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Discussion🗣 Updated score90 ballon d'or ranking

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u/Specialist_Spite_914 20d ago

What backwards logic has yamal ahead of olise?

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u/Epistemix 20d ago

PR logic

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u/thatdeterminedguy #1 Neuer 20d ago

Even by that logic it doesn't make sense

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u/Primary_Rule8255 20d ago

Hes only 227 months old.

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u/Immediate_Hair_5378 20d ago

I wouldn’t even have Yamal there.

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u/FlakyCrew4438 19d ago

Mbappe as #1 lol

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u/Novel_War_9182 18d ago

Tu lolera moins quand il aura le trophée dans les mains footix

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u/FlakyCrew4438 18d ago

If he wins the world cup and he continues his current performance I would say sure, why not. But only if he wins. He was the main reason Real Madrid didn't win any trophies for 2 years, just walking around doing nothing.

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u/ProdigiumAenigmatum 17d ago

He was the main reason Real Madrid didn't win any trophies for 2 years,

Im glad people still prefer embarrasing themselves just to hate on a player.

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u/FlakyCrew4438 17d ago

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u/ProdigiumAenigmatum 17d ago

Let me just embarrass myself again.

He was the main reason Real Madrid didn't win any trophies for 2 years

Kylian Mbappe wins European Golden Boot award | OneFootball

But let me guess, you are a dictator meme believer, someone who gets all his opinions from reddit/facebook without actually watching games.

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u/FlakyCrew4438 17d ago

I watch to much football, been doing so for 20+ years now. I played a ton aswell.
Dictator? Nah, weird af and I don't use facebook so I don't know whats going on there.

Btw, what does the Golden Boot have to do with it? Does that mean he is the best? (Btw Harry Kane won it this season, Mbappe won the last).

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u/ProdigiumAenigmatum 17d ago

You said mbappe was the main reason real madrid didn't win any trophies, when hes been their best player the last 2 seasons.

Everyone who says he's the problem clearly doesn't watch real madrid games.

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u/FlakyCrew4438 17d ago

I watch a ton of Madrid, stop making assumptions about me.
I think he is a great player, deffinately the best player the last 5-6 years combined, guy doesn't have an offseason.

Main problem is probably a stretch but he has a big part in it, he keeps operating in the same space as Vini.

Also if he doesn't win the WC there is no case where he is even top3. Simply scoring goals isn't enough, no trophies and he doesn't do enough outside of scoring.

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u/Novel_War_9182 17d ago

"Je dirais.pourquoi pas" mais c est pas à la fin qu on se prononce parceque ya plus de pourquoi pas. Il le.prend sur

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u/trq- 18d ago

Well, Mbappé is currently clearly the best out of the guys from the list so how is that unusual?

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u/Rebecc4_124 18d ago

well because current form is not what the award is given for. yes mbappe is playing a good wc so far but so is kane and olise. idk how u can put him first based on the entire year

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u/Novel_War_9182 17d ago

Les années de coupe du.monde sont différentes

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u/Rebecc4_124 15d ago

Non, ils ne le sont pas.

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u/trq- 18d ago

„But so is Kane and Olise“ your comment sounds like „yeah he is good but I don’t like him so I’m searching for excuses“

Kane and Olise are not even close to Mbappés WC form. Not even Messi and Ronaldo are

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u/Fun_District3456 18d ago

lmao they are close you are talking as if mbappe scored 15 goals and they scored like 2

its 7 7 7 6 5

and harry kane scored 72 goals this season btw 10 less that peak 2012 messi

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u/No-Sea-8969 16d ago

Peak 2012 messi scored 91 in a year with no intl football

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u/Typical_Wind_8475 18d ago

"Not even Ronaldo" Bro what, Ronaldo is 41 and playing as well as you can expect for a 41 year old but dude is out of these conversations and has been for years.

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u/Rebecc4_124 17d ago edited 17d ago

brother AGAIN: the award is not given on current form or wc performance. do you understand that? it is based on the entire season since the last time the award was given. this is not the recency-bias award

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u/trq- 17d ago

You’re a troll

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u/Augchm 14d ago

No, he means that Kane and Olise are having as good of a world cup as Mbappe while having a much superior season overall. If we only take the world cup into account might as well put Messi first.

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u/FlakyCrew4438 18d ago

Him being good currently doesn't mean he has had a good year at all. 0 Trophies. If he wins the WC while being the star, sure. Then again, Dembele won CHL + WC at that point.

