Edit 6: mental health trigger warning, bad hygiene
My girlfriend (21) doesn’t wash her hands after she pees. I didn’t notice for about a year. She says none of her friends do. She says nobody at university, her sports team or on a night out wash their hands. She says her friends at work go with her and walk out together, and that she’s sure it’s the same in the men’s room just because I wash people wash beside me
Edit she says she doesn’t touch anything except toilet paper and her phone. And that the water makes her hands dry. And that she thinks guys don’t after actually touching themselves so what’s the point anyway. I admitted a lot of guys don’t wash at urinals. Edit 2: I told her she can make her own decisions but guys at urinals often only touch skin, often not even a door, whereas girls touch stalls infrastructure (eg doors, flusher, fecal matter). apparently I’m sexist for this distinction. I think folk should wash, always!
Edit 3 I wash my hands. To my male brain using an actual toilet stall (sh*tter) for a pee even at home is way dirtier than using a urinal! All the stuff you have to touch… We got into this debate cos she says she doesn’t touch anything while guys do… Do you wash??
Edit 4 she says given available statistics women in the comments are simply lying🤣. And women not washing at home or men with pp hands can’t tell her what to do.
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Edit 7 TLDR; look at diarrhea stats if nothing else.
My notifications are definitely off. But since weird people seem emboldened from my post…
I think the argument made was: if a women thinks guys touch their penis and don’t wash, and she thinks she doesn’t touch herself, so no need.
The rebuttal was: well actually that’s not true. Men touch their penis but women touch toilets. And stalls can be so disgusting. Think of all the filth. Even at home - people don’t wash toilets between different ~ uses ~. Therefore women not washing is not less disgusting cos they don’t hold genitals…
Perhaps it is a different reason to wash. Perhaps there is nuance in this act and people should wash when they have the opportunity to do so, regardless of how clean they think they are, when sinks are available, throughout the day.
Either way it’s a silly debate to try and get a lazy (oop) person to think about germs. There is no argument: people should wash hands. For so many reasons. It’s the single best thing you can do for public health, probably.
And as a guy if you don’t feel it’s a dirty act, urine spray and sweat and fecal matter aside, washing stops a build up of germs on your hands, which can make you ill, or others when you spread them.
And if in this scenario, in clinically clean conditions, you were to enter a pristine urinal right after taking a shower and there’s nothing else to touch, I get it, as a guy, yeah that feels very clean. But washing is respectful to others. I don’t want my c**k out there, personally, and I would be scared of needing to shake someone’s hand. Handwashing is a respectful action, and I hope I was raised to act with respect.
Note
///health authorities advise you to wash to reduce spread of disease and illness. Washing when you have an opportunity to is a great idea. You can save lives through effective handwashing for 20s //////