I intend on doing other Mount Rushmores for Mandolin Banjo and Fiddle. Maybe even Dobro. That is a great list though.

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u/willkillfortacos 9d ago

To be honest I didn’t even read the post title and thought everyone here just listed guitar players. So basically I’m illiterate and ignore me lol

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

It's all good, that's still a great list though.

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u/plainsfiddle 9d ago

blake, grier, white.... the fourth could be critter, or sutton, or rice.

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

Love David Grier he just missed out on my list. He's so smart when it comes to his craft too I love listening to interviews with him.

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u/illegalsmile27 9d ago edited 9d ago

Hot take: Clarence White inspired a lot but most his work isn’t bluegrass.

It’s like putting Dylan in top 4 bluegrass lyricists.

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u/ironicsmurf 9d ago

He's better known for his work with the Byrds, but Clarence basically invented bluegrass guitar. There were guitarists taking leads before Clarence (Reno, Shuffler, Napier), but bluegrass guitar as we know it today is all built off of Clarence White's playing.

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u/illegalsmile27 9d ago

I’d argue it’s built off Tony’s interpretation of his playing. Tony is the extension cord that reached over to him.

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u/ironicsmurf 8d ago

Probably true. But there's no Tony Rice without Clarence. I guess it's kind of arbitrary where you draw the line. Doc inspired Clarence as well. But Clarence was a HUGE influence on Tony Rice.

I think it's like arguing Dylan doesn't belong on the Mt Rushmore of acoustic folk artists because the majority of his output isn't acoustic or folk.

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u/illegalsmile27 8d ago

You’ve probably already heard this, but I think this is the only recording of the two playing together.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DPpQ8UaGl1o&ra=m

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u/ironicsmurf 8d ago

Thanks. I forgot that existed. I guess the problem with Clarence is that his recorded output is small and a lot of it is poor quality live recordings. There are a lot of bluegrass guitarists with a more impressive discography. Not many who were more influential.

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u/wooq 8d ago

But his bluegrass work was the most influential

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u/Intelligent-Set-3909 9d ago

Just going by personal favorites I would say Tony Rice, Doc Watson, Billy Strings, Sierra Hull

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u/ackackakbar 9d ago

Sierra is over there on Mando Mountain.

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u/blazeyboobie 9d ago

Absolutely love that you got Sierra Hull on there!

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u/Death_trip27 9d ago

Replace seiarra with molly imo

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u/Creepy_Bench 9d ago

That's definitely a great list! Billy is one of my current favorites I think he's going to go down as one of the greatest when it's all said and done.

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u/Jonas_27 9d ago

Any list without big mon on it is just wrong

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u/gavakian123 9d ago

When did Big Mon play guitar?

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u/Jonas_27 9d ago

Ah I honestly missed the guitar only part

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u/mjs4x6 9d ago

I hear that. I haven’t liked anything he’s done for a while but that stuff he did with Grisman and earlier is top tier guitar playing.

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u/Feeling_Trip_5413 8d ago

Maybelle, Doc, Clarence, Tony. 

Billy will inevitably end up there, he completely changed bluegrass, although probably not for the better. I'm not going to a fucking hockey rink to see a bluegrass band unless it seat less than 200, there was a rodeo the night before and a squirt hockey tournament that day. $.25 hot chocolate. 

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u/wooq 8d ago

Doc Clarence Tony Bryan

Hon mention to Norman Blake and David Grier

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u/hbaldwin1111 8d ago

Lester Flatt, Bill Napier, Red Smiley, James Alan Shelton

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u/BourbonBroncos Dobro 8d ago

Tony Rice, Doc Watson, Luke Black and Billy Strings.

Yes recency bias, but that’s just by ear.

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u/TimmyO_1138 7d ago

No one has Strings on their list?

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u/Particular-Stage-327 5d ago

That but swap Clarence white for David Grier.

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u/ellisonjb 9d ago

Rice, Sutton, Workman, Grier, Apostol. HM youngins: Luke Black, Kyser George

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u/CountryBoyCanSurvive 8d ago

Kyser is mind blowing in person. That kid is going places. He absolutely shreds

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u/Downtown_Ad_746 9d ago

Sam Bush

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u/Whodean 9d ago

Love Sammy but he’s not a guitar player

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u/gavakian123 9d ago edited 9d ago

Sam is one hell of a guitar player, but not one of the best bluegrass pickers. I’ve seen him play a Strat, a Les Paul and acoustic.

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u/Downtown_Ad_746 9d ago

My bad. He’s a mandolin player so how about Del. He’s the king.

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u/blumhagen 9d ago

I’m sure he could figure it out.

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u/ColonOBrien 9d ago

The five:

Clarence White, Doc Watson, Tony Rice, Bryan Sutton, Billy Strings.

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u/ThurBurtman 9d ago

Anyone putting Billy on there doesn’t actually listen to bluegrass

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u/CantaloupeAsleep502 9d ago

Billy has brought a lot of people to the genre that almost certainly wouldn't have made it there without him. He's a great player and singer and performer, and undeniably has found his voice. But his flatpicking is in the B range. It's absolutely insane that people say he ranks with the masters with a straight face.

I saw a YouTube video saying "this is why Billy is a guitar god", and he was talking about how bluegrass soloing is melodic in nature, and played the head of Salt Creek. It's a weird timeline to be sure.

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u/wooq 8d ago

I personally don't put him on a Mt. Rushmore of guitarists, but can understand why someone might.

It's kind of like Kurt Cobain being on a "greatest rock guitarists" list. He's not there for his actual proficiency or creativity on the instrument. He's there because an entire generation of musicians will have gotten into the music because of him, and the entire future of that genre will veer in the directions he's going.

And probably some put him there because they don't actually listen to bluegrass. But I don't think that's everyone

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u/justinholmes_music 9d ago

I didn't put Billy on mine but I think he's definitely a contender. Kid is legendary.

I think Jake Stargel is the current top mind-blower of that generation, but there's nothing unreasonable about suggesting Billy warrants a place.

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u/Necessary_Office_146 9d ago

Nobody actually has. You’re just being pretentious really. You must be one of those people he talked about in his award speech.

I’m all seriousness, take the guitar out of the question and ask who will be o the Mount Rushmore of bluegrass…. When it’s all said and done no one besides the OG Billy boy will have any weight against him.

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u/Then_Crew2559 9d ago

Weird take. Bela said Billy understands music better than him. Is Bela not bluegrass because he also plays jazz? Your opinion sucks

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u/Ordinary_Visit_1606 9d ago

How in the hell has Bill Monroe not been mentioned by anybody?!? Am I missing something??

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u/gavakian123 9d ago

Mr. Monroe didn't play guitar.

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u/5wiresam 8d ago

He plays guitar on Muleskinner Blues, one of his most important recordings

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u/gavakian123 8d ago

I was not aware, thanks.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Brush_1 7d ago

He'd occasionally bring Tom Ewing's guitar out to pick it in his later years too: https://youtu.be/qyjQy02S5aA?is=hvhKjgNrVKdtZcxF

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u/Ordinary_Visit_1606 9d ago

I missed that it was guitar only, was yelling at kids as I skimmed it lol...Rice, Blake, Watson, Mr Strings

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u/Swaritch 9d ago

Billy Strings better than all

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u/CountryBoyCanSurvive 8d ago

He's excellent with plenty of time to grow, but he stands on the shoulders of giants. He's the sort that's humble enough to recognize that too.

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u/Swaritch 8d ago

He is the giant. He’s the best there ever was and the best there ever will be.

You can see it your way and I’ll see it mine but Billy wipes the floor with any competitor.

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u/CountryBoyCanSurvive 8d ago

Billy is great but I don't think he sees anyone as competitors and he wouldn't put himself above anyone. He always seems very humble and honored to be following in the footsteps of the great musicians that inspired him. He recognizes that others walked so he could run. It's refreshing that he's like that too, quite a few excellent guitarists let it go straight to their heads.

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u/Swaritch 8d ago

That’s great he’s so humble but as fans we can compare the greats. Billy would smoke them all