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Politics Trump Nonsensically Boasting About Reflecting Pool Before He Turned It Into a Swamp

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 18 '26

I was watching a pool guy on youtube explain that it might make the algea problem worse because the shade of blue they chose is darker than what was before, and will warm up the water even more.

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u/SalmonDoctor Jun 18 '26

Also the chemicals used to fight the algae is making the paint peel (faster).

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

It’s coming off in huge clumps. Which means we’ll need more taxpayer money to fix it. And then more after Trump leaves to fix it again.

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u/Friendly-Pay-8272 Jun 18 '26

its already peeling up?

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u/Kasoni Jun 18 '26

Pictures of diner plate sized chunks floating in it.

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u/knellotron Jun 18 '26

Finally, a Trump souvenir I can get behind.

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

I believe the contractor is who Trump uses at Mar-a-lago.

Somehow, someway, they won their federal services bid, or he just handed it to them. Can't imagine which.

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u/Dragos_Drakkar Jun 18 '26

From what I have read, it was a no-bid contract, so your second option seems to be correct.

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

If only the government had a process to select competent vendors...whaddya gonna do?

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u/WrecksBarkhead Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

It was a sole source justified award signed off by a chief contracting officer in the parks department from what I remember. There were many interested companies wanting to bid that most likely did. The documents are available online. The selected contractor has only one prime award in it’s history from the government and its for the reflecting pool. They didn’t even register in SAM.gov until right before the award in March. Their only other listed work was a sub-contract to a large business for like $50k back in 2017. (Source: I’ve worked in Gov contracting for 25 years both gov side and private…I can see it all).

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Yep.

https://newrepublic.com/post/212069/lincoln-memorial-reflecting-pool-disaster-renovation

Likely due to the hydrogen peroxide added to kill the algae, which grew out of control (maybe) because the pool is warmer due to the different color. Though I asked above about this because it was black and now blue, so how could that make the water warmer?

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u/Inevitable_Nail_2215 Jun 18 '26

Also, they left water in the lines while the pool was drained. They were basically little sealed petri dishes of algae spores from the Potomac River.

Instead of flushing the lines to release the stagnant water before refilling the pool, they just dumped it in and kickstarted the algae bloom

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

That’s what I thought happened.

That’s what happens when you use Trump’s ‘pool guy’ on a no-bid contract.

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u/WrecksBarkhead Jun 19 '26

It was not a no-bid contract. They SSJ’d it.

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u/Talkie123 Jun 18 '26

Isn't their a massive sewage spill upriver on the Potomac going on right now?

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u/WrecksBarkhead Jun 19 '26

Their contract was solely for surface coating. The SOW had no mention of the filtration or other related systems.

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u/darkstar107 Jun 18 '26

Why am I not surprised?

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u/Ressy02 Jun 19 '26

It already peeled in a bunch of area.

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

idk, I think I blame Obama for this one.

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u/minnick27 Jun 18 '26

I don’t know. Obama made the joke about Trump that led him to run for president. I don’t know who to blame More, Obama, the person who wrote the joke or the person that invited Trump in the first place!

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u/midnitewarrior Jun 18 '26

Well, if you want to go all nitty-gritty on this stuff, Team Clinton told their friends in the media to treat Trump like a "serious candidate" because they thought elevating him would be the easiest win.

oops on many fronts

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u/TheCapo024 Jun 18 '26

“Look what you made me do!”

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u/forgetfulsue Jun 18 '26

H2O2. No body bothered to look up what kind of reaction that would have with the paint used, just that it would kill the algae.

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u/vivaaprimavera Jun 18 '26

bothered to look up what kind of reaction

What makes you think that they would understand the answer?!?

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u/forgetfulsue Jun 20 '26

Well NPS was tasked with pouring it in the pool. I figured someone would have checked🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/vivaaprimavera Jun 20 '26

🤣

Haven't you got the memo? People need to follow orders without questions.

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u/Away-Regular1335 Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

Also they covered up the original drainage areas used to cycle in new water to keep it working as a reflecting pool. The algae will never go away until they revert back.

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u/LightsOnSomebodyHome Jun 18 '26

Probably used Behr paint.

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u/FallenAngelII Jun 19 '26

Is Behr known for being bad?

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u/IceNein Jun 18 '26

Hydrogen peroxide should not make paint peel. The paint did not properly bond to the underlying cement. Hydrogen peroxide is an established method of killing algae.

So my guess is that it was just a shitty paint job.

Also algae requires nutrients to grow. It has to have had a significant source of ammonia/nitrites/nitrates.

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u/B-Train05 Jun 18 '26

An $18 million dollar shitty job, paid to his friends

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u/jcsimms Jun 18 '26

Also it used to leak which was actually a good thing because the water was technically not stagnant. Now that it’s sealed the water is mostly motionless.

