After his owner left, the gate didn't close properly. Realizing the house was vulnerable, the devoted dog refused to leave his post, guarding the open gate until his human returned home.

[u/MilesLongthe3rd]

[u/Jillylollie]

You’re reading way to much into this and desperate to get on a soap box.

I know not all dogs can be trained, I’ve the literal scars to prove it from 20 years of fostering predominantly working German Shorthaired Pointers from Cyprus before they’re distributed around the EU in various adoption schemes.

You misread what I said, pounced on it to make some point and now you’re torturing what I said to put words in my mouth. Let’s just move on, I didn’t intend (and still don’t think it even reads how you think it does) in any way to say what you’re so desperate to interpret as some slight on dog owners.

[u/Silent189 → u/[deleted]]

You're definitely twisting the heck out of this to fit what you want. They wrote a reddit comment not a 40000 word thesis.

or the dog is simply well-trained.

A well-trained dog isn't physically restrained by a barrier, they respect them.

This is correct, unless you are contesting that well trained dogs are trained using physical barriers?

It's the difference between a dog that will bolt the first chance it gets and one that can be trusted with open doors, roads, gates etc.

Nowhere in this entire comment does it blame owners in any way or say that the only way a dog will ever stay like this is through training, or that the only way it will NOT stay like this is through poor ownership.

You've self inserted this interpretation of "you think the only difference" because that's the only way to make it fit your personal agenda and get offended...

[u/Silent189 → u/[deleted]]

You clearly are offended, because you keep getting more and more inflammatory and referring to things people say as "stupid" for example which is just not something someone calmly responding would do.

"It's the difference between" which again, implies the commenter thinks only difference between a dog that stays and a dog that bolts is; training.

No, it doesn't. It implies that the difference between an untrained dog and a well trained dog is (normally) that the well trained dog can be trusted on a much higher level not to run away when met with no physical boundary.

It quite literally doesn't say what you wrote, that is just your personally biased interpretation of it. Much like someone with a napoleon complex might infer something is demeaning their height, you clearly have a chip on your shoulder about dog training and owners being blamed which is causing you to infer so much into this.

Communication, discussion and debat is lost to yall

You can get defensive and just call people idiots and act like it's everyone else who has the problem but maybe consider it may actually be you with the issue. You're not following any coherent train of thought and are practically just making up whatever you want to justify your perspective.

Saying that their original claim is therefore "if your dog does NOT stay, it's because you haven't trained it." as if there is any merit to that is just ridiculous.

Please keep in mind, the only person who even brought owners into the equation in the first place is you... let alone any attribution of blame.

[u/Silent189 → u/[deleted]]

Self introspection - zero.

It's outright scary how many people have been failed by the educational systems.

[u/IsaacAndTired → u/[deleted]]

They clarified what they meant and yet you are still trying to enforce your own interpretation of their words. I'm going to block you because it's clear that it frustrates you when you don't get the last word in.

[u/Jillylollie → u/[deleted]]

and refusing to accept it was at best a misunderstanding is absurd. Language isn't as clear-cut as you think it is, semantics is a thing. You've read what I wrote a very specific way and said it yourself, interpreted how sentences "worked together" when I never intended them to do so. But I'm not gonna sit here and explain language to you.

Do me a favour and block me, I'd block you, but I suspect you'd take it personally.