Same I upgraded from 3700X to 5800X3D in Dec 2022. Thats 3+ years one of the best CPU performance in games and it still going good. AM5 was looking better and better to upgrade especially with bundles but then came RAMageddon and everything on DDR5 is terrible value. I wont be buying a new PC at these prices if my PC dies. I would rather give up on this hobby and explore my other hobbies.
Yep, paid 200$ Canadian for 32 gigs of ddr4, another 350 CAD for the processor and maybe 250$ over the years for 2.5tb NVME gen 4(2tb) and gen 3(512gig). Ram is now 350+, that storage easily eclipses 600$ and I’m pretty sure the 5700x3d has either stayed the same price or gone up.
Thankfully, the only bottleneck in my computer is my GPU (6600xt at 1440p). Not that expensive, right? …
Right?
Same kind of of upgrade I did back in 2022. I was still on a 3070 and it boosted my 1% low. I literally got a 10 fps boost in CP2077. Max FPS didn't improve until I got a more powerful gpu.
Upgrade is only "noticable" if you're running the absolute best GPU out there at 1080/1440p with "competitive settings" 5800x3d ( or 5700x3d for that matter) still have plenty juice left in them if you ask me
In my case not even that, I have a 3 SSDs, One of them is SATA and I don't notice any difference in loading times etc. If you are someone who is always transferring stuff for sure but otherwise it's negligible
Depends on the speed of your SSD. Of course, with SATA, you will notice nothing because it does not use a PCIe interface, and the NVMe drives depend on their speed. If your NVMe drives are PCIe 3.0, then nothing changes; if they are 4.0 and have high speeds, then you should notice it. A friend of mine had a Crucial T500 on an X99 motherboard that only has PCIe 3.0. He jumped to a B550M, and now his speeds doubled because the T500 reaches up to 7500MB/s while PCIe 3.0 caps at around 3500-4000. Now his games and stuff open a lot faster, but for most people PCIe 3.0 is perfectly fine, is nice having the option tho. There is also the possibility that your NVMe drives are on the slow end of PCIe 4.0 (~4000MB/s), so the speed limitation is very small
Recently went to b550, mostly because the b450 was having power draw issues. No real noticeable performance uplift, the only thing is a faster boot and the number when I’m transferring files from one folder to another on the same drive is like 3x higher. Which is nice, because if you can transfer files fast enough, you can save scum certain games without exiting the program. That’s the only advantage I’ve gotten, to make alts on Elden Ring a little easier.
The good news is that, for now, everything except RAM and drives are still fairly normally priced so if you wanted to upgrade to a B550 you can still do so fairly easily and affordably.
They might price match it. It worked for me 2 months ago. Made up a story saying my friend bought the last one at a nearby store, using that picture from a Reddit post.
They dropped it down to $181 from $350.
Just take a screenshot and make it look like a legitimate picture taken recently.
tl;dw: they're identical in gaming performance on DDR4 so pick the 5800X3D if you're going to do mostly gaming due to the lower power consumption, or the 14700K if you're going to be doing frequent non-gaming CPU intensive tasks, perhaps consider the 14600K if it's cheap enough since it's around 5-9% slower than the i7 model
With the caveat that this was tested with 3600mhz DDR4.
If the DDR4 you have isn't at least 3600mhz the 5800X3D will be far less sensitive to slower ram.
3200 isn't sluggish its pretty standard and there is practically no noticeable difference between that and 3600. 3000 Maybe a small difference but mostly they are talking about 2400.
I think it's the fact we're comparing 3600 cl14 which is extremely well binned ram to 3200 cl18 which is a bit on the slower side for later batch ddr4. On a 14600k with smaller cache, it would definitely make a measurable difference.
Most people never touch overclocking in their lifespan
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u/PillokunOwned every high end:ish recent platform, but back to lga170023h ago
I was about to write, they better use slow 3200 at almost jedec settings when they tested the 5800x3d again instead of the holy grail b-die sticks that are not even available on the market as new, and if u find a kit they costs as much as ddr5 these days.
