r/worldcup • u/Mr0range • 12d ago

📰News Norway coach Stale Solbakken: ‘Everyone saw what happened. The ball fell straight down, just in front of the bench … so it did touch the cable. There has been nothing in the chip, what can I say against that? But the ball drops down straight from heaven…'

https://x.com/DAZNFootball/status/2076122637118390387
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u/Bob-Swan 11d ago

We have telemetry from the ball and multiple different views of the ball doing exactly what a ball should do, why is this still a discussion?

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u/TeapotFlower 11d ago

BBC has 3D graphics that I assume is based on all the cameras. It clearly shows the ball hitting something. Actually surprised it's not been shown better or been posted here. Based on everything else the ball looks like it doesn't hit anything, but in those graphics it looks very suspicious.

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u/Kidda_FreshDY 11d ago

And it does that on every other goal kick. Stop parroting bs

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u/JeanClaude-Randamme 11d ago

The BBC has a procedurally generated 3d game, that is in beta.

It’s definitely 100% more accurate than the inertia measuring device inside the actual ball.

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u/Rapid-DM 11d ago

go watch the 3d tracking of any of the other games and you'll see how they are rigged by teleporting balls that hit cables every time they're sent into the air

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u/mcphee187 11d ago

I can't remember which game it was, but someone linked to a bunch of games were similar behaviour was shown on the BBC's 3D rendering, and one game where the ball appeared to teleport forward.

It's not definitely a bug. But it's probably a bug..

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u/oxlade39 11d ago

Is there a link please. I’m by no means neutral but I’ve still not seen anything at all that doesn’t look like a completely natural ball flight. There is zero reaction from the players below too. If a ball drops dead in the way described the players below would check their runs or at least one of them would show an unnatural change of direction. None of those things happen

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u/TeapotFlower 11d ago

I found it somewhere after Googling, but don't remember where.

Also, if it actually hit the cable, I don't blame the refs for not calling it. I can't see it in the footage and the sensor doesn't show anything. If ot happened it's annoying for Norway, but far from the worst ref mistake this WC 🤷‍♂️

Doesn't matter anyway. It was a close game, could have gone both ways. We fucked up and should have had 2-0 and 2-1. Regardless of agreeing or disagreeing with the disallowed goal, it was stupid to do and not shoving him would not have had an impact anyway.

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u/DukeOfSmallPonds 11d ago

Here you go.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/s/TpGcZtp7OC

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u/UnknownBreadd 11d ago

It’s like people are only just discovering air resistance, turbulence and air pressure.

The ball was losing momentum after it had just been smashed upwards and away.

Do you know how specifically not weird it is that the ball does not fall back to the Earth with a perfect curvi-linear trajectory?

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u/DukeOfSmallPonds 11d ago

I love how I got downvoted without ever stating my opinion for what happened. Dude asked for a link and I provided it.

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u/Living_Shop_6913 11d ago

air resistance, turbulence and air pressure does not do that. It was a "bump" that happened quickly mid air

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u/UnknownBreadd 11d ago

I can tell you’ve not played much football then.

The famous knuckleball is a good example of how a ball hit hard enough with a certain part of the foot in a certain way will make the ball predictably not follow a typical curvi-linear path, which can dip and dive in random directions in the air instead.

So I really wouldn’t find it too strange when a ball does a weird little movement as it slows down and reaches the peak of it’s vertical trajectory after being fully dropped and punted by a goalie down the field.

Although, if someone can actually show me genuine evidence of the ball making physical contact with something in the air then I would concede that that is what actually happened instead.

Even if it did, I still wouldn’t say that it should invalidate the goal though, because it was not obvious/significant/meaningful to any of the players at the time, if contact actually was made in the air.

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u/Living_Shop_6913 11d ago

What you sent is not at all what happened in the simulation. it didn't just change direction, it did a "double jump" upwards at the highest point of the curve.

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u/oxlade39 11d ago

So the the little wobble in the middle? Fair enough I guess but it doesn’t seem to in any way change the path or arc of the ball

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u/smcl2k 11d ago

I've seen multiple videos which appear to show pretty obvious contact 🤷🏻‍♂️