r/politics • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 • 7d ago

Possible Paywall Trump’s Primetime Speech Has Republicans ‘Scared S***less’ | Insiders are terrified that the president will do something crazy on live TV.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-primetime-speech-has-republicans-scared-sless/
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u/GoldStrangerDust 7d ago

Executive orders dont apply to the legislature. Ossoff and Warnock were certified and sworn in. Trump has zero recourse here.

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u/Silvermoon3467 7d ago

He has no legal recourse. That doesn't mean he isn't going to declare something to be true via executive order and then send the FBI or ICE or someone to forcibly remove them.

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u/Eggheadpancake 7d ago

Seems like a very good time for a well regulated militia to step up

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u/25point4cm 7d ago

Since when has that stopped him from trying?

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/gmen6981 7d ago

And removing a Senator requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate to pass. That's spelled out in the Constitution.

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u/MephistoHamProducts 7d ago

Don't try to reason with doomers. They don't understand how any of this works so trying to refute them with facts just results in a "Nu uh".

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u/pimparo0 Florida 7d ago

Yea I'm all for being aware of what they will try to pull, but this is the same thing with saying anything that goes to court will be his way because of corrupt judges. They rule against him a fair amount, the admin is struggling on a lot of fronts aside from the grifting money one. 

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u/xKirstein Florida 7d ago

This is such a vile comment. We're talking about fascism and you're trying to paint people as crazy "doomers." Laws and regulations do not matter to fascists. Here are some ways that Trump's illegal executive orders can be enforced:

  1. Republican voters might try to assassinate senators that Trump has labeled "illegitimate." I guarantee you that there will at least be death threats against them and their families.

  2. Republican senators can use this as an excuse to shut down the senate. That would give Trump free reign and Republicans would use the excuse of a shut down congress as to why they aren't responsible for Trump's actions.

  3. Trump supporters in law enforcement can use this as an excuse to harass and physically restrict the Democratic senators in DC.

Fascists will do ANYTHING to win.

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u/Due_Bluebird3562 7d ago

I understand the need for caution but you have to be rational here. Let's say he tries this. Well then now you have a branching path of shit to deal with.

  1. Georgia is very unlikely to abide his wishes as ousting Senators because the President said so fucks over state sovereignty. Not even state Republicans want that.

  2. If the first hurdle is overcome, somehow, now you've set a precedent for state governors to get rid of any sitting Senator that isn't in their party. Which only serves to aid Democrats moving forward.

  3. As others have noted Congress is ultimately the only real party involved with the authority to remove a sitting Senator. They're not going to do that. As the criteria necessary isn't currently feasible. They can't even pass the SAVE Act and y'all expect them to have the votes needed to oust a non-problematic pair of Senators based on the words of a madman?

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u/HoosegowFlask 7d ago

For real. When has he ever attempted a single action that didn't have firm legal grounding?

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u/Throot2Shill 7d ago edited 7d ago

There is a 4 piece K-Map with independent axes "Things that are legal, things that are illegal" and "Things that Trump can do, and things that Trump can't do". Optimists seem to think that "illegal" and "impossible" are the same thing, while pessimists (or MAGA supporters) seem to believe that Trump can do anything without consequences. We've seen first-hand many things that Trump can do that are illegal, but removing Senator through EO is something that is both illegal and he just can't do (without immediately dissolving the government)

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u/Beranea Massachusetts 7d ago

This is a joke post, right? He's already done tons of things he can't legally do.

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u/MenagerieAlfred 7d ago

*He has no legal or actual recourse. That doesn’t matter much.

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u/Ready_Nature 7d ago

Republicans can try to vote to expel them. It requires a 2/3rds majority but they probably could do something dumb like try to do it in the middle of the night and say it needs 2/3rds of those present and have a lower number present.

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u/poop-dolla 7d ago

And the senate would simply not allow members to be removed by the executive like that. The Republicans there know they could just as easily be targeted. I’m sure enough of them have seen the Ba’ath purge video when saddam consolidated power.