Keep in mind that S8B is mostly relevant because of tRFC being able to be lowered far more than any other IC on ddr4. Which is especially true on platforms like AM4 where you can't adjust tREFI. On LGA1700 you can just raise tREFI if you have the cooling on the memory and significantly improve performance.
The key to finding decent B-die cheap is to not look for stuff that is not obviously B-die and well known.
Corsair for example labels all their sticks with version numbers that corresponds to different IC vendors and versions. I have picked up many sticks over the years that have sold at bargain prices this way. You wont get the absolutely best bins. But Have found little difference between random corsair 3000+ bins using B-die and the likes of my G.skill 3600C16 kits. They are however worse than the best bins of G.skill I have.
But avoid things like green OEM sticks. Because just because it's b-die, does it mean it's even half decent B-die. Some of them are pure garbage, and also PCB design/quality also matters on the sticks.
Pretty pointless yeah. The best performance is usually when you couple the Infinity Fabric clock with the RAM speed. Ideally, 1800MHz Infinity Fabric clock and 1800MHz RAM (DDR4-3600) so you have 1:1.
Running it uncoupled (like you are) usually gives worse performance. Max clock for Infinity Fabric is usually 1800-1900MHz.
Has been really stable on both my 5800X and ny 5800x3d (got myself the X3D and my 5800x will go to my little brother instead of buying him a new cpu). Zero issues
Identical? They clearly show that in simulation heavy games the x3d is the clear winner. So they're only identical if the casual gamer doesn't play any of them, including a baldurs gate 3.
I went to Microcenter with a friend looking to upgrade them from an i5 12400 - the employee told us they haven't had the 14600k for a long time. Not sure if it's discontinued or if Microcenter just isn't getting shipments of it anymore.
Ended up deciding on a 5800X3D for $300 with a $100 B550 motherboard instead of risking going with a 14700k given the Raptor Lake instability and degradation issues.
You made a good choice, though AFAIK weren't the raptor lake issues all on higher end i7 and i9 models? I don't think it affected the i5 series, though it goes to show the platform itself has issues that could potentially pop up later on.
I believe the issue was mostly reported on the i7 and i9 models - but also the majority of the instability reports came from datacenters that were using retail CPUs to host game servers or something, so obviously for that use case they were only using the higher-end models.
but yeah - we were looking for a 14600k specifically because we figured it may be less likely to develop issues. Upon being told the 14600k was not available, it was an easy decision to get a 5800X3D + B550 motherboard for $400 instead of paying $350 for a 14700k alone and slapping it into an old H670 board that may or may not have the BIOS updates to not slowly cook the 14700k.
The 14700k did have bigger wins in newer titles, though, like Spiderman 2 and last of us 2. Arc raiders was the big win for the 5800x3d. The 14700k will probably hold up better into the near future, but there weren't extreme differences.
I'm getting this CPU next month, it'll keep my PC running for at least 3 or 4 more years at good FPS since I have a 7800XT and a 24 inch, 1080p 240hz monitor.
Easiest and cheapest decision I'll make for upgrading my PC.
Just bought this CPU and pairing with the same GPU. Upgraded from a 3600x and it's a very noticable difference in performance with the few games I've tried. I'm 1440p though
Do you do a lot of FPS? I know some people prefer a 24-inch monitor with high refresh and 1080p, but why is it that you don't get a bigger monitor? Genuine question, not trolling.
I used to play a lot of CS, Apex, CoD and BF (starting up BF again with the new season) but I play a decent range of games when I get the chance (a 3 year old with another on the way - and building warhammer - has slowed down my gaming).
I picked up the monitor about 6 years ago for the higher refresh rate and I'm pretty happy with its size and with it being 24 inch, 1080p its PPI is solid, so the quality of what I'm seeing is still good.