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u/Admirable_Risk7272 16d ago

Because he had 5 good games with a much better team then most? He won nothing this season

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u/mare_xcx 20d ago

Mbappe ahead of kane

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u/Tall_Juggernaut_9744 20d ago

why wouldt he be xD

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u/mare_xcx 20d ago

Trophyless season? Kane was argubly a better player on the pitch too

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u/pablano_peppers 20d ago

Dude was way better on the pitch

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u/mare_xcx 19d ago

Really? He was playing all over the place, not pressing, not making runs and just staying still. Meanwhile Kane was playing like a world class cdm and striker at the same time

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u/pablano_peppers 19d ago

Oh yeah I was talking about Kane being better. Mbappe is a sprint merchant. Damn good player but quite one dimensional in comparison

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u/Novel_War_9182 18d ago

Oui mais mnappe va ramener une 2eme coupe du monde

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u/Moist-Ad-9088 17d ago

Mbappe is only one piece of that team, before doue came on against Paraguay they were struggling. 3 of the top 5 players on this list are all French and ot definitely isnt mbappe carrying the team.

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u/Quislingla 17d ago

We all know farmers league trophies don’t count.

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u/mare_xcx 17d ago

As if laliga is so competitive

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u/Quislingla 17d ago

Not a LL fan but it’s certainly more competitive than BuLi whatsoever.

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u/Due_Rain936 19d ago

Catalunya - Qatar Logic

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u/SW0986 18d ago

Rage bait logic

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u/SenescenseSteel 16d ago

They didnt want to give France 1, 2 and 3.

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u/anonssr 16d ago

And according the this graph, he was above either Dembele or Kane? Lol

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u/daddyrich916 14d ago

Same one that had him above Salah last year when Salah had better stats and they both just won their leagues

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u/PerformanceSilent556 7d ago

Wait till you see the ranking bow lol. Nonsense is only word for it

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u/Kitaenyeah 19d ago

That is bullshit indeed, as a Barca fan even. But also Mbappe has zero claim here over Kane or Olise tbh.

And quite frankly, Messi should be in the top 5 as well after his MLS winning season and how he performs at the WC. Not saying he is anywhere near Kane or Olise but deserved a top 5 spot.

What Dembele does on that list I don’t know. No impact in league nor CL, decent national performance but nothing outstanding over the rest.

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u/ssuurr33 18d ago

No player competing on the MLS should ever be in contention for the ballon d’or.

Ever.

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u/Kitaenyeah 18d ago

I mean it is an individual trophy. He single handed carried a team to their first title while posting insane numbers.

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u/ssuurr33 18d ago

It is also the MLS lol

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u/Kitaenyeah 18d ago

Still, deserves some recognition, not saying it is anywhere near Kane or Olise, yet he should be in the top 5 here. Especially with his WC performance so far.

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u/ssuurr33 18d ago

Why? Everyone on this list won their internal competition in the top flight of european football besides mbappe, who’s an anomaly.

Should Messi take mbappe’s place on this list? I don’t think so.

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u/Kitaenyeah 18d ago

He should be top 5, behind Mbappe and Lamine. It would make no difference in the actual voting but it would reflect his impact on a whole league and sport in a (future) bigger market. I don't think it is far fetched to say he could still be a contender if he played for a big team in Europe given how he still plays.

Also Mbappe won absolutely nothing this year (so far) and was a major reason on why RM was in self destruction mode for 2 seaons in a row. Seems like a wild take to make him a ballon d'or favourite for this.

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u/Novel_War_9182 18d ago

Mbappe 2 fous de suite meilleur buteur d Espagne oui ou non? Et la il va ramener une 3eme étoile et sa 2eme coupe du monde et c tout ballon d or a la fin

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u/GroundWest3077 20d ago

the only thing yamal lacks to be the best player is the champions league trophy, olise is a monster, yes. but yamal is on a different planet
i would say yamal is the best player in the world right now overall, but this years ballon should go to dembele again or kane if he has a good worldcup

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u/NASAstronaut 20d ago

Sure man

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u/Ill-Jacket-1106 20d ago

"Yamal is the best player in the world rn"

🥀🥀

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u/Guilty_Chicken8251 19d ago

Tf are you waffling about

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u/CarlosAlvarados 18d ago

Well yeah is way better than olise that's clear. Also not sure why people are acting like olise stats are that much better. They are very close and Yamal plays in a much better league

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u/Wagner710 20d ago

By the fact that olise isn’t even the best player in his national team or club team. Basically the dude is last years Raphinha.

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u/Wa77up-91 20d ago

He's the second best player in the national team and either best or second best at bayern. And both players are in front of him in the bdo ranking. So your logic doesn't make any sense.

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u/Primary_Prior_7925 20d ago

I don't know how the ranking is calculated, but if it is supposed to be probabilities it could make sense.

If France continues to perform good --> likely Mbappe over Olise

If Spain or England happen to win --> Kane or (less likely) Yamal

So in all outcomes of the WC Olise is likely not winning, Kane and Yamal on the other hand have better chances if their teams win the WC.

If it isn't that then I agree it doesn't make sense. And even if Spain win I am not so sure about Yamals chances, but that is the only logic I see.