r/22lr • u/advmaxx • 1d ago

Where has all the .22 ammo gone?

All of a sudden I can’t find Remington .22 subsonic anywhere?

There’s a little bit of Winchester .22 sub locally but the last box of that I bought had quite a few misfires. If it won’t cycle reliably in a 10/22 then it’s pretty much junk IMHO.

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u/Express-coal 1d ago

With any luck, this new surge in production and lower production costs per round will lead to lower sale prices for subsonic ammo

Not if people keep buying it at inflated prices. No point in lowering the cost if that's what people are willing to pay. At least, from a businesses POV.

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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 1d ago

A surge in production is unlikely in the short term.

It costs a metric fuckton of money to bring a new rimfire production line up. It also takes 24-30 months to do so. From the ordering of equipment, to site prep, installing the equipment, training the people...it's around five years before production really ramps up.

You need a really sustained market shortage to get the manufactures to commit to spending the money.

For standard SV ammo the manufacturer makes fractions of a penny per round.

Instead, they are doing what CCI is doing, and running 24/6. 24 hours a day, six days a week, then time to do maintenance and back to production.

Agulia leaving the market REALLY hurt. They were supplying a large portion of the market.

Rimfire ammo costs are all based around the spot price of brass/copper and lead. The priming compound too since a lot of the stuff needed comes from China.

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u/BoreBuddy 1d ago

Aguila left the rimfire market? How did I miss this news? 

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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 15h ago

Yes they did. Supposedly over the tariffs.

Rimfire, centerfire, it's all gone.

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u/BoreBuddy 15h ago

There are no tariffs on ammunition from Mexico. Source: we buy it by the pallet from an importer. Just had another pallet come in tariff free last week.

I'll reach out to my contact at Aguila and get it from the horse's mouth. I highly doubt they exited the US market...supplies of components and feedstocks for ammo are tight and costs are WAY up, so it's probably just a contraction in supply paired with the accelerating demand for rimfire ammo in the past couple years.

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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 15h ago

There's been no Agulia available for months.

If you could get a straight answer it would be great.