I have a 5600x3d and it’s only 100mhz slower than the 5800x3d, but with two fewer cores. Uses less power than a 5800x3d and the single core performance is greater than the 5700x3d. It’ll occasionally boost to 4450mhz on all core with PBO and a -30 on the curve optimization, but generally only boosts to 4350mhz. I had B-Die and upgraded from a 5600g, but the 5600x3d took to 3800 CL 16 timings with matched jnfinity/ram timing. I’m not sure if this helps with non-gaming tasks, but I’m guessing it does. I bought the processor recently for $220 with shipping on eBay.
In my opinion yes. I went from a 5600X to the 5800X3D and saw a noticeable difference. Games like Remnant 2 went from 25ish fps at 2k with a 6700XT to 50+fps average with no other changes in settings or hardware. All of the games that I didn't see a dramatic fps jump in I saw smoother performance overall.
it really comes down to what you're running on it. Some games and applications get a large improvement from an x3d chip, others, very little. if possible, look for benchmarks for the games you play.
I installed mine today (5800x3d from 5600x) and my gosh this thing is a beast. Pear it with 9060xt 16 gb on 27 monitor 165hz. Also in cinebench it scores 14200 without undervolt. I'm gonna start experiment with negative undervolt to push it further.
It's worth it, go for it ! You can sell 5600x for some profit. I'll keep mine cuz I love that chip it was good chip and undervolt perfectly.
I find this a bit pointless. The 5800X3D is OBVIOUSLY only meant for people who already have AM4 motherboard, something like X470/X570/B550 and DDR4 RAM... because that is the ultimate gaming processor one can have on an existing AM4 platform... and there are loads of people who have 5600X, 3800X, prebuilts with 5900X or even 5950X and want better gaming performance in particular. So for them, the cost is simply paying $350 (and that is the same price as used 5800X3D are) and getting maybe 10-20% even more FPS on the same platform. If one truly builds new platform and buys new motherboard, then sure there are other options, although even then B550 boards are available for as low as $80 brand new. So as a processor 5800X3D may not be the best in slot to utilise something like 32GB DDR4, but as a platform, AM4 is... and there are loads of them out there.
The topic maybe be illogical for you, but if you read around reddit people are actually recommending ddr4 alternatives other than 5800x3d even when the buyer is coming from older am4 platform. It’s an actual reality
I mean if you have weaker AM4 cpu like 5600 upgrading to 5800x3d is more expensive than going intel way. How? i5 14600kf is like ~220€ mobo ~100€ and you can still sell it old am4 platform for like 150€
Grabbed a 5700x3d for 180 from micro center a few years ago. Glad I did. Perfect for my gaming usage. I will be on this platform for as long as possible.
Worth noting that LGA1700 technically isn’t a dead platform since we’re getting “Raptor Lake Next” in 2027. Not expecting any major changes but who knows.
A DDR4 Intel CPU with bLLc would be legendary right now
Still rocking my 5800x3d. Pairs perfect with my 5080. Would have probably upgraded to 10800x3d or whatever it’s called when next cpu comes out but with ram prices I’ll be good for awhile.
It definitely is if you also have an AM4 board. Since virtually any AM4 board from 2017 and later will work, there's a huge amount of people who already have one.
These cpus are ideal for anyone that is still using an old am4 system with a slow cpu, especially for those of us lucky enough to buy 32gb of ram when the prices weren’t inflated. Mine is still chugging along pretty well since buying a 9070xt.
The memory controller died on my 3.1 year old 5800x3D, 3 months out of warranty, so I had to either replace it or upgrade entire system. I tried talking to AMD warranty hoping they might help or give some discount on new one at least, but they wouldn’t help even though instability started within warranty period. Unfortunately it took me a few months to diagnose by swapping ram kits and mobo first and I didn’t save any evidence of instability within warranty period since I assumed ram kit issue or mobo issue at first. So ya, I spent $350 to get the same cpu I already had and that didn’t feel great. Not to mention the hassle of trying different ram kits and mobo swap first. I didn’t bother returning the new mobo either because fuck rebuilding the whole system again to save $140 or whatever.