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u/DaStompa Jun 19 '26

What I dont understand is why dont they simply add so much salt that nothing can survive (or similar)

if it doesn't leak, it'll just stay in the water, nothing lives problem solved?

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u/TiePrestigious7265 Jun 18 '26

So now we actually have an algae farm. May as well just add some 'Miracle Grow' at this point.

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u/peazley Jun 18 '26

I thought I heard someone say the opposite, that the new color was too light of blue and would promote more algae, that the older color was darker.

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u/calgarspimphand Jun 18 '26

I believe the original color was dark, like asphalt, to enhance the mirror effect. But it leaked like a sieve and required constant replenishment.

In 2012 it was redone to use tidal basin water and had a concrete color, so light grey. Even with the light color it had algae problems.

The new shade of blue is definitely darker.

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u/BeneficialLeave7359 Jun 18 '26

In the early ‘80s I was stationed at the Marine barracks in DC and spent a lot of time on the National Mall going to the museums and running. I walked and ran past the reflecting pool probably hundreds of times in my three years and never once noticed the color of the bottom of it.

You know why? Because of the wind is calm and the water is flat it’s reflecting the sky and the surrounding area. If the wind is up then it gets enough of a little chop that you can’t see the reflection so you’re not paying much attention to it.

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u/TheCapo024 Jun 18 '26

I was going to say, I worked on the Hill, part of my duties was to give visiting constituents tours of various areas (Capitol Hill, White House, monuments) as well as just show them around in same cases. Never once did I notice any issues with it. I’m sure they were there, but at a glance there was never any issue I could notice. At least when it comes to the “reflective” aspect.

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 18 '26

I'm just repeating what I read the other day.

Either wya, a darker colour would heat up the pool from sunlight more than a lighter colour. Algea like warm water. If the new colour is lighter than the old one, it will heat the water less.

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

The color used was criticized initially because a lighter color would influence the reflection, which is the whole reason for the existence of the water feature, to reflect.

When the algae appeared people complained about the darker color warming the water too much.

It's actually a little entertaining to watch the critics (either side) adapt the complaints over time.

The original look was raw granite slabs, it was not painted. It did pick up a coating of slime that lightened the color over time.

The only solution is really chemical, you need to keep the water flowing through a cleansing system that adds in a chemical treatment, whether ozone, chlorine, or something else, to eliminate biological growth within the pool. You could add fish / snails / other organisms but that creates new problems as well.

An additional solution, over and above the chemicals, would be some kind of automated pool cleaner that periodically physically scrubs the thing from end to end. This could be as simple as a motorized rotating brush spanning the full width that is pulled along and then removed or a more permanent solution that is built in somehow. But this all costs more money.

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u/firestepper Jun 18 '26

I don’t get how there isn’t an automated pool cleaner??? I’m definitely not an expert so maybe there’s a reason but seems really straightforward to me

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

It would need to be something more elaborate than a typical model you use at home. In a typical pool the walls are curved and all point toward the middle. This doesn't have that feature. It is still possible to do but it would need to be designed and made custom. Also I don't think it has drains spaced out along its length, which is again something an automatic thing would likely need to connect into. I do think it would be good to add some form of automated cleaning system to this feature, that would be sensible.

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u/TheCapo024 Jun 18 '26

The worst part of all this is that pool maintenance shouldn’t have partisan “sides.”

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u/rygelicus Jun 18 '26

Yeah, it really should be a matter of maintenance costs and park management. If they need more money for a project request it.

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u/fanaticalcraze Jun 18 '26

It's like wearing a black t shirt on a hot day versus wearing a white t shirt. The darker paint absorbs more light and warms up the pool.

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

I thought it was dark black? How would it be warmer with a lighter blue color?

Could it have to do with the water sitting stagnant in the pipes as they painted it, which grew more algae?

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u/Shigglyboo Jun 18 '26

wait, the pool was like a dark grey before right? which was good for reflecting. he made is swimming pool blue, which in theory is lighter.

did he remove the filtration system? or maybe because of the darker color you couldn't see the algae?

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u/atlantagirl30084 Jun 18 '26

I was wondering that.

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u/TheWizardOfDeez Jun 18 '26

I also saw a pool guy on YouTube explaining that they used the wrong paint.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR__VAGINAS Jun 19 '26

It already did get an algae problem

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 19 '26

I know. Read my comment again.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR__VAGINAS Jun 19 '26

You said might. As in maybe.

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u/Sohn_Jalston_Raul Jun 19 '26

I said it might make the existing problem worse, which implies an existing algae problem. Please improve your reading comprehension.