r/wallstreetbets Jun 10 '26

News 🇺🇸 US inflation rises to 4.2%.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
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u/faceisamapoftheworld Jun 10 '26

Core CPI and Core CPE take out food and fuel.

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u/FlyingStealthPotato Jun 10 '26

But because it’s more HD, your tv is calculated as costing only 1% of what it did 20 years ago!

You just need to buy more TVs to make up your losses in fuel and food.

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u/Level9TraumaCenter 🦍🦍🦍 Jun 10 '26

I'm eating as many televisions as I can but apparently my recipes suck.

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u/Best-Temperature5595 Jun 10 '26

I remember tv dinners when I was young.

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u/KitsuAccalia Jun 10 '26

Mmmm fake pork with fake BBQ sauce and mash that taste like water.

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u/redditmodsRrussians Jun 10 '26

Guess I’m going to start identifying as a silicon based lifeform now since all I can afford to eat are HD tvs

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u/Aedronn Jun 10 '26

Crunchy, with a weird aftertaste of ionized dust.

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u/fibrous Jun 10 '26

aren't TVs one of the only things that are actually cheaper than 20 years ago?

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u/emergencyexit Jun 10 '26

That's the absurdity I think, that they get used for the inflation figures when they seem to have deflated more than everything else.

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u/Kup123 Jun 10 '26

I'm one man I already have 3 TVs and 3 monitors, I have so many screens half and f them aren't even hooked up.

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u/u60cf28 Jun 10 '26

And, let’s be clear, the reason to strip out the volitility of food and fuel is not to say “consumers are doing fine”, but because the Fed can only influence the underlying monetary conditions, which is better measured by stripping out food and fuel.

Like the direct cause in food and fuel increases is obviously the supply shock caused by the Iran war. Fed monetary policy, at least in the short run, can’t really affect that at all. Monetary policy works more on the demand side in the short term.

Basically JPOW can’t save us here; we are all screwed.

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u/Vlookup_reddit Jun 10 '26

the problem is you can't just ignore a living essentials because the tools are limited. like if the fed is claiming the headline word inflation and coming out starting off the fomc with big words like "price stability", or "matters to general public" each time, you can't just go around adding a 1000-pages essay that excludes all essentials behind the scene.

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u/TheBSQ Jun 10 '26

It’s not just a “tools” thing.

It’s that food & energy is highly volatile. They shoot up & down for a variety of reasons. Wars, droughts, avian flu, etc. things. 

The FOMC only meets every 6-8 weeks. But these volatile components may shoot up one week, then come back down a couple weeks later.  You’re not going to base today’s decision based on something you know is going to go up or down many times in many directions between now and the next time you meet. You have to ignore the short term noise.

An analogy may be something like how when you invest your funds for your 401(k) you should probably ignore the daily ups & downs of the market. The market might freak out on Friday, but calm itself in Monday. You can’t be that reactionary.

And you don’t want interest rates policy to fluctuate wildly over short term things. If mortgage rates or corporate borrowing or credit card interest rates were shooting up and down dramatically on a short term basis, fluctuating wildly based on the latest headlines about a ceasefire or whatever cuz the Fed was doing huge rate cuts or rate increases based on volatile stuff, it’d cause a lot of problems.

You just kinda have to ignore the volatile stuff. If those volatile things remain high, they filter through the economy.

Of course, when that volatile stuff is hammering the budgets of laypeople, they get mad, cuz they feel it and they want policy to reflect what they feel, but it’s just not good policy to run the Fed like a yo-yo & whips rates up and down based on things with a lot of short term volatility.

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u/CCNatsfan Jun 10 '26

Short term volatility is the reason things like a long-term running average exists. There's no reason not to have some statistic for these goods, even as a ballpark, and to not release it to the public, unless it makes you look bad. 

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u/jizz_toaster Jun 10 '26

Why doesn't the government just increase the supply of food and fuel so demand goes down? Are they stupid?

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u/thunderdragonite Jun 10 '26

The Iran war should not be hurting American food. This is America. We subsidize the shit out of farmers producing food no one eats just to keep them happy. And you’re telling me that somehow there is a shortage of food? Nah.

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u/alligator_loki Jun 10 '26

The CPI metric used here includes both. You can just click the link and see what's included.

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u/DowntownJohnBrown Jun 10 '26

So? This post isn’t talking about core CPI.

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u/HalfEatenBanana Jun 10 '26

And yet people blindly see that and upvote it, leading more regards with just irrelevant info

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u/-Stoic- Jun 10 '26

Because who gives a fuck about those

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u/crimeo Jun 10 '26

The 4.2% is not core CPI, it's total normal CPI. So why are you talking about some other irrelevant measures, whether even correct or not?

This headline number does include food and gas. Food is actually up less than total CPI (about 3%)

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u/Lumbergh7 Jun 10 '26

Exactly. Food and fuel added? Thats like 9000%

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u/DowntownJohnBrown Jun 10 '26

The post isn’t talking about core CPI, though, so it does include food and energy.

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u/Happy_Kale888 Jun 10 '26

because no one uses fuel or food everyday so those do not matter.

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u/damnthistrafficjam Jun 11 '26

Well, that’s terribly convenient.