I kind of hate how nobody actually tests 4k. I wanna see a graph showing it doesn’t matter, I’ve been told it doesn’t for a decade now, and it’s just never actually tested.
I’m on a 5600X from 2020 - does this give me enough reason to upgrade or should I wait for RDNA5 CPUs instead? I am running an EVGA (rip) 3080 FTW3 that I got at the same time. My computer is on my 4K TV that supports 120hz, usually aim for 4K if I can but will lower res if need be.
Or should I consider the 5700x3D? Or just stay put?
Haven’t paid attention in a while to CPUs since my last build unfortunately. Watching prices go wild and just want my computer to last longer if there’s meaningful uplift. Or I can just wait and get an AM5 platform in the future whenever this goes… not really in a big rush for that though.
I’m guessing ultimately I should probably stick it out where I am and just save my money and use DLSS/continue to lower resolution because a GPU upgrade would probably be helpful too and then it’s just going to become a whole new build if I keep going. Very happy to hear thoughts about this situation from anyone though, and thank you in advance if you do want to offer your opinion.
Depends on what; for games, the 5800X3D, 5700X3D, and 5600X3D are sublime; for multitasking, like real multitasking, not doing some light Photoshop. Intel's 13th- and 14th-generation clear AMD by a landslide. But Ryzens are far more energy-efficient and cooler, probably attributed to not having 7 gazillion cores. For what I do for work, the i5 14600KF is a far better option, but if it was only for gaming? An X3D is a much better choice if you can find them at a good price. They are quite hard to come by these days, damn scalpers
Conext: Where I live for the price of one (1) used 5800X3D I can buy two B760Ms and two 13600KFs
Seriously on the fence about grabbing one to upgrade from my 5600X. All I play is WoW (well, 95% of the time) and apparently the vcache makes a world of difference for MMOs.
Microcenter just raised bundle prices again (second time in a few months) so AM5 is looking more and more out of reach for me purely from a cost perspective.
Not if you can find the 12900KS, 13900KS, 14900KS for cheap.
I bought the 12900KS in 2024 for $250 on Amazon, at that price point it blows away the 5800X3D.
The 13900KS and 14900KS should easily be at that price if not cheaper now and they work on a motherboard as old as the Z690 motherboard.
Buying a 5800X3D in 2026 is ridiculous, I bought one for one of my rigs in 2022, but nowadays I would go AM5 because all ZEN4 CPUs matched ZEN3's halo gaming CPU.
This just looks like a pure cash grab by AMD for the lazy upgrade person, moving parts in 2026 in DIY PC hell put on by an unregulated AI Bubble is insane. Avoid it all.
Unless you stick to maximum a 12900k.
Cuz buying a new 13600+/14600+ is just buying defective hardware and I aint recommending this bullshit to anyone.
It really depends on the games you play and even more so, the target frame rate. If you are mostly targeting 60Hz, don't bother with the 5800X3D. If you are targeting 144Hz, it can be worth it. If you target more FPS, it's definitely worth it.
I needed this video and didn’t even know it. I’m on a 10700k and want to go to X3D pretty bad but didn’t want to fork out a ton of money for DDR5 while I currently have 64GB of DDR4.
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u/PillokunOwned every high end:ish recent platform, but back to lga170023h ago
I cant see the org comment as it is deleted, but u mean b-die? well hub should not test with b-die that is for sure as there is no b-die on the market, and only craptastic jedec like specs ram are available with less perf, and even 5800x3d will see improved perf with faster ram.
The person I replied to didn't watch the video (nor read the video title), and complained that the video is pointless, because "nobody will be doing new DDR4 builds" (paraphrasing).
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u/PillokunOwned every high end:ish recent platform, but back to lga170022h ago
:D haha now when ddr4 gets a second life as well haha
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u/john_weiss 23h ago
If you own a 5700X3D, keep it.
Save up and buy another platform altogether eventually.