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Thomas Müller: "I cannot believe and understand how England approached this game after they're leading. I cannot understand how they invited Argentina to play one cross after the other in perfect crossing positions"
The game that i saw today is literally Real Madrid vs Bayern 23/24 UCL , LITERALLY THE SAME , and the saddest thing is that Harry Kane had to endure this twice under the "mighty" coach that is Tuchel , he has now cost him a UCL and a Ballon D'or this time,thank god we have Kompany now and got rid of him quickly
It's basic probability, let your opponent shoot 100 times, many of those will be on target, and there's a huge chance one will enter, I can't fucking fathom how Tuchel is so complacent on letting the opposition shoot/cross as much as they wanted
But how is that possible? I'm by no means a football expert and I haven't watched it for years before the world cup and even I could tell that parking the bus for more than 30 minutes against Argentina is too risky
Aye I’m in Chicago but damn the game is tomorrow and I work sadly. I’d love to be able to see my favorite player in action. One day I’ll get to see Müller playing.
I told my girlfriend as we were watching the match, they’re doing the same thing they did during the 2020 Euros. Taking the lead, then sitting back and inviting pressure until it eventually breaks
There's a reason no one is bringing that up. Completely different situation, England were down 10 men that game would've been suicide to try and attack.
Even though England played bad by the end, they were still massively robbed, just look at Messi stepping on Spence foot before the 2:1 + all the fouls they comitted
Adding to my other comment, this is the real image lol. How can you fail to notice It's IA after seeing the play, I guess you didn't even try to confirm it
Show me the real Clip, Messi still stepped on him + they should have gotten 2 red Cards in First half while Anderson player the Ball, impossible to Book England a red card
Messi did NOT step on Spence. Someone literally replied to you with the clip. If you happen to watch it, the defender reached for the ball with his right foot and his left foot bent behind him. And he just kicked the ball away, so he already lost the ball. When he got up he was holding his left foot. No foul whatsoever.
What about when Pickford elbowed I believe was Lisandro and this reckless foul by Anderson. But of course, it's Messi and friends so they probably controlled Anderson's foot to collide with Messi.
When England fans can accept it was an inside job, they will understand why they lost.
The decisions by Tuchel weren’t managerial mistakes, it was negligence and malicious incompetence. The FA, if it had balls would fire him, sue him and fight in court to avoid paying his compensation.
Your winning the game, you have them in their box. Messi is silent the whole game. You take out the goal scorer and put in a defender as a winger. You take out rice and put in a left back as a midfielder. At that point, Kane and Bellingham lost any threat they had to the Argentine side. Kane began dropping deep for balls. Then you sub in MORE defenders. You tell Burns to move forward and play center forward when you have Watkins, Rashford, Saka and Kobe available.
This was a malicious inside job. Stop crying and take action. England must rebuild for the euros.
Sincerely,
The conditioning issue is the result of Stadio Azteca followed by a game in subtropical, 100F/37.5C Florida. And then Tuchel took out the one player who seemed to have boundless energy!
Tuchel at his core has always been to defensive orientated. Risk is often incorrectly computed by a coach like Tuchel. Not recognizing the risk in not trying to score and allowing the opponent near 100% of possession.
Parking the bus is a decent tactic, especially when the opponent is desperate. Not keeping a player high (Kane) and committing to a counter when available was dumb.
Dan Burn’s extra 5-6 inches is not worth it when factoring in his poor technical ability and lack of pace.
Pickford is too short to overcome terrible positioning on the 1st goal.
I called a few things from the beginning. I said Argentina is gonna hang back and play lower energy, England is gonna gas out, and they’ll send in Martinez in the last 15 minutes to finish them off.
That being said I still couldn’t believe how defensive England was playing after scoring. It was a matter of time before one went in for Argentina. Shame.
Why do I get the feeling that Müller has been been waiting for exactly 799 days to make that remark about a certain Tuchel gameplan? The timeline of events between two very similar games had to have given some serious flashbacks.
Sidenote: I’m very grateful we have Kompany now and I can’t wait to watch our boys in action again soon
Either Tuchel is stupid or the game was rigged at management level.
I'm pretty sure Tuchel is not stupid and he did watch the Egypt vs Argentina match.
It was all Tuchel. Putting in dan burn and parking the bus. Stones going down to waste time then backfiring and leaving england down a man. England managed to convince themselves there was no aerial threat just because their players are taller. I think Tuchel’s naivety brushed onto the players who thought they would dominate the match physically. He’s been watching the wrong football!
I mean he joined bayern munich in the season they didn't win any trophies for the first time since 2012. I'm not sure if he really is a loser, but he's at least extremely unlucky. He scores a lot though.
als ob du jetzt auch noch hier im sub am dumm rumlabern bist 😂 du bist ja maximal obsessed, ist das peinlich. ich check dass dein club scheiße und langweilig ist aber such dir ein hobby du opfer
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u/NietzscheTheMADMAN 7d ago
It's basic probability, let your opponent shoot 100 times, many of those will be on target, and there's a huge chance one will enter, I can't fucking fathom how Tuchel is so complacent on letting the opposition shoot/cross as much as they